Loan Watch Joe Rodon -Leeds United
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maybe that’s it. Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Lee Grant and luke shaw are on their list and that would be 4 association trained.
Hasn't it clicked yet.
Daniel James is NOT association trained. The reason he is not on their association trained list is because he is NOT association trained.
The reason they have had to name 37 year old Lee Grant as association trained is because he is, and no other player not named fits into that category (well apart from Phil Jones who they have left out totally)
If James qualified as Association trained do you not think they would have named him in that position and therefore named Sergio Romero as a goalkeeper instead of Lee Grant in their squad ?
Players from Swansea are not Association trained, the rules have not changed, stop dragging this bullshit out. Joe Rodon does NOT qualify as association trained if he joins an English club for European club competition purposes, exactly the same as Ben Davies, and exactly the same as any other player that was not playing for a team registered with the English Association (and no, Swansea are NOT registered with the English FA)
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JamieSpursCommunityUser
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From the website, James isn't mentioned on the list of 11 who qualify as Association or Club trained.
So it's safe to assume that Rodon would be a foreign player in Europe like Davies.
Man Utd confirm Champions League squad for 2020
The club has submitted our A list of players to UEFA ahead of the start of the group stage.
www.manutd.com
There must be a minimum of eight locally trained players, four of whom have come through the club's own ranks between 15 and 21, with United's Tim Fosu-Mensah, Lee Grant, Dean Henderson, Jesse Lingard, Harry Maguire, Scott McTominay, Paul Pogba, Marcus Rashford, Luke Shaw, Axel Tuanzebe and Aaron Wan-Bissaka all classified as either 'club trained' or 'association trained'.
Stupid rule by UEFA though. Players from the same league aren't homegrown, but sign a Brazilian for £30m at 18 and in 3 years he's club trained?
Totally unfair to Swansea and Cardiff players to be at a career disadvantage when clubs in the same league are weighing them up.
THFCSPURS19
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Chill dude.
Sorry, but he just keeps dragging it out, over and over again, and it is completely false, just because someone totally misrepresented/misunderstood a change of administrative procedures story from 9 years ago, which had been shot down by numerous people.
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Cornpattbuck
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Are you in Health & Safety by any chance?
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Worse, he's an ex ref!
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Sorry that maybe my mistake because I found that attached link from wiki and some body said the rules have been changed
Anyway in case of Daniel James that very clear that the Swansea players stilled not count to be AT quota
Thanks for your clarification
im going to keep posting it since it drives you wild.
Tiffers
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someone's a trifle upset it seems ?
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United are all about chasing the Sanchos and Haarlinds of this world when they really ought to be picking up the likes of Rodon. That's what Ferguson did so well along with the big stars.
It's also what we've done so well.
It's also what we've done so well.
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Joe Rodon bid prepared as Tottenham consider loaning him back
Wales and Swansea defender Joe Rodon continues to be in the transfer headlineswww.walesonline.co.uk
They say money doesn’t grow on trees but the time it takes us to prepare a bid I’m starting to think maybe we’re waiting for a beautiful oak to spring up.
OPModric
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We need one more CB now
not really, especially if the loan back deal has a January recall option. I’d gladly loan him back if it gets the deal done at more favorable terms. This one is about the longer term.
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I think we needed a starting CB (Skriniar ect) whilst I think we should sign him, I think loaning him back is the best option. We have Toby Sanchez dier tanganga and davies can fill in.
He can’t play in the Europa league,so that just leaves league cup and premier league which are unlikely so it just leaves FA cup, imo the best option would be let him continue at Swansea at least untill January if not all season
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It makes more sense to keep CCV for the first half of the season because he can play in the Europa League and league cup which are the games where we will need to rotate our defenders. He is more than good enough to play against all our group opponents.
If we absolutely believe Rodon has elite level potential we should sign him but this is a good opportunity to look at Carter-Vickers also.
If you compare Rodon and CCV on whoscored last season Rodon had an average score of 6.94 and CCV on loan at Luton had a rating of 6.93. This may mean nothing of course but it does show Carter-Vickers is a decent player in his own right.
If we absolutely believe Rodon has elite level potential we should sign him but this is a good opportunity to look at Carter-Vickers also.
If you compare Rodon and CCV on whoscored last season Rodon had an average score of 6.94 and CCV on loan at Luton had a rating of 6.93. This may mean nothing of course but it does show Carter-Vickers is a decent player in his own right.
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It’s easy to forget how young CCV is, he’s actually two months Rodon’s junior. I actually think he’d get into a fair few premiership defence from what I’ve seen, the never mind Championship. I just think that we might see Rodon as the better bet long term because he’s more in keeping with that Laporte/ Pique modern centre backs of being very rangy and aerially dominant but with ease on the ball and a good passing range. He could probably pair nicely with any of our current centre backs, and if Tanganga is viewed as a long term starter then someone with that height could make up for JTs shortcomings in this area. A Pique and Puyol partnership in the making.
The team selections suggest to me that Alderweireid is no longer Mourinho’s preferred option for the matches against top attacks, so we’re probably succession planning for him as at 32 next summer he’ll likely want to go somewhere where he’ll start for the rest of his career and if we’re left with Dier, Sanchez, a further developed Tanganga and Rodon with a year in this league under his belt then we’ll be back in the same situation as this summer, I.e. it’d be nice to get an elite level centre back but not the end of the world if we don’t. Swap Rodon and CCV around in that equation and I’m not sure the club would feel the same way.
