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Oh and you’re wrong about Sanchez. He’s been our best defender this season.
Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez
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Oh and you’re wrong about Sanchez. He’s been our best defender this season.
C0YS
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For what it's worth Sanchez's passing percentage is third in the club, with only Sissoko and Winks ahead of him. Similarly, apart from goalkeepers only Sessegnon, Dier and Toby have been dispossessed less. Similarly in losing the ball by miscontrolling/heavy touches he ranks 5th behind Toby, Dier, Davies and Verts. These are very solid stats.
He might not be a great passer of the ball. Or look comfortable put he passes sensibly and keeps possession fairly well.
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Good, as he should. His key role is to defend, both of those out balls are sensible options. He had a very good game. Made some key blocks and clearances. His passing accuracy was 88% the best in the team. He kept it simple and by doing so minimised risks and helped the team. Good on him.
We have been spoilt by defenders who are very good on the ball. Sanchez isn't a natural at that, but he is probably our strongest natural defender, although he needs to focus a bit more at times and make sure his body shape is right for balls coming into the box. But people are still remembering him starting the season poorly at RB. The key part of that sentence is 'at RB'.
The problem is that many fans make a decision early on and essentially subconsciously look for things to support their opinion and ignore what contradicts it. This is conformation bias and simply a fact of how humans are weird. Once you are labelled with something it is hard to shake it off.
On another but related note, I believe that Sanchez is a much better player than what he was when he first joined. A lot of people were complementing him back then but, again, this is another kind of bias. When new players join we often try to see the best of them and ignore the bad things. Sanchez in his first year was often bullied and beaten in one on ones, his tackles were often soft and his heading weak. He was generally a useful player but not the player that people were saying he was. But we subconsciously ignore those negatives because we want him to be good.
Honestly, the way that perception changes can be dramatic and unfair. There are some players who could be putting the exact same performances during a time they were popular vs a time where they are now not so popular and the same people will have complete different opinions of that performance. I do it to, but I am so tired of it.
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HildoSpur
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He is coming on well - he had a shaky year last year but I think he has come on a good bit this season. He is not the finished article by any means but you can see his improvement. He is already a good player but I think he could become a really excellent one.
tooey
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Ball loss via a heavy heavy touch or miscontrol isn't really a useful statistic for a centre back as they're typically not under pressure when receiving the ball. His pass % is also largely irrelevant because his passes are usually short to a "distributor" in Toby or Jan who typically make the more ambitious pass.
I like him for what he is, a bit of a no nonsence cb who possesses excellent pace and agility. He's a limited footballer but few CB's aren't. We've just been blessed with Jan and Toby who are an exception to the clogger rule.
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He is also absolutely nowhere near as awkward on the ball as people make out. He's a footballing CB, he just doesn't have a side-parting, which might confuse some. He can dribble and he does go for adventurous long balls all the time. People talk about him as if he's Chris Samba simply because he's stacked and strong in the tackle. Looking forward to his ability being appreciated and people bravely posting "omg I can't believe how wrong I was, but hehe, I do hold my hands up!!!".
Edit - chuckled at the disagree from somebody who just said something as loopy as "he's a limited footballer".
Edit - chuckled at the disagree from somebody who just said something as loopy as "he's a limited footballer".
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C0YS
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We agree, I was just pointing out he is as comfortable on the ball as he needs to be, and doesn't lose the ball that much, which is something that has been suggested. I would say the stat was useful for its intended purpose.
slartibartfast
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Well of course his pass percentage is fkin great, he knocks it straight back to Toby 99 times out of a 100 lol.
Talk about stats not telling the whole story.
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I have noticed with Davinson, that when he is on the ball he always looks to pass inside back to Toby rather than spread wide, which puts us into trouble sometimes - he has defended well at times this season, but seems to be much shakier on the ball than in the past.
I thought he had a very good game generally and frankly feel like I've watched a different game to the majority, so I'm probably wrong. Every time city attempted the little slide ball across the box, he was the one cutting it out. A reading of the game that our defence has missed this year. The slight mistakes on the ball is an issue of course.
I also controversially thought that Tanganga was just ok. Although against top opposition in your 6th/7th game out of position. That's impressive enough. I'm all for bigging up the Spurs lads but i've see ratings of 9 for Tanganga and 6 for Sanchez across various platforms, which I'm sure is people getting carried away.
I also controversially thought that Tanganga was just ok. Although against top opposition in your 6th/7th game out of position. That's impressive enough. I'm all for bigging up the Spurs lads but i've see ratings of 9 for Tanganga and 6 for Sanchez across various platforms, which I'm sure is people getting carried away.
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Same as always for me, you can see the way teams try to press/trap the ball when it gets to him.
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Ronwol196061
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Davinson is a very nervous player at times and a very cool and collected one at others. I think he can get control of this as he is a good player.
But..he has to get hold of himself. In his first game with us he was cool and collected nestled between Toby and Verts. I really believe he could be a Ledley but not until he takes control of himself for longer than one game
But..he has to get hold of himself. In his first game with us he was cool and collected nestled between Toby and Verts. I really believe he could be a Ledley but not until he takes control of himself for longer than one game
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I think the expectations when we signed him where that we were signing another Rio Fedinand when we weren’t.
He is a quick, strong and very able defender who is decent with the ball. He has made mistakes and misread situations which I accept fully but I think he has been a really good signing by and large. I also think he will get better. One argument made to me is that perhaps he needs to be paired with a leader, defensive organiser or a better reader of the game than him which I think was a reasonable point too.
He is a quick, strong and very able defender who is decent with the ball. He has made mistakes and misread situations which I accept fully but I think he has been a really good signing by and large. I also think he will get better. One argument made to me is that perhaps he needs to be paired with a leader, defensive organiser or a better reader of the game than him which I think was a reasonable point too.
Ronwol196061
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Yes it's possible that would do the trick. He can look very assured and at other times very tenuous. If he can sort that out he will be a top top man.
punkisback
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Completely agree, in fact he is probably better on the ball than he is at being a stopper sort of defender. I don't think he's that big anyway. Also it's so useful to have a CB with good pace too.
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