Where now for Robbo

[Flatters]

I sit in Park Lane lower and like always support all our players including Robbo. Robbo, for me, is probably the most supported player. That does'nt mean I am happy with him. For me, he is making too many mistakes and has been for a while but for whatever reason our manager is not dropping/resting him. He could well be the downfall of our manager.

He's still getting much less support than he used to. Last time I went, there was very little support for him at all.

Surely Ledley's the most supported player. Maybe he doesn't get his name chanted as much as Robbo, but it's easier to chant for the keeper when he's right in front of you. Ledley always gets by far the loudest cheer. And rightfully so.

 

[Flatters]

all the home nations made the same mistake, pushed the ball out unfortuantly with robbo the players in front of him are to slow to react, especially for spurs

My dad always makes that point, and it's a prety damn good one.

 

[Defsta]

keep him in goal and stop jumping on his back for every goal that is conceded, every keeper makes mistakes just robbo can not move past his because the media and stupid fans wont let him

Seconded :up:

 

[ever]

My dad always makes that point, and it's a prety damn good one.

*in deep voice*

jack i am your father

 

[DoublePivot]

He's a nice guy and all, but anyone who doesn't see that it's more than confidence; it's his immobility; is letting loyalty cloud the obvious. He's total crap. And he needs a new start. Bench him and sell him. We need a replacement. Sorry, but a keeper is never going to come back from such a fall from grace as this without real change. He will never regain for as one of us. Sad but true.

In fact, I fear that England and Spurs insistence on sticking by him, will only cause real damage. He could well end up a substance abuser to deal with the repeated failure and the pressures it puts on his life. For his own sake, it might be necessary to allow him to fade into obscurity.

 

[SpurSince57]

His confidence is shot to bits. We're going to have to endure his very public "finding his form". In the meantime, our season could be pissed up the wall.

I'll always support him when he's playing in the shirt but will grumble away while he keeps clowning around.

Hopefully Sunderland get relegated and we'll make a bid for Gordon.

Yet Gordon's made his share of errors this season. Last night he too saved but failed to hang on to the ball or push it behind, but that 'mistake' went unpunished, and if that had been Robbo for both Georgia's goals, particularly the first, big questions would have been asked.

It's one thing blaming Robbo when he is at fault, another entirely when there's been little or anothing he can do. I've seen one post blaming him for Sunderland's goal and another blaming him for the ones Everton scored. Whilst you can argue the toss over whether he should have come out to claim the ball for the first, the fact is that Big Tone was doing his bemused basketball player impersonation again and lost Lescott. Exactly how he was meant to save the second when he was in the back of the net escapes me, unless he was supposed to dash twelve yards off his line and chase the cross, and as for the third…

And as A&C says, we just have to be consistent if Cerny takes over. It wasn't surprising to see the 'unsighted' defence being trotted out for Anorthosis' goal at the Lane. This may well have been the case, but it would certainly not have been allowed for Robinson.

I'd say he has to take full blame for four goals so far, which leaves fourteen he could have done little or nothing about, or for which the main share of blame has to go elsewhere.

 

[llamafarmer]

I think I'd like to see him dropped by England. That number one shirt is a poison chalice!

I agree that if we (Spurs) drop him that'll be his confidence shot to pieces, maybe for good.

 

[ever]

so to get his confidence he gets dropped, how is that going to help, shirley thats going to do more damage.

the majority of our goals have come from long distance (midfield allowing the shot) or from set pieces (defenders not staying with their man), the goals that have come from a spilt ball (except the villa ones) could have been picked up if a defender was paying attention and stayed goal side of the attack, therefore the spilt ball could be cleared instead of tucked away

im not saying he isnt blameless but everyone is putting it down to him where in truth it could and should be placed on the bajority of our team

 

[teddyboy]

I don’t get it; some of you are insinuating that we should get off his back and support him through thick and thin.

However I would argue that it’s not a question of not supporting him for me, far from it in fact. My concern is what’s best for Robbo, I want him to pull through just as much as the next man, but I can’t help but think the longer the public flogging goes on, the worse it’s going to get for him.

There must be a point where someone acts in the interests of Robbo. I don’t believe just letting him work through this on the pitch and in the media lime light is gonna help him one bit.

 

[teddyboy]

so to get his confidence he gets dropped, how is that going to help, shirley thats going to do more damage.

the majority of our goals have come from long distance (midfield allowing the shot) or from set pieces (defenders not staying with their man), the goals that have come from a spilt ball (except the villa ones) could have been picked up if a defender was paying attention and stayed goal side of the attack, therefore the spilt ball could be cleared instead of tucked away

im not saying he isnt blameless but everyone is putting it down to him where in truth it could and should be placed on the bajority of our team

Or he stays in goal and keeps making clangers....??

