Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

dagraham · Jan 1, 2020

Vinny_Sammways_left_peg said:
This is what I can't get my head around - he was here for it and yet seems even more out of shape now then he was then. Yet excuses.

I don’t know what to make of it. I mean if he has a niggling groin injury that should have required him more rest than fine, any player can have that and it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve questioned the wisdom of our medical department.

However, even when he had been apparently “fit” earlier in the season he was blowing out of his arse after 30mins and any time he seems to get a heavy tackle he’s down for the count.

agrdavidsfan · Jan 1, 2020

Vinny_Sammways_left_peg said:
Club need to figure it out soonish.

Agreed and I don’t think Tanguy is fully to blame I can imagine if I was sent to a different country in my early 20’s with silly wages......didn’t have a clue how to cook or had family looking after me until that age then I landed in an Uber city like London with so much temptation you probably would be eating out every night or enjoying what’s around you.

It may even be something simpler like he’s staying up playing PlayStation to talk to his mates back home or something

Deleted member 27995 · Jan 1, 2020

agrdavidsfan said:
Agreed and I don’t think Tanguy is fully to blame I can imagine if I was sent to a different country in my early 20’s with silly wages......didn’t have a clue how to cook or had family looking after me until that age then I landed in an Uber city like London with so much temptation you probably would be eating out every night or enjoying what’s around you.

It may even be something simpler like he’s staying up playing PlayStation to talk to his mates back home or something

That's what separates the good from the great though.

Spurs_Bear · Jan 1, 2020

agrdavidsfan said:
Agreed and I don’t think Tanguy is fully to blame I can imagine if I was sent to a different country in my early 20’s with silly wages......didn’t have a clue how to cook or had family looking after me until that age then I landed in an Uber city like London with so much temptation you probably would be eating out every night or enjoying what’s around you.

It may even be something simpler like he’s staying up playing PlayStation to talk to his mates back home or something

He lives with Sissoko doesnt he? Surely that’s the best role model you could ask for fitness wise.

agrdavidsfan · Jan 1, 2020

Spurs_Bear said:
He lives with Sissoko doesnt he? Surely that’s the best role model you could ask for fitness wise.

But yet again we don’t know some people are natural physical beasts Tanguy maybe just one of those that sadly who can’t get away with anything

ljinko888 · Jan 1, 2020

Lets not underestimate the impact off the field moving to a new country has. Sonny wanted to return to Germany after his first season. Thankfully Poch convinced him to stick it out.

agrdavidsfan · Jan 1, 2020

ljinko888 said:
Lets not underestimate the impact off the field moving to a new country has. Sonny wanted to return to Germany after his first season. Thankfully Poch convinced him to stick it out.

Exactly, there’s a lot of factors you have to take in

One off the field issues etc if he doesn’t speak the language etc he may not feel comfortable going out etc and may be starting to feel homesick or isolated.

The UK isn’t for everyone he comes across as a shy quiet guy maybe he’s just struggling with London the language and the culture entirely.

Just like us when we are in a job that maybe we didn’t enjoy as much as our last one we start to pick up colds etc to miss a few days

jezz · Jan 1, 2020

THFC_SWE said:
Maybe fit enough for playing in France, but not fit enough for Premier League (yet). Sometimes he has look knackered 60 min into a game. The double training sessions is a poor excuse imo. And it's not far away from 6 months now isn't it? He's young and should be fitter.

Earlier in his career he had problems with his fitness.

Rubbish
You've got professional footballers explaining how hard Pochs training is and how long it takes to get up to those standards.
You've totally ignored that, his injuries and expected him to be up to speed.
That's not how it works I'm afraid.
Now he's gotta start again because of an injury that he explained was still bothering him.
The question is who thought a player coming back from injury would be able to play twice in 48 hours?

Spurs_Bear · Jan 1, 2020

jezz said:
Rubbish
You've got professional footballers explaining how hard Pochs training is and how long it takes to get up to those standards.
You've totally ignored that, his injuries and expected him to be up to speed.
That's not how it works I'm afraid.
Now he's gotta start again because of an injury that he explained was still bothering him.
The question is who thought a player coming back from injury would be able to play twice in 48 hours?

And you’ve totally ignored (twice) that there’s more than 48 hours between Saturday and Wednesday.

pelayo59 · Jan 1, 2020

Spurs_Bear said:
And you’ve totally ignored (twice) that there’s more than 48 hours between Saturday and Wednesday.

He was fouled today a few times so if he wasn't 100% fit it didn't really change anything it was 48 hours or 72 between these 2 games

THFCSPURS19 · Jan 2, 2020

Another thread full of idiotic bollocks.

CornerPinDreamer · Jan 2, 2020

"I can;t believe we paid £60m and N'Dombele is keeps getting inured, doesn't he know Levy had to prostitute his own mum to raise the cash. How did Tanguy become a professional footballer without being able to get fit. Why can't he just repay Levy's mums sacrifice by immediately playing at Premier League pace."

jezz · Jan 2, 2020

Spurs_Bear said:
And you’ve totally ignored (twice) that there’s more than 48 hours between Saturday and Wednesday.

Ok 4 days then.
The point is still valid.

Flashspur · Jan 2, 2020

THFCSPURS19 said:
Another thread full of idiotic bollocks.

Well this is kind of an ambiguous bollocks statement as well. Which side are you on mate?

Flashspur · Jan 2, 2020

You can see that even his manager is getting frustrated and he must know better then any of us whether he is genuinely injured, unfit or loiters around the dessert buffet or keeps picking at Eric Dier's left overs.

“He is always injured. He’s injured, he’s not injured, he plays one match, next week he’s injured again, he then plays another match…We are full of hopes but this has been since the beginning of the season.”

Of course it’s a concern. You think you have a player and he is in the evolution process.

He plays very well at Norwich and we were full of hope that today he would be ready for this. And he wasn’t. I cannot say much more than that because it is a situation that comes from the beginning of the season.”

He seemed in a hurry to get off the field. Maybe he had an appointment somewhere or something?

Kiedis · Jan 2, 2020

I think he's just injured, lads. And that it's probably one those where a hernia needing operation is mistaken for a strain.

This season is starting to look like a write off for him, which is a shame, seeing as he could have papered over a lot of our curent cracks.

Spurs_Bear · Jan 2, 2020

THFCSPURS19 said:
Another thread full of idiotic bollocks.

Probably the worst one of them all.

stevenurse · Jan 2, 2020

Frustrating if he's done his groin again. At first it looked like he hadn't recovered from the knee impact and just had a dead leg. I'm hoping that's what he was pointing to.

Should we be surprised that players break when they join us anyway? That's why we can't have nice things

dudu · Jan 2, 2020

jezz said:
Ok 4 days then.
The point is still valid.

It isn't because, as you've also said in a previous post, players need to play to get match fit.

Primativ · Jan 2, 2020

I think everyone is going way OTT on this. He's injured, so he's picked up a couple of injuries in a row? Frustrating but it happens. There were no worries about his fitness against Norwich was there.

Jose is obviously frustrated but Tanguy knows his own body. Jose's frustration is probably more to do with the fact that he recognises our CM is shit and without Ndombele we are fucked. If he doesn't feel right, what can we do? Surely nobody is accusing him of faking it. Is Ndombele any worse than Lamela who seems to have spent 75% of his Spurs career injured?

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