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It's the Euros 2020! Finals Match Thread: It’s gone to Rome…

Winner Euros 2020

  • England

    Votes: 64 21.6%
  • Belgium

    Votes: 14 4.7%
  • France

    Votes: 98 33.1%
  • Germany

    Votes: 13 4.4%
  • Italy

    Votes: 81 27.4%
  • Portugal

    Votes: 13 4.4%
  • Netherlands

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 11 3.7%

  • Total voters
    296

LSUY

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Jul 12, 2005
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Hope the press ask Martinez why he didn't bring on Benteke and/or Batshuayi. Such a strange decision to stick with one striker when you need a goal.
 

Kingellesar

This is the way
May 2, 2005
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9,287
Italy losing Spinazzola is massive, he is key to how they play. They already lost Florenzi on the right side.

That Italy team will struggle against pace, so Sterling and Saka would be best agains them.
 

Romario

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Aug 3, 2019
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Other than the play acting , it was refreshing to watch this current Italian side play as compared to some of the Italian teams in the past, who’d score a goal and then close up shop.
It does sadden me when we resort to such tactics. Years ago we were renowned for doing it and now it seems to have crept back into our game. I hope Mancini tries to stop it.

Such a shame that instead of everybody talking about the quality of football we played the conversation is all about our time wasting and feigning injury.

Let's hope the Spain game has no such tactics from us. They will be a tough opponent and I can easily see it going to extra time.
 

TennesseeYid

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Aug 4, 2017
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Feel a bit bad for Belgium. De Bruyne not 100%. Hazard’s form has fell off a cliff. Even though a think Martinez is a poor coach, I thought the move to bring Chadli in at LWB was a good one, unfortunate that he went off injured 4 minutes later. The game may have been more interesting.

Being from the US, I think you guys are a little pessimistic on your England team (though they have gave you reason to be many times). Your team should be right in it in the final vs Spain or Italy. Everybody keeps talking about the Italians future, England’s squad looks way deeper imo. I wish Southgate would be more aggressive, but hard to criticize him when the team is yet to concede.

Go England Go
 

Locotoro

Prince of Zamunda
Sep 2, 2004
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14,237
Belgium flatter to deceive at a tournament again, has their ‘golden generation’ been more or less than disappointing than England’s 2000’s?
I would say more disappointing. That England golden generation had a really good team but the best players were all in the same position "CM". Whereas this Belgium team has top quality players playing through the entire team (except defence). They should have done much better with Hazard, KDB, Lukaku etc
 

Serpico

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Dec 30, 2019
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I see the keyboard moral worriers are out in force. When the day comes when any player from any team are purer than pure, then be critical of others when they cheat. It was a brilliant match, football at its best. The wasting time I hate but it's part of the modern Game. Italy were quality tonight . Spain were awful and Swiss were unlucky.
 

hughy

I'm SUPER cereal.
Nov 18, 2007
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Perhaps in certain ways....yes england are.
But 'know how', mentality, holding nerve, experience, no mistakes.....what about these areas?
I don't see how England's mentality can be questioned. We broke a 22 year hoodoo to win our last competitive penalty shootout in the 2018 World Cup, we have had a good to great record in friendlies/qualifiers since then, and this Euro's we have overcome every obstacle with the exception of drawing with Scotland in their World Cup final. We haven't conceded a goal all tournament, and our attack is by far the best on paper without even playing at their peak yet.

Italy have been impressive don't get me wrong, but I hardly fear them.
 

Griff001

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Jul 1, 2014
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I might be alone in this, but I actually quite enjoy Italy's shameless and outright play acting.

They wrote the book on it, and it works to a tee. The 5 minutes of injury time were essentially taken up by Italians rolling around. Perfect way to take the pressure off.
 

spurs mental

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Mar 10, 2007
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I might be alone in this, but I actually quite enjoy Italy's shameless and outright play acting.

They wrote the book on it, and it works to a tee. The 5 minutes of injury time were essentially taken up by Italians rolling around. Perfect way to take the pressure off.
Its part of the game. The best teams who win things have always done it especially when closing games out.

Wish we'd do it more at Spurs.
 

easley91

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Jan 27, 2011
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Perhaps in certain ways....yes england are.
But 'know how', mentality, holding nerve, experience, no mistakes.....what about these areas?
Held their nerve with every lead so far, including Germany when MANY doubted Gareth and his selections. 4 out of 4 clean sheets says there are very few mistakes happening.

Since Gareth came in the penalty shootout hoodoo ended, got us to a World Cup semi final, finals of the first Nations league, beat Germany, on a current run I believe of not conceding since March.

I'd say there have been significant improvements in these areas.
 

easley91

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Jan 27, 2011
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I might be alone in this, but I actually quite enjoy Italy's shameless and outright play acting.

They wrote the book on it, and it works to a tee. The 5 minutes of injury time were essentially taken up by Italians rolling around. Perfect way to take the pressure off.
It just looks stupid to me when your teammate actually suffered a serious injury though. And after Eriksen as well. Just feels really cringy.

I know it's a part of the game, and our own players do it, but sometimes it is too much for me.
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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And now KdB might miss at least all of preseason, if not the start of the new season too.
 

hughy

I'm SUPER cereal.
Nov 18, 2007
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And now KdB might miss at least all of preseason, if not the start of the new season too.

So he probably wouldn't have been been able to play the semi-final/final anyway?

Seems like an incredibly poor decision by him and Belgium to risk it. If I was a City fan I'd be fuming.

As it happens I'm a Spurs fan and he might miss our game, so I'm not that fuming...
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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I think people are going over the top with the pile on Belgium and Martinez. They went out because they aren't good enough not because they are golden but badly coached.
Their back five were Mounier, Toby, Vermalon, Yan and Hazard T none of whom would make the England team, Toby maybe an outside chance but even Yan is past his best. Witsel, Tielemans and Doku? No and Hazard E would have been a banker but is a shadow of his former self so just Lukaku and de Bruyne in contention then. Sadly for Belgium age has caught up with them.
 
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