The Mauricio Pochettino thread

shelfboy68 · May 1, 2019

Lighty64 said:
because there wasn't a good enough HG player available in Dembele's position, and Sissoko was providing pretty good cover

Hasn't done us any good though mate has it let's be honest.

Lighty64 · May 1, 2019

Krule said:
It's such a shame the number of defeats Spurs have incurred this season where we have been unable to say that the players were tactically well assembled and put in an excellent performance but were simply beaten by a better team on the day. I will accept that and move on.

Everyone can make excuses for losing but most of the criticisms on this website regarding where errors are made seem perfectly reasonable and correct...it's just a pity that Poch and his team don't pick up on the danger signs and react before we are a goal or two down. There is no shame in changing the shape or bringing on a substitution after 10-15 mins of a game if you can see the storm clouds gathering. It is not a sign of failure or weakness, in fact, it shows an astute awareness and willingness to adapt.

The other problem is that the lack of depth in the squad allows certain players to perform well within their capabilities but be sure of retaining their first team spots because there simply isn't anyone else good enough to replace them. I thought that Eriksen and Alli were typical examples against Ajax. Maybe Poch has developed too close a relationship with some of the stars and doesn't wish to step on any toes...I don't know but it needs sorting. I am growing weary of waiting for a 70th or even 80th minute sub(s) to come on and try to make an impact in a game that has been slipping from our grasp since early in the first half.

don't think it's a case of stepping on toes, we just haven't got the quality or even prospects coming through the ranks to oust Dele and Eriksen. to be fair Dele has seen time on the bench, and also taken off a fair amount this season

Krule · May 1, 2019

Lighty64 said:
don't think it's a case of stepping on toes, we just haven't got the quality or even prospects coming through the ranks to oust Dele and Eriksen. to be fair Dele has seen time on the bench, and also taken off a fair amount this season

Maybe we should suggest that Poch and his staff use those "tablet screens" they stare at so seriously during a game to check out the match threads on here to see where they are going wrong....??

Lighty64 · May 1, 2019

rossdapep said:
I think it's a bit of both. The players clearly are not comfortable being that far back and I'd argue that Sanchez, Toby and Jan are a little unsure of their positioning in a CB 3 - who do they pick up? which space are they supposed to be in? etc. It happened away at City for the Foden goal, all of them stood there static not knowing who to run with.

We always invite pressure, the players get confused, there's no substance in midfield, the full backs get over ran and the opposition can run rings around us. Get up the field, give them something to concern themselves with, be brave, double up on their full backs, limit the space for their passing game and force them to do it in their half. If we do these things we give ourselves a chance.

I agree If we are to play aback 3 it should be Jan, Dier, Toby. I think Sanchez plays better in a back 4, when with Jan. when with Toby I think Poch starts them on the wrong side

Lighty64 · May 1, 2019

shelfboy68 said:
Hasn't done us any good though mate has it let's be honest.

I agree but if clubs don't want to buy our deadwood, and Levy won't pay for players to sit at home playing on their PS4's then it's a case of hoping we don't suffer these injuries. had it not been for the injuries, we wouldn't of got to see the new Sissoko whose only fault is like Dembele he doesn't score.

if we could of sold 1 other player and got 1 HG in, in January, then they could of tried for a Dembele replacement which isn't easy in January. we really needed Dembele off the books in the summer, but with him in the Belgium squad and the window closing straight after, it made it more difficult in the summer.

this Summer if we replace Vorm with a decent HG 3rd choice, has to be good, too many times we have called on Gazza, because Lloris and Vorm being out at the same time. we have the bonus that KWP can become a senior, which will then allow us to not be restricted in the nationality of a Dembele replacement

Roy's Racers · May 1, 2019

ljinko888 said:
The fluid passing and aggressive pressing Ajax executed especially in that first 30 is the standard I want to see next season. We used to be good at it but this season has been a slog.

We also did it better. With quicker full backs and midfielders (Dembele & Wanyama) that were able to carry the ball through the lines.

dricha1 · May 1, 2019

Lighty64 said:
it wasn't the formation that cost us the goal, it was because half of them where asleep at the time he got 5 minutes to decide what part of the net to place it. he most probably hoped that 5 at the back would contain them, but a little while after the goal and saw the dangers increasing, he decided he had to change it, or face a battering

The match was another example of where we have been all season. Slow start, rectify at half-time play better.

