The Mauricio Pochettino thread

danielneeds · Nov 12, 2019

Joeyboey said:
We’ve actually been in steady decline since since 16/17 with our point tallies slowly diminishing ever since. This downward curve that has turned into free-fall has been brewing for years.

Poch couldn’t stop the gentle downward curve so what makes people think he’s able to stop free-fall?! It’s beyond me.

Not hysterical, just a fair overview using facts.

But wasn’t the downward curve because Levy didn’t let him replenish the side? We lost Wanyama and Dembele as effective pillars, not replaced. We ran Eriksen into the ground as our only creative player of note, no support.

Sandros Shiny Head · Nov 12, 2019

pelayo59 said:
I wouldn't say Matt Law was very reliable about Tottenham this summer, and after transfer window he thought this wasn't good window.
Isn't that working that if we sack Poch, we are paying his contract until he find another job, not 12.5 mil? Becuase it's pretty obvious he will find new club fast.

How much is his army of ~~mates~~ coaches being paid? Could just be one years combined to clear out

felmani26 · Nov 12, 2019

Gb160 said:
Quite a few parallels with Klopps last season at Dortmund.

Could just be a shrewdly inserted get out clause by Levy

I'd say ALOT of parallels with Klopps last season!

As many sensible posters have alluded to, this isn't a case of us turning on Poch calling him a shit manager, clueless etc - it's just a fact of management that you have a shelf life and i'm afraid his has expired in the minds of the players.

He'll move on and so will we.

nuttynoah · Nov 12, 2019

felmani26 said:
Gards saying he's hearing differently to JJ (sad face)....

where can i see this?

spursfan77 · Nov 12, 2019

Guntz said:
Poch under pressure according to the Telegraph

https://t.co/J5hITc5yYI?amp=1

Reads like a planted article flushed out with fluff. Not sure I’d trust Matt Law either. Let’s see if it appears elsewhere.

danielneeds · Nov 12, 2019

nuttynoah said:
where can i see this?

wrd · Nov 12, 2019

The way I see it is that Levy would surely have had to have words with Poch regarding our form and Poch would have needed to justify to Levy the reasons we are not getting the required results with the squad we have and have given tangible solutions to how we can turn it around long term with a specific plan in January. Levy must surely agree that they're things that have to be put right which is why he is giving Poch the benefit of the doubt.

Otherwise I imagine the results would have proven too much. I also imagine that there is a limit to how far we can slide before action is taken before we reach January.

Only other thing I'd say is the only other reason I can see is if they're waiting for the bayern game to pass per Ornsteins info.

spursfan77 · Nov 12, 2019

DCSPUR said:
think it is somewhat answered if JJ is right - Levy is going to back the manager.
Very likely 4+ players out in Jan and probably 2+ in the summer (CE, TA, DR, SA, VW for certain and possibly JV - though i hope not - and maybe ED).
In Jan probably see Jack Clarke brought back and 1-2 purchases in the 20-30 million bracket, younger talent.
Further moves next summer.

no chance we do all that in January. None at all. I’d be surprised if there’s even one in and one out.

danielneeds · Nov 12, 2019

spursfan77 said:
Reads like a planted article flushed out with fluff. Not sure I’d trust Matt Law either. Let’s see if it appears elsewhere.

Matt Law is always spot on with Chelsea. Not so good with us. I’d wager he’s heard something, though.

cjbyid · Nov 12, 2019

Gards & JJ having a discussion about it all on Twitter.

Sandros Shiny Head · Nov 12, 2019

Better off with Poch? Lmao hook line and sinker

spursfan77 · Nov 12, 2019

Poch was meant to be at the annual European coaches conference in Switzerland yesterday but didn’t go. There was an article about the conference on the Athletic today and they mention he usually goes but not this time. Significant I reckon.

Yiddo100 · Nov 12, 2019

spursfan77 said:
Poch was meant to be at the annual European coaches conference in Switzerland yesterday but didn’t go. There was an article about the conference on the Athletic today and they mention he usually goes but not this time. Significant I reckon.

Didn’t it say in the article he’d been at the training ground

VegasII · Nov 12, 2019

spursfan77 said:
Poch was meant to be at the annual European coaches conference in Switzerland yesterday but didn’t go. There was an article about the conference on the Athletic today and they mention he usually goes but not this time. Significant I reckon.

He can't be swanning off to Toblerone land when his club is in the shit.

wrd · Nov 12, 2019

Yiddo100 said:
Didn’t it say in the article he’d been at the training ground

Fingers crossed this is him and dele

ClintEastwould · Nov 12, 2019

wrd said:
The original JJetset - https://twitter.com/jetsetyid/status/1194346781334593536

We won’t sack him now & the hysteria on here is stupid. His first major blip in charge and he will be supported to come through it. Yes the form has been off for a while & playing style needs to change, yes we need to update certain positions but we will support MP as we should.
Quote Tweet.

Yessssss

Shadydan · Nov 12, 2019

spursfan77 said:
Poch was meant to be at the annual European coaches conference in Switzerland yesterday but didn’t go. There was an article about the conference on the Athletic today and they mention he usually goes but not this time. Significant I reckon.

Probably just fancied a night in front of Netflix with the mrs mate.

spursfan77 · Nov 12, 2019

Yiddo100 said:
Didn’t it say in the article he’d been at the training ground

I just read it as he didn’t go but usually does.

felmani26 · Nov 12, 2019

danielneeds said:
Matt Law is always spot on with Chelsea. Not so good with us. I’d wager he’s heard something, though.

Certainly there is something in the air of looking at a contingency here should Poch not turn it around post international break.

Whether it's a very real movement of thought from the board remains to be seen.

danielneeds · Nov 12, 2019

ClintEastwould said:
Yessssss

Look at the posts above, though. Gards has heard different and he was pretty spot on earlier in the summer with the whole “Poch was unhappy” and #BackPoch episode.

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