v Newcastle (H) Ratings

[jonathanhotspur]

And Sigurdsson can fuck off as well. Completed 10/11 passes in 69 minutes. 2 of them were in the final third.

 

[Mr Pink]

And Sigurdsson can fuck off as well. Completed 10/11 passes in 69 minutes. 2 of them were in the final third.

Really? Wholly fuck, that's incredibly poor given our possession stats and the areas of the pitch we had the possession.

 

[only1waddle]

And Sigurdsson can fuck off as well. Completed 10/11 passes in 69 minutes. 2 of them were in the final third.

That is pretty poor even by Sigurdsson's standards.

 

[beats1]

Einstein: Insanity is "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Sorry AVB, but you keep putting out what is effectively the same line up, but you're expecting something magical to happen? Time to mix it up a little bit maybe?

You wait and see one day we are going to get lucky

 

[mattyspurs]

And what makes it even stranger is that we didn't pay up for Benteke.

I've been saying this for weeks P. It's so frustrating.

You can really understand Levys reluctance to pay high fees in the past, and maybe again in the future.

Bentley - I know it's a long time ago, but...
Bent - Same as above
Paulinho - Early days I know, but blows really hot and cold
Soldado - I'm gutted, I love this player, but he is not for for AVB's "System" I really hope we don;t ruin this player because anyone who watched him in Spain, know that he really is the real deal. But all the time he's not getting service, or we are going to continue to play the way tyhat we do, it's not going to work out.
Lamela - The most baffling one for me. Today should have been the day, and I know that we are trying to get him accustomed to the Country and the PL, Levy is not going to want £30m sitting on the bench for too long not getting a game

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Really? Wholly fuck, that's incredibly poor given our possession stats and the areas of the pitch we had the possession.

Staggering. I knew his was an anaemic performance but I didn't realise just how bad it was.

He played 5 forward passes. 0/2 crosses. 0/1 take-ons. 0/1 tackles. 0 interceptions. 0 blocks. 3 shots (1 on target).

That is pretty poor even by Sigurdsson's standards.

The real POTL. I've had enough of him.

 

[ethanedwards]

If we continue to play this system, like you say, we'll need that type.

I'm not sure how Soldado is going to do long term, if we continue like this its going to be difficult all round. Soldado needs proper service into the box, he's a natural finisher - we just aren't providing him with enough of those types of chances - and I don't know if we'll be able to playing the way we do in this set up.

Personally I'd go all out for Benteke in January, and off load a few who should be surplus to requirements.

Still can't fathom what happened in the summer with Benteke, I doubt if Daniel would give AVB any sizeable amounts of dosh to spend in January.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

Friedel 6 Lloris would have charged out at Remy and either prevented the goal or conceded a penalty and been sent off. Friedel is Friedel. He played pretty well, but he isn't Lloris.

Walker 6 Competent, except for two occasions when he was caught the wrong side of an attacker

Dawson 6

Chiriches 6.5

Vertonghen 6 I thought he was uninvolved in attack for most of the game, which you can't do if you're playing as a fullback at home - defended well enough

Paulinho 6 Better than recently, but still rather uninspired

Dembélé 4.5 Nothing went right for him - too languid and constantly hustled off the ball - it was a relief to see him go off at half time

Sigurdsson 5.5 No particular memorable contribution, nor any major mistakes, but didn't get involved enough in the action

Eriksen 7 I thought he made many of our best chances and was constructive throughout - pity about the corners and free kicks

Townsend 5.5 Promised much, delivered ... a couple of decent crosses - Newcastle had two men on him every time he got the ball.

