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Metalhead

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The frustration is that he talks a lot about trusting in youth but very rarely actually does it, no matter how poorly the established first teamers are playing
It seemed really positive not too long ago that we had the blend right - or certainly getting that way but at the moment it seems like the worst of both worlds.
 

Navin R Johnson

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Reading through some of the posts in here it's almost as if Poch didn't himself say that this was going to be a painful process before the summer even started
Well given that the bloke talks unintelligible bollocks at most of his press conferences someone's always going to be able to drag up a quote to reinforce a point.
 

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I don't think he will as sadly they are clearly not good enough at the moment.

Yet apparently he doesn't want signings in January as he'd rather trust in youth. That's from David Ornstein si fairly reliable I would say.

Something doesn't add up.
 

Sid Tottenham

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Who knows what’s going on
Probably a few on here but the rest of us just I dunno guessing
If Poch has had enough its all over
If he want to stay and build then fans are gonna have to be patient
Remember he put you in the position to moan about not playing well making top 4, because he set the standards that he’s now being judged by.
It’s up to him imo if he’s had enough it’s all over though.
 

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Before my time but bill nick had a rough start to his tenure if teh interweb was around then there would of been threads about getting rid And after the double and cup winners cup nothing for 5 years can you imagine
Obviously not comparing our greatest ever manager with Poch
More of a comment on our fan base no doubt there was people who wanted Bill out I’ll have to ask my old man or uncle
 
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Before my time but bill nick had a rough start to his tenure if teh interweb was around then there would of been threads about getting rid And after the double and cup winners cup nothing for 5 years can you imagine

At the start, or after 4 or 5 years? That's the difference with the fergie/Man Utd and these types of comparisons. You can attribute a slow start to a job on many things - a slump after a manager says things which elude to a loss of appetite is very much a different thing.

To tackle a broader subject beyond your post...

There are some views in here being unfairly criticised; this is, after all, a Spurs supporters forum - not a Pochettino supporters forum. I've read through some posts that have been out of order in saying that people aren't proper fans because they have no faith in him - there are a lot of people who love the club who want the best for it, and just because they don't believe that he can do it any more (and who can blame them - our 2019 has been horrific, bar the UCL) doesn't somehow mean that they are lesser supporters.
 

Sid Tottenham

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At the start, or after 4 or 5 years? That's the difference with the fergie/Man Utd and these types of comparisons. You can attribute a slow start to a job on many things - a slump after a manager says things which elude to a loss of appetite is very much a different thing.

To tackle a broader subject beyond your post...

There are some views in here being unfairly criticised; this is, after all, a Spurs supporters forum - not a Pochettino supporters forum. I've read through some posts that have been out of order in saying that people aren't proper fans because they have no faith in him - there are a lot of people who love the club who want the best for it, and just because they don't believe that he can do it any more (and who can blame them - our 2019 has been horrific, bar the UCL) doesn't somehow mean that they are lesser supporters.
Yeah not saying anyone’s right or wrong I happen to want him to stay and rebuild but that’s not my point.
maybe a bit of patience is what I’m asking for
Maybe I can’t let go of the dream of Poch being our fergie/wenger I dunno
Like I said depends on what’s really happening behind the scenes because obviously something is very wrong.
 

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Poch has shows precisely zero willingness to use youth so that is bullshit. Poch said the same thing when we made zero signings for 18 months and he didnt use the academy.
Was his 'being brave' comment really related to giving youth a chance instead of making signings though? I always felt that was just attributed to him as an excuse for the failure of the club to sign anyone. Certainly 'being brave' is an ambiguous statement.
 

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Yeah I get it but I'm not the chairman.

Levy is a smart man, he knows what he's doing - he's probably looked at it and said if we come out of the first half of the season bearing in mind by the 4th December we would have played away to City, Liverpool, Leicester, Everton, Arsenal, West Ham and Man Utd we have a much more comfortable 2nd half of the season. I think this above anything else (apart from the compensation) is keeping Levy from pulling the trigger.

Funny how people always berated Levy to back Poch, remember the hashtag on Twitter?, yet the irony is that when's he actually backing his manager in his time of need some of you lot don't keep the same energy...you can't have it both ways.
If you dont back a manager when times are good but back him when times are bad, it screams one thing to everyone. Extreme unwillingness to spend. Wont spend to improve. Wont spend to bring in a fresh voice. It's quite obvious. Things will never change with this club as long as short stack and old grandpa on the yacht are in charge. We need to be sold up.
 

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Was his 'being brave' comment really related to giving youth a chance instead of making signings though? I always felt that was just attributed to him as an excuse for the failure of the club to sign anyone. Certainly 'being brave' is an ambiguous statement.
Im not even sure Poch knows what the fuck he means when he says being brave.
 
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Was his 'being brave' comment really related to giving youth a chance instead of making signings though? I always felt that was just attributed to him as an excuse for the failure of the club to sign anyone. Certainly 'being brave' is an ambiguous statement.

As was mentioned all over the summer, the bloke did an entire book about 'Brave' which was pretty semantically broad, so I think it was just another non-specific soundbite.

He very rarely tells the media the truth and speaks (it seems) purposely vague statements that satisfy their questions.
 

Shadydan

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If you dont back a manager when times are good but back him when times are bad, it screams one thing to everyone. Extreme unwillingness to spend. Wont spend to improve. Wont spend to bring in a fresh voice. It's quite obvious. Things will never change with this club as long as short stack and old grandpa on the yacht are in charge. We need to be sold up.

Did he not back the manager in the summer then?
 

Sid Tottenham

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Think being brave was a message to our chairman and to be fair he gave Sissoko a 4 year contract that’s up there with hacksaw ridge shit
 

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Did he not back the manager in the summer then?
This. How many years until people stop going on about summer 2018? What happened, happened. We got top 4 and a CL final, then spent upwards of 100mil on some key targets.
 
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