Club Statement 19 Nov 19 - Pochettino leaves
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yup old Danny thinks it is 2004 and Jose is the new young rising star....feels like he can get the success out of him that the Russian did....without spending the money of course
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I like a lot of you I am gutted that Poch's reign is over without him winning any thing with us. But if truth be told, he had the chances to do so and didnt take them.
Poch is a brilliant coach who developed and improved players magnificently. But where he fell down was his stewardship on match days, where his team selection, game management and tactics were questioned on too many occasions. The CL final is the classic example. People need to take their heads out the sand and realise that we were spiraling down the league because of this, and the fact that other teams had worked out how to counter his methods, where he then didn't know how to respond.
People calling for Levy to fuck off and accusing him of not backing the manager need to be real. Despite the rhetoric, Poch was backed and supported by Levy. I know of players that were available who some of us were crying out for him to sign, while club was willing to get them, Poch didn't want them. Players including Maddison and co. This is where I think his player assessment was suspect, which ties in logically with his questionable selection at times.
The problem in my opinion is not that Poch was not getting certain players, its what he would do with them if he got them, because as I said his game plan and tactics were iffy, so we would more than likely be in the same position as we are in now.
Daniel Levy was never going to win this one as he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. In the end he made the right call in my opinion.
Thanks for 5+ wonderful years Poch, as you will always be revered here and rightly so, but its time for the next chapter.
Poch is a brilliant coach who developed and improved players magnificently. But where he fell down was his stewardship on match days, where his team selection, game management and tactics were questioned on too many occasions. The CL final is the classic example. People need to take their heads out the sand and realise that we were spiraling down the league because of this, and the fact that other teams had worked out how to counter his methods, where he then didn't know how to respond.
People calling for Levy to fuck off and accusing him of not backing the manager need to be real. Despite the rhetoric, Poch was backed and supported by Levy. I know of players that were available who some of us were crying out for him to sign, while club was willing to get them, Poch didn't want them. Players including Maddison and co. This is where I think his player assessment was suspect, which ties in logically with his questionable selection at times.
The problem in my opinion is not that Poch was not getting certain players, its what he would do with them if he got them, because as I said his game plan and tactics were iffy, so we would more than likely be in the same position as we are in now.
Daniel Levy was never going to win this one as he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. In the end he made the right call in my opinion.
Thanks for 5+ wonderful years Poch, as you will always be revered here and rightly so, but its time for the next chapter.
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Poch got toby a big deal from danny
toby and danny shook on it
toby's team went back for more money
poch lost face with his boss
toby should have been sold
danny asked for too much money
toby been good on the field
poch picked him despite wanting to build with davidson
we got to the cl final
everyone thought toby would be leaving
no big money
in toby and danny's interest that he signs a new deal
and in a nut shell the divide between fans in this era of enic is laid bare
there was a football club there once....and again for the past few years
scat1620
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They're only opinions so I can't say they're wrong, but I think those two statements are bloomin' mental.
double0
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It was a very easy fix. Levy had to back Pochettinho in the market period. Stand by the man and have trust...he bottled it big time did want to spend the money.
Lets see what's gonna happen now with the next manager coming in people are shouting for trophies. Is Levy going to pay up or dance.
definitely not the first one!
It's pretty obvious what's happened. It's no secret that Mourinho has always liked Spurs, and Levy's always admired Mourinho.
There's been plenty of rumours of Mourinho being on BM's list, and even stronger ones that Arsenal were looking to sack Emery to appoint Mourinho.
Basically, Levy realised it was a question of when Poch has to go, not if, and knew that he had to act fast if he wanted Mourinho.
So he did. The end.
There's been plenty of rumours of Mourinho being on BM's list, and even stronger ones that Arsenal were looking to sack Emery to appoint Mourinho.
Basically, Levy realised it was a question of when Poch has to go, not if, and knew that he had to act fast if he wanted Mourinho.
So he did. The end.
ClintEastwould
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It’s definitely emotional but mental? Jose has always been one of my least favorite characters in football (I am not alone in this assessment) but I’ll admit that he’s pretty much always been relatively successful. I loved Poch because I thought he would bring us organic, romantic success - the game is about glory and all that isn’t it? - but if Jose brings us trophies I have no doubt the narrative will always be about him and how he dragged a loser club finally over the line and that he’s gods gift to football management. I’ll enjoy the success because I love spurs but don’t tell me I’m wrong if I don’t see the feeling of selling out. I rest my case.
scat1620
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I agree, the game is about glory. It's just that for me, glory is winning trophies (however they come), and success doesn't have to be romantic to be success. All cool, I get where you're coming from, just a difference in what we want out of Spurs, fair dos.
Roynie
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IMHO, Poch made one serious mistake. He dropped Lucas for Harry Kane in the Final. If not for that, I truely believe we would have won, Harry wasn't match fit, and that made the difference.
His game management has always been suspect, but he has had us playing some fantastic football, got us to the CL final, brought us back the glory days.
I really detest Moaninio, but the Club is bigger than any individual. Fcuk my head is about to explode! ?
His game management has always been suspect, but he has had us playing some fantastic football, got us to the CL final, brought us back the glory days.
I really detest Moaninio, but the Club is bigger than any individual. Fcuk my head is about to explode! ?
seppo
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No mate. Because every well-regarded football pundit/person/expert has said similar things all evening. What do most of them know though, lonman34 thinks otherwise.
Danny1
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Poch, thanks for all the amazing memories and some of the best games I’ve seen as a Spurs supporter. You are and always will be one of the best things that has happened to Spurs and I have nothing but respect for you. I hope that this sacking doesn’t make you look back over your time and dislike the club, as you know our fans will always cheer your name.
We, now as a club, need to move on and embrace whoever comes in with open arms. COYS
We, now as a club, need to move on and embrace whoever comes in with open arms. COYS
Hitch
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I'm not sure I'll be able to handle watching us play Man Utd with Poch as their coach. That's going to be a tough one (insert ex-girlfriend analogy here).
Perhaps Jose or someone else will finally win us a trophy (doubt more than a cup), but it honestly won't feel quite as special to me as it would have with Poch. Despite the lack of silverware to prove it he was a great man in our club's history, and it just saddens me very deeply that it must end this way. This is no ordinary Spurs/Levy sacking in my view.
A little bit of the romance died for me tonight...though not for the first time. The real romantic endings seem to be reserved for our enemies.
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Perhaps Jose or someone else will finally win us a trophy (doubt more than a cup), but it honestly won't feel quite as special to me as it would have with Poch. Despite the lack of silverware to prove it he was a great man in our club's history, and it just saddens me very deeply that it must end this way. This is no ordinary Spurs/Levy sacking in my view.
A little bit of the romance died for me tonight...though not for the first time. The real romantic endings seem to be reserved for our enemies.
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Mediocrates
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A very decent man has been massively fucked by the system here. Daniel Levy is a wonderful modern football chairmen. I loathe him, and I'm glad to have decided to rescind my season ticket of 20 years 2 and a half months ago. Spurs for life but fuck this, the club has been 'overachieving' to a nosebleeding extent since he got here. Everton outspend us by a mile. Bottom line is heavy eh. No more money to ENIC here 
Say what we want about Mourinho and I can say plenty. I wanted Allegri but Jose is just as well to be honest. There is no denying that someone like him is what we need right now. We need that win at all costs guy to teach this club how to win.
Lol. See you Saturday
ChristianBaler
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I can only imagine what Poch is going through mentally. The guy loses the CL final and doesnt come out of his house for days, I cant imagine how he's going to handle the next days/weeks after this.
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