Soldado 6 Lots of good movement and a good selection of chances - would have scored a goal or two if Krul had not made a Faustian pact this morning



Sandro 8 Excellent performance - pity he couldn't play 90 minutes, as Dembélé and Paulinho do not a good double pivot make - they try to take up the same spaces and can't decide who goes and who drops back - it really should be one from Dembélé and Paulinho and one from Sandro and Capoue

Kaboul 7 Much better than against Sheriff, anchored the defence well and made some good runs forward with the ball

Defoe 4.5 Again, couldn't get anywhere near the ball - there is just no point in sending Defoe on against a drawn-back 9 man defence, especially one that is defending a 1 goal lead, because he gets crowded out and can't work any space - Defoe needs to run at the defence and, with our compressed midfield and high defensive line against a massed defence, he can't get anywhere near either the ball or the goal - that makes his presence pointless and makes what is now a succession of toothless performances not really his fault



When you have 30 shots and 14 of them are on target, you can expect to score 2-3 goals. Krul was the reason we didn't win that game easily. There really isn't much more I can say about it.

 

[dbspurs]

Still only 5 points off top so not worth topping myself just yet!

Should be top! Losing to fucking West Ham and Newcastle at home in the space of a month is poor.

Sandro/Capoue Dembele
Lamela Holtby Eriksen

AVB needs to get the midfield sorted out or I can see a few more home results like this before the season is over.

 

[TheGreenLily]

Staggering. I knew his was an anaemic performance but I didn't realise just how bad it was.

He played 5 forward passes. 0/2 crosses. 0/1 take-ons. 0/1 tackles. 0 interceptions. 0 blocks. 3 shots (1 on target).


The real POTL. I've had enough of him.

 

[The Apprentice]

Come on lads, chins up. it's only City and United in our next two league games.

 

[ItsBoris]

That is pretty poor even by Sigurdsson's standards.

Yet he will start the next league game probably.

Friedel - 4 Does nothing.
Walker - 7
Dawson - 5
Chiriches - 6
Verts - 6
Paulinho - 6
Dembele - 5
Sandro - 8
Townsend - 5
Eriksen - 7
Sigurdsson - 4
Soldado - 6

 

[Legend10]

Staggering. I knew his was an anaemic performance but I didn't realise just how bad it was.

He played 5 forward passes. 0/2 crosses. 0/1 take-ons. 0/1 tackles. 0 interceptions. 0 blocks. 3 shots (1 on target).


The real POTL. I've had enough of him.

2 of those shots were free kicks and I think 1 of the crosses was a corner.

Lol, I wonder if he's knackerd!

 

[Gedson100]

Staggering. I knew his was an anaemic performance but I didn't realise just how bad it was.

He played 5 forward passes. 0/2 crosses. 0/1 take-ons. 0/1 tackles. 0 interceptions. 0 blocks. 3 shots (1 on target).


The real POTL. I've had enough of him.

Bloody hell, that graphic makes Lennon's last couple look dynamic!
What we need is a dynamic, skilful winger / forward with a point to prove, but where does such a player reside?

Woe is us...

 

[felmani26]

Bloody hell, that graphic makes Lennon's last couple look dynamic!
What we need is a dynamic, skilful winger / forward with a point to prove, but where does such a player reside?

Woe is us...

Funny, that could describe Chadli as well.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Aaahhh….football, you cruel mistress.

I think one has to say that AVB is to some degree making a rod for his own back with some of his selection choices. No Capoue ? Not even on the bench ? So when you need to try and make something creative happen you have Sandro as the cm option ? Dembele was having one of those games, getting tagged by a busy tenacious pressing team too often, but just have a word, leave him on and don't waste a sub bringing on a defensive cm. Like taking a sledgehammer out of the toolbox when what you need is an alan key. And why is Lloris ok to play at Goodison and has served the mandatory 5 day layoff, only for AVb to bow to media pressure and leave him out today.

I understand why Lamela is on the bench, he put an inordinate amount of effort into thursday's game, but the decision to bring Defoe on was fucking lunacy and frankly, tactically, piss poor, of the pissest poorest order. Lamela might just have provided some quality and he certainly wouldn't have been the irritating footballing vacuum that Defoe is.

Today was one of those very frustrating days. The one thing you can't do in these circumstances is shoot yourself up the arse, and we generally don't, but today we had a really piss poor 10 minutes which started with Walker dribbling the ball away and Remi being put through and finished via Dembele fucking around, Paulinho being a bit gay, Friedel being fucking Friedel and Remi punishing our centrifugal clusterfuck into a goal that an obdurate (and not untalented) Newcastle team could dig in even deeper to protect.

