Match Threads Spurs vs Watford - Match Thread

archiewasking · Oct 19, 2019

ILS said:
Was there boo's at the end?

In the pub, yes.

Oscar2 · Oct 19, 2019

Ionman34 said:
There is a common denominator to all of this and it isn’t Eriksen. The entire squad, barring one or two players, are massively underperforming for a manager they would have run through walls for over the last few seasons.

He’s lost them, that has been abundantly clear for a while now and today has underlined that.

We are currently looking like Chelsea in Mourinho’s last season, players who appear to be playing to get the manager out.

We all know how this ends.

Why is that though? To go from, through walls as you say, to this

theShiznit · Oct 19, 2019

Oscar2 said:
Just throwing this out there as I would love to hear you guys opinion

Are we really that shit, and will changing coach/manager, have a positive effect on the same players??

The "rumours" are the players think he (poch) runs a regime and works them too hard.

And i hate to break it to them but if they think what they're putting in ATM is hard work then what's to say if another manager comes in and make them run in training they decide he's gotta go to?

Could end up the new Chelsea (minus the trophy ~~buys~~ wins)

The fact is that pre-Poch this group of players were nobodies. and it looks like they're going to cost him his Spurs job and maybe his career (unless Real or United still think he holds some attraction)

Could easily see United coming in for him if Ole continues as is, and wouldn't begrudge him a move there as i think he deserves better than the players are giving him ATM.

King of Otters · Oct 19, 2019

Thewobbler said:
So erisken didnt play and we were still shit, who are we blaming now???

I’m still blaming Eriksen and there’s nothing you can do to stop me.

nedley · Oct 19, 2019

TheHoddleWaddle said:
That is a foregone conclusion. I had no expectations this season. Some have short memories, poch hinted, no said, the squad needed a rebuild. It does. This season is a write off. The stadium was always going to prevent continual recruitment and we are now seeing the Impact. Sacking poch is a daft move, unless there is a sound and reasonable long term plan. Knee jerking and shirt termism, which is what Mourinho is, will leave us in this state again down the line

I appreciate your view.

Hoddle&Waddle · Oct 19, 2019

Oscar2 said:
Just throwing this out there as I would love to hear you guys opinion

Are we really that shit, and will changing coach/manager, have a positive effect on the same players??

I think the majority of our problems our with the system. By playing no wide players he's hung the full backs out to dry. The second half showed what a well balance system can do.

lis spur · Oct 19, 2019

archiewasking said:
In the pub, yes.

Boos in a pub,imagine!!!!

Indisguise · Oct 19, 2019

Clearly time for a vote of no confidence...

JerryGarcia · Oct 19, 2019

1882andallthat said:
That is a pretty low bar but all things considered, that small staw is well and truly clutched.

Hold on to it for dear life!

TheHoddleWaddle · Oct 19, 2019

sausage said:
Who's door do you put it at?

He's the manager. It's his job to motivate, select, and train.

If the ones who want to leave aren't performing, don't play them. He does, for some reason, and goes on about trust etc. He's the architect of these performances though, as he's shown no desire to commit either going by what he's said this calendar year.

I said not all of it. But, what alternatives are there? Especially defensively and at wing back? Who could make a positive impact? It isnt just a case of giving youth a go. We've seen a few clearly not ready for.this level.

How would you go about motivating a few players who are looking at the exit? If their heads are turned and you dont have much in the reserve tank? It's a no win situation to a.large degree.

Anyway. Time.will tell I suppose. I'm not blind to the issues, but it's a little unfair to place it all on a coach who has over achieved anyway.

For me, persoanlly, we have been exposed as a mediocre side and itll take a while to get it back. If he is sacked. I just want to know what the long term situation is and that they have a proper strategy in place.

jondy1 · Oct 19, 2019

shoggy33 said:
You do realise that VAR isn't just a giant TV screen yeh? There's people behind that making the decision and the ref clearly checked with them like 3 times.

Well to be fair I didn’t have a live feed just Thommos commentary

TEESSIDE1 · Oct 19, 2019

Oscar2 said:
Why is that though? To go from, through walls as you say, to this

I was already fed up then my dessert arrived and I was like ffs it’s bigger than the pint glass lol

ILS · Oct 19, 2019

theShiznit said:
The "rumours" are the players think he (poch) runs a regime and works them too hard.

And i hate to break it to them but if they think what they're putting in ATM is hard work then what's to say if another manager comes in and make them run in training they'll decide he's gotta go to.

Could end up the new Chelsea (minus the trophy ~~buys~~ wins)

The fact is that pre-Poch this group of players were nobodies. and it looks like they're going to cost him his Spurs job and maybe his career (unless Real or United still think he holds some attraction)

Could easily see United coming in for him if Ole continues as is, and wouldn't begrudge him a move there as i think he deserves better than the players are giving him ATM.

Let him go to Utd ....as I will go back to the most obvious of points...he has won sod all as a manager.

Larryfromthelane · Oct 19, 2019

kaz Hirai said:
Interesting that you feel he doesn't deserve it .

If Harry Kane scored 2 goals all season and looked as good as Janssen would u say sell, he doesn't deserve another season?

Fine u wanting a change but seems weird to say he doesn't deserve it considering our league standings during poch era and our standings in the ENTIRE HISTORY of the league before him.

anyway time to go live life, enjoy your moaning kids

We were averaging 5th before he took over, now about 4th. Hes improved us, but not enough to wait around 5 years for him to sort his own mess out

tcyrus · Oct 19, 2019

Oscar2 said:
Just throwing this out there as I would love to hear you guys opinion

Are we really that shit, and will changing coach/manager, have a positive effect on the same players??

Nope

Oscar2 · Oct 19, 2019

BTW, anyone know who the Irish guy was, that was co commentating on the game on NBC here in the US?

Now I'm Irish, but this guy was driving me fucking nuts

nav007_2000 · Oct 19, 2019

Harry kane needs to be dropped
Doesn't bring anything to the game. Play son and moura up top

BuryMeInEngland · Oct 19, 2019

Ionman34 said:
There is a common denominator to all of this and it isn’t Eriksen. The entire squad, barring one or two players, are massively underperforming for a manager they would have run through walls for over the last few seasons.

He’s lost them, that has been abundantly clear for a while now and today has underlined that.

We are currently looking like Chelsea in Mourinho’s last season, players who appear to be playing to get the manager out.

We all know how this ends.

But it's all smiles and happy faces in the club pictures from training sessions. It doesn't seem to equate, does it?

Edit: Mind you I smile at my boss and I secretly wish him nothing but ill will....

Graysonti · Oct 19, 2019

TheHoddleWaddle said:
I said not all of it. But, what alternatives are there? Especially defensively and at wing back? Who could make a positive impact? It isnt just a case of giving youth a go. We've seen a few clearly not ready for.this level.

How would you go about motivating a few players who are looking at the exit? If their heads are turned and you dont have much in the reserve tank? It's a no win situation to a.large degree.

Anyway. Time.will tell I suppose. I'm not blind to the issues, but it's a little unfair to place it all on a coach who has over achieved anyway.

For me, persoanlly, we have been exposed as a mediocre side and itll take a while to get it back. If he is sacked. I just want to know what the long term situation is and that they have a proper strategy in place.

Has he overachieved ? Or underachieved with a top quality squad.

His tactics have been questionable many many times.

rupsmith · Oct 19, 2019

TheHoddleWaddle said:
For me, persoanlly, we have been exposed as a mediocre side and itll take a while to get it back. If he is sacked. I just want to know what the long term situation is and that they have a proper strategy in place.

Could not agree more

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