 

[Stoof]

He reminds me of Ian Botham.

Brilliant before he was captain, indifferent as captain, before finally recapturing the glory afterwards. Now replace 'captain' [in Robbo's situation] with being England's keeper and I wouldn't be surprised if similar happened.

What llama said could be spot on. Let him concentrate on doing well for us, without having the burden of England and the tabloid hacks that attempt to express their thoughts.

I love Robbo, and I think he's quality - but he needs to get back to doing what he's good at, and that's being a damn fine keeper. And I think by concentrating on Spurs and our season could be the way for that to happen.

 

[ever]

what we need is for james to start ballsing up to take the attention away from robbo, however the media then just thinks its kinda comical when james does it, but with robbo its a national tragedy.

you have to support him, hes a spurs player, theres no point in booing him when things are a little hairy but sing his name when things are good, he will come good again, its just going to take a bit of patience, hes made some pretty amazing saves this season but these are forgotten about instantly

ps i heart robbo

 

[PLTuck]

my personal thoughts, for his own sake, is that he needs to break a toe or something. Pick up an injury that won't be serious, but will keep him out for 6 weeks or so.

He also needs either Ledley back to full fitness, or us to spend big on a quality experienced defender in Jan. He isn't getting enough protection at the moment, as ever said, our defence far too often stands around and watches him make the mistake, without reacting to it.

I still have faith that he'll come good. I'm just a little worried it may not be with Spurs. Sometimes, only a fresh start somewhere else can get you out of a 'rut'

 

[tototoner]

didn't watch the england game or goals, how much at fault was robbo for the russian 2nd or were the defenders ball watching?

 

[teddyboy]

what we need is for james to start ballsing up to take the attention away from robbo, however the media then just thinks its kinda comical when james does it, but with robbo its a national tragedy.

you have to support him, hes a spurs player, theres no point in booing him when things are a little hairy but sing his name when things are good, he will come good again, its just going to take a bit of patience, hes made some pretty amazing saves this season but these are forgotten about instantly

ps i heart robbo

I think you have summed it up nicely Ever, he needs to be away from all the attention and the only way that’s gonna happen is if he disappears for couple of weeks, some sort of spurs safe house if you like…

 

[PLTuck]

didn't watch the england game or goals, how much at fault was robbo for the russian 2nd or were the defenders ball watching?

The shot was across him, and he made a decent save but pushed the ball straight out.

BUT Judas & Lescott were about 2 feet apart, stood watching, and allowed the Russian guy to get between them for thr rebound.

IMO all 3 are as to blame as each other.

Rooney should also shoulder some criticism. Absolutely no need to foul his man (although it didn't even look like a foul to me, can see why the ref might have given it).

Overall it was a Spurs performance. Played quite well for 65 mins, went 1 up, started getting indecisive / fancy dan, screwed up and gifted 2 goals.

 

[ever]

i still dont believe that dropping him or hiding him or anything will help though, that will just give him more tome to dwell on mistakes, footballs play on confidence, his is obviously low and the only way for that to improve is by playing and playing well, a clean sheet against newcastle will be a decent start.

i think a centre back pairing of dawson and kaboul is a huge problem, both are too inexperienced to be leading the back and i dont even think kaboul speaks english, we need another naybet to help them grow, it did wonders for king (also one of robbos best seasons for us) all of those add to uncertainty in the box which is easily capitalised upon for opposing teams

 

[alfiespurs]

Well will we learn the guy is a complete liability ! Bring in Radek ... or better still look for a new keeper in the January Sales ... I hear Lemon from Le'Arse will be on the market ...

 

[teddyboy]

i still dont believe that dropping him or hiding him or anything will help though, that will just give him more tome to dwell on mistakes, footballs play on confidence, his is obviously low and the only way for that to improve is by playing and playing well, a clean sheet against newcastle will be a decent start.

i think a centre back pairing of dawson and kaboul is a huge problem, both are too inexperienced to be leading the back and i dont even think kaboul speaks english, we need another naybet to help them grow, it did wonders for king (also one of robbos best seasons for us) all of those add to uncertainty in the box which is easily capitalised upon for opposing teams

I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this Ever, but I do hope what ever the coaching staff and him do I hope it works and works soon…

 

[teddyboy]

Well will we learn the guy is a complete liability ! Bring in Radek ... or better still look for a new keeper in the January Sales ... I hear Lemon from Le'Arse will be on the market ...

No thanks...