Some usual stuff then abounded. Good effort, lots of ball, total command of the game, reasonable approach play, some actual decent chances, some wasteful decisions and execution in the final third, some lack of the rub, some predictable cm play, Townsend being direct and very occasionally created mischief but also making some really poor decisions to shoot, neither fb providing much quality attacking…have I missed anything ?

For me, there is no other way for us to play. Nothing else I've ever seen us attempt is any more fruitful or entertaining - I know some won't share that, and understand why - I just hope that time will bring more cohesion to our attacking play and that we improve as we/AVB gets the balance right and players get used to each other and become better integrated.

We have to accept a truth, and that is that the quality of opposition we now face week in week out has improved considerably. It's why Chelsea were a ludicrous ref's decision away from losing at home to West Brom, why ManC are getting beat at Sunderland and why ManU are currently part of the mid table melaise.

We think one summer's transfer window is going to miraculously inject what Arsenal, ManU and Chelsea have been constructing for a decade (and more) or what ManC have spent nearly four or five times as much assembling.

In the words of the great David Soul, Don't Give Up on us Baby.

Individual utterances:

Friedel - Was worried, like all of us I guess, as soon as I saw his name on the team sheet. It's not his fault they created two 1v1's but we all know Lloris would have been on that through ball much quicker. Could have maybe made all the difference ?

Walker - A fairly typical Walker performance and depending on what side of the Walker fence you sit that is either a brilliant thing or a not brilliant thing.

Dawson - A couple of moments but OK apart from that.

Kaboul - OK.

Vertonghen - I don't think he delivered anything of tangible quality in an attacking sense. Also had a couple of moments, but was also mainly just OK.

Paulinho - Has got to do better for the goal. Gets himself into the box well, which we need, but some of his general play is very rudimentary.

Dembele - We've seen this before from him. A really poor start, pressed out of his stride and caught dwelling. Stared the malaise that ultimately led to the goal. I would still rather we kept him on in this game than brought on Sandro.

Sigurdsson - one of those very annoying days when he seems to too much dazed and confused and not enough assertive stuff.

Eriksen - Tried hard, I haven't looked but he probably saw more ball then most, but was ultimately a bit disappointing, as were a couple of his decisions and actions. Worked the keeper but really should have scored.

Townsend - The instinct/intelligence bias is swinging way too much toward the instinct for me. There's no point being direct if you are just directly wasteful. And defensively he is fucking lax and lazy.

Soldado - He's trying hard, nice dummy for Eriksen's chance, but I wouldn't mind seeing Adebayor have a go next game. On days like today he also needs to work their defenders a bit better when they have the ball.

Sandro - did ok, but not what we needed today really.

Kaboul - OK

Defoe - He's an amoeba and with him we suffer amoebic dysentery.


AVB - Getting the selection and subs right won't solve everything, but it will help. Needs to get Townsend and Soldado pressing better.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Why did Vlad and Moose get subbed ?

Injured ?

 

[Messy11]

Soldado and Sandro were good, everyone else was average/shit.

AVB would have gotten a big fat 0 if i could be bothered to do scores.

Not playing a holding midfielder.
Not playing Lamela
Not playing our best defender.
Bringing on fucking DEFOE and playing him alongside Soldado.

Absolute shambles.

Agree completely. Two games this season at home we have suffered for not playing a holding midfielder. We seem to be missing the fact that we need balance, which Sandro / Capoue provide. The front five should be more than able to create the chances, which the 2nd half proved.

 

[CowInAComa]

Aaahhh….football, you cruel mistress.

I think one has to say that AVB is to some degree making a rod for his own back with some of his selection choices. No Capoue ? Not even on the bench ? So when you need to try and make something creative happen you have Sandro as the cm option ? Dembele was having one of those games, getting tagged by a busy tenacious pressing team too often, but just have a word, leave him on and don't waste a sub bringing on a defensive cm. Like taking a sledgehammer out of the toolbox when what you need is an alan key. And why is Lloris ok to play at Goodison and has served the mandatory 5 day layoff, only for AVb to bow to media pressure and leave him out today.

