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I know it is a pressing subject but in this instance his choice of words considered or not are, just my opinion, poor.
I agree with you, he is shit stirring.
Club statement regarding alleged racism
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I agree with you, he is shit stirring.
punkisback
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The fans booing him are basically doing the same as the chelsea fans who booed the Ferdinand's after Antons accusation against Terry. This scenario is unacceptable and paints us in a very bad light, this is something we have brought on ourelves and not Rudiger's fault.
spursfan77
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It’s not similar at all. Terry was found guilty!
Terry gets four-game ban and fine
Chelsea captain John Terry is banned for four matches and fined £220,000 for racially abusing QPR defender Anton Ferdinand.
www.bbc.co.uk
Well I don't think that " he thinks he heard something " is a good enough reason to bring my clubs name thru the mud .
All the known evidence says it did not happen but for some reason this blokes words are taken as gospel .
Dear me what a sad state of affairs because of the stand " he says it happened so it must be true " prepare yourself for a spate of these accusations . The blokes a liar and he has done it before and will in his own words "do it again "
But the " right on people " will always believe the person that says he heard racist remarks or chants no matter the facts.
I refuse to follow the "he said it so it must be true " line when I know it is not something I heard .
Some of you must believe this world is full of shithole people when the reality is most people are OK .
All the known evidence says it did not happen but for some reason this blokes words are taken as gospel .
Dear me what a sad state of affairs because of the stand " he says it happened so it must be true " prepare yourself for a spate of these accusations . The blokes a liar and he has done it before and will in his own words "do it again "
But the " right on people " will always believe the person that says he heard racist remarks or chants no matter the facts.
I refuse to follow the "he said it so it must be true " line when I know it is not something I heard .
Some of you must believe this world is full of shithole people when the reality is most people are OK .
By the way this "racism has won " is just another indicator of the character of Rudiger .
Thankfully racism will never win in our country .
But definitely Rudiger has won because of the people that refuse to believe it did not happen when all the known evidence says IT DID NOT HAPPEN
Thankfully racism will never win in our country .
But definitely Rudiger has won because of the people that refuse to believe it did not happen when all the known evidence says IT DID NOT HAPPEN
punkisback
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It doesn't matter if he was found guilty or not, in the court of law, Terry was found not guilty. However it is the fans reaction to accusations that i feel is bad; booing him on Saturday could have come across very badly.It’s not similar at all. Terry was found guilty!
Terry gets four-game ban and fine
Chelsea captain John Terry is banned for four matches and fined £220,000 for racially abusing QPR defender Anton Ferdinand.
mark87
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Wow I didn't know Vince McMahon had got involved.
nailsy
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No one took his word as gospel. If they had there wouldn't have been an investigation.
nuttynoah
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His word and accusations are meaningless without any evidence.
Innocent until proven guilty.
With all the technology in the ground to analyse each and every supporter, if no evidence can be found then HE should and must be charged by the club.
nailsy
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What? He should be charged? What for?
nuttynoah
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Wrongful accusation. Whatever the lawspeak for that is.
Dragging the reputation and name of the club through the mud is no light throwaway thing.
Of course he could apoligise.
chrissivad
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OK... I don't agree with it at all. But how do you charge him?
Would you not need to prove that he lied about the racist chants he claimed to hear, and not that he misheard.
nuttynoah
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He certainly didn't misspeak, so ask for an apology or take him to court for slander.
chrissivad
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Slander for what?
He accused someone or part of the crowd of being racist. It was investigated and we have said we have found no evidence. Not that it didn't happen.
I'm not sure he has said anything about the club has he?
Or are you wanting to charge him on the media coverage?
nuttynoah
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To some degree the supporters represent the club. The accusation was at the club's home ground.
Ask him to back up his accusation with evidence. Or withdraw it. And apologise.
He has all the modern technology at his disposal to support his case.
Proving a negative and burden of proof, we shouldn't let this lie.
chrissivad
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Can we provide evidence that it 100% didn't happen?
Because the wording of our investigation with the police does not say that the alleged racist comments didn't happen.
With all the technology you say there is, why can't we come out and say it didn't happen?
There would be no winner in this if the club try and get an apology from the player. He thought he heard something, nothing has been found and that should have been the end of it.
But trying to charge him for wrongful accusation, or slander will do more harm for the next person who believes they are subject to racist comments.
nuttynoah
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If the next person believes they have been subjected to racism can prove it happened, using our ground's technology which can analyse each and every supporter, then great. Ban. fine, imprison the guilty.
But there needs to be a penalty for a wrongly accusation.
The club and police "exhausted all avenues of investigation".
"There is no evidence to corroborate or contradict the allegation," they said.
No evidence.
Proving a negative and burden of proof. He needs to apologise as obviously he can't retract his statement.