I know injuries have impacted us heavily but what about opposition scouting?..is this up to scratch?...seems that plan A has often required a change...

SteveH · May 1, 2019

Yesterday had a bit of groundhog day about it!

Gassin's finest · May 1, 2019

I really dislike back 3's...

Yid121 · May 1, 2019

Lighty64 said:
other than starting with Rose in midfield, we played 5 at the back because we haven't any experienced midfield or attacks fit or available to play. our bench consisted of 3 defenders 2 CDM (1 that's better as a defender) and Sissoko

So we start Sissoko at CM with Wanyama.

Rose only moved into midfield after their 1st goal and we were much improved so that could also have been an option from the outset. Unfortunately we'd lost the 1st 20/25 minutes and a goal down by then.

Lighty64 · May 1, 2019

Gassin's finest said:
I really dislike back 3's...

I quiet liked it with Jan-Dier-Toby with Walker and Rose as wing backs

Gassin's finest · May 1, 2019

Lighty64 said:
I quiet liked it with Jan-Dier-Toby with Walker and Rose as wing backs

Is that really a rigid back 3, or is that a back 4, with the flexibilty of the pivot to drop back and allow the WB's to bomb on. We haven't been able to do that properly since Walker and Dembele left.

Lighty64 · May 1, 2019

Yid121 said:
So we start Sissoko at CM with Wanyama.

Rose only moved into midfield after their 1st goal and we were much improved so that could also have been an option from the outset. Unfortunately we'd lost the 1st 20/25 minutes and a goal down by then.

With Sissoko just returning I’d of expected that Poch played what he thought was best, with hope that Sissoko might get 15mins at the end.

We can all complain after the event. If it had been 0-0 when Poch made the change and we went onto win, we would of had a lot less experts on here singing his praises ala Dortmund

Lighty64 · May 1, 2019

Gassin's finest said:
Is that really a rigid back 3, or is that a back 4, with the flexibilty of the pivot to drop back and allow the WB's to bomb on. We haven't been able to do that properly since Walker and Dembele left.

We played that more in our final season, but had a very strong Wanyama and Dembele just a head of them

vegassd · May 1, 2019

Lighty64 said:
we have the bonus that KWP can become a senior, which will then allow us to not be restricted in the nationality of a Dembele replacement

This is in no way a bonus. Remember, we don't have to have a certain number of HG players... we are just limited on the number of non-HG players.

KWP will no longer be registered as an U21 player and will therefore need to occupy one of the 25 senior squad places. That takes away a squad place from somebody else. The nationality thing isn't a factor at all because he is HG. So if Poch doesn't want to play him it would be the right time to sell him.

SteveH · May 1, 2019

Gassin's finest said:
I really dislike back 3's...

so does the squad judging by their actions

Gassin's finest · May 1, 2019

Lighty64 said:
We played that more in our final season, but had a very strong Wanyama and Dembele just a head of them

'Final' season?

dtxspurs · May 1, 2019

We had our best season ever playing almost exclusively a back 3, Chelsea won a title with the back 3. The formation isn't the issue. We don't have the perfect players for it anymore, due to the drop in quality from Dembele & Wanyama who could manhandle any midfield between the two of them & Walker. But its still effective.

People also seem to forget we pummeled Dortmund using 3 at the back.

Gassin's finest · May 1, 2019

dtxspurs said:
We had our best season ever playing almost exclusively a back 3, Chelsea won a title with the back 3. The formation isn't the issue. We don't have the perfect players for it anymore, due to the drop in quality from Dembele & Wanyama who could manhandle any midfield between the two of them & Walker. But its still effective.

People also seem to forget we pummeled Dortmund using 3 at the back.

I think it's more this, when I say it doesn't work. It worked because we had the personnel to make it flexible and dynamic, so that it was very effective.

I don't think it's been good at all this season, for the reason you say.

dtxspurs · May 1, 2019

Gassin's finest said:
I think it's more this, when I say it doesn't work. It worked because we had the personnel to make it flexible and dynamic, so that it was very effective.

I don't think it's been good at all this season, for the reason you say.

I also think Dier's passing ability from the back over Sanchez is a pretty over looked aspect of it.

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