I understand why Lamela is on the bench, he put an inordinate amount of effort into thursday's game, but the decision to bring Defoe on was fucking lunacy and frankly, tactically, piss poor, of the pissest poorest order. Lamela might just have provided some quality and he certainly wouldn't have been the irritating footballing vacuum that Defoe is.

Today was one of those very frustrating days. The one thing you can't do in these circumstances is shoot yourself up the arse, and we generally don't, but today we had a really piss poor 10 minutes which started with Walker dribbling the ball away and Remi being put through and finished via Dembele fucking around, Paulinho being a bit gay, Friedel being fucking Friedel and Remi punishing our centrifugal clusterfuck into a goal that an obdurate (and not untalented) Newcastle team could dig in even deeper to protect.

Some usual stuff then abounded. Good effort, lots of ball, total command of the game, reasonable approach play, some actual decent chances, some wasteful decisions and execution in the final third, some lack of the rub, some predictable cm play, Townsend being direct and very occasionally created mischief but also making some really poor decisions to shoot, neither fb providing much quality attacking…have I missed anything ?

For me, there is no other way for us to play. Nothing else I've ever seen us attempt is any more fruitful or entertaining - I know some won't share that, and understand why - I just hope that time will bring more cohesion to our attacking play and that we improve as we/AVB gets the balance right and players get used to each other and become better integrated.

We have to accept a truth, and that is that the quality of opposition we now face week in week out has improved considerably. It's why Chelsea were a ludicrous ref's decision away from losing at home to West Brom, why ManC are getting beat at Sunderland and why ManU are currently part of the mid table melaise.

We think one summer's transfer window is going to miraculously inject what Arsenal, ManU and Chelsea have been constructing for a decade (and more) or what ManC have spent nearly four or five times as much assembling.

In the words of the great David Soul, Don't Give Up on us Baby.

Individual utterances:

Friedel - Was worried, like all of us I guess, as soon as I saw his name on the team sheet. It's not his fault they created two 1v1's but we all know Lloris would have been on that through ball much quicker. Could have maybe made all the difference ?

Walker - A fairly typical Walker performance and depending on what side of the Walker fence you sit that is either a brilliant thing or a not brilliant thing.

Dawson - A couple of moments but OK apart from that.

Kaboul - OK.

Vertonghen - I don't think he delivered anything of tangible quality in an attacking sense. Also had a couple of moments, but was also mainly just OK.

Paulinho - Has got to do better for the goal. Gets himself into the box well, which we need, and did a great dummy to set up Eriksen, but some of his general play is very rudimentary.

Dembele - We've seen this before from him. A really poor start, pressed out of his stride and caught dwelling. Stared the malaise that ultimately led to the goal. I would still rather we kept him on in this game than brought on Sandro.

Sigurdsson - one of those very annoying days when he seems to too much dazed and confused and not enough assertive stuff.

Eriksen - Tried hard, I haven't looked but he probably saw more ball then most, but was ultimately a bit disappointing, as were a couple of his decisions and actions. Worked the keeper but really should have scored.

Townsend - The instinct/intelligence bias is swinging way too much toward the instinct for me. There's no point being direct if you are just directly wasteful. And defensively he is fucking lax and lazy.

Soldado - He's trying hard but I wouldn't mind seeing Adebayor have a go next game. On days like today he also needs to work their defenders better when they have the ball.

Sandro - did ok, but not what we needed today really.

Kaboul - OK

Defoe - He's an amoeba and with him we suffer amoebic dysentery.


AVB - Getting the selection and subs right won't solve everything, but it will help. Needs to get Townsend and Soldado pressing better.

I enjoy your posts. Sometimes I agree.

But your opinion on Sandro here are just lunacy. I thought his introduction and tenacity was the springboard for our second half display. I thought he was absolutely immense.

I think youre right that Lloris would have made the difference with the balls over the top though. Dont understand the high line when Friedel is in goal, its basically sticking your head in the lions mouth

 

[CowInAComa]

Why did Vlad and Moose get subbed ?

Injured ?

Vlad smashed his nose in. Dembele was a bit cack.