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FreddieYid

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Another picture of this has come out, we had similar around this time last season with the current home shirt.
That's the current Nike template, can't imagine next seasons kits will be the same. The grey pinstripe and cockerel is horrendous.
 

guiltyparty

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That's the current Nike template, can't imagine next seasons kits will be the same. The grey pinstripe and cockerel is horrendous.

AIA in blue again :rolleyes:

Surely that buries any suggestion it's legit? I hope so, as conceptually it makes very little sense. Not modern, not traditional, looks like a garish 90s pastiche

Also the writing under the cockerel looks amateurish.

Aside from that tho... (y)
 
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Pellshek

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For fuck's sake. Our kit is a white shirt with navy shorts. End of. It's not a white & navy shirt with navy shorts. If manufacturers and the club want to play around with the thing now and then by adding flourishes or colour, ok, fine, but that's not the same as the creeping institutionalisation of navy into our shirt. It's becoming the norm, and that's total bullshit.
 

shockTHFC

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Another picture of this has come out, we had similar around this time last season with the current home shirt.

I don't know exactly how to explain it well but you can tell the material that shirt is cheap and nothing like what Nike's shirts are usually made of. Also, the blue AIA, the giant watermark, and the "Tottenham Hotspur" underneath the badge are further evidence that this is a cheap fake.
 

JonnySpurs

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People need to chill out. This is almost certainly a mock shirt that has been made up in the same way as any other fake shirt that you see on market stalls in any every country around Europe.

I'm a big fan of Nike but I have to agree about the template situation and similarities between kits. They need to cut that shit out. It's nothing short of lazy. At the moment Adidas are leading the way on original kit design and have produced some beauties this season. With that said, Nike have always been very good at what they do and hopefully next season they will drop the template thing and start designing original kits per team. I'm excited and will like whatever we end up with I expect but do hope Nike up their game a bit.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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For fuck's sake. Our kit is a white shirt with navy shorts. End of. It's not a white & navy shirt with navy shorts. If manufacturers and the club want to play around with the thing now and then by adding flourishes or colour, ok, fine, but that's not the same as the creeping institutionalisation of navy into our shirt. It's becoming the norm, and that's total bullshit.
Maybe you should have a look through the historical kits.
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Tottenham_Hotspur/Tottenham_Hotspur.htm
 

Pellshek

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Maybe you should have a look through the historical kits.
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Tottenham_Hotspur/Tottenham_Hotspur.htm


The chart shows that our shirts were white for 106 years between 1899 and 2005.

Then, between 2005 - 2016, it started featuring significant amounts of navy: to be exact, in 5 out of those 10 seasons, including in each of the last 3 seasons in a row, up to today. Those last 3 seasons are the first time such a sequence of white/navy has happened in our history.

In other words, the chart confirms my theory about a creeping institutionalisation of navy into our shirt in recent years. What are you seeing that I'm missing?
 

Drink!Drink!

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I don't care who makes the kits...but we haven't had a purely white home shirt since 2012-13*

Sorry we can't go four seasons in a row with experimental home shirts. It destroys our visual identity.

(2013-14 was mostly white but a bit odd)
 

JonnySpurs

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The chart shows that our shirts were white for 106 years between 1899 and 2005.

Then, between 2005 - 2016, it started featuring significant amounts of navy: to be exact, in 5 out of those 10 seasons, including in each of the last 3 seasons in a row, up to today. Those last 3 seasons are the first time such a sequence of white/navy has happened in our history.

In other words, the chart confirms my theory about a creeping institutionalisation of navy into our shirt in recent years. What are you seeing that I'm missing?

I think the fact that you have chosen to ignore the years before 1899 might be the first thing. It doesn't show what kit we had in 1882 when we were founded but I think we can probably assume, based on what we can see between 1883 to 1885 that it was a NAVY top with white shorts and not a white top. In fact, for the first 16 years that Spurs were an established club we had a predominantly Navy kit. I mean, shit, there was even some red in there at one stage!

Granted, through the large majority of our history we've had a white shirt but navy has always been a crucial part of our kit and I'm struggling to understand what you find so apparently abhorrent about it. Equally navy was in the shirt in the 80's and 90's and didn't just start creeping in recently as you suggest.

Every season we have the same group of fans who want the same dull as dishwater, plain white shirt, navy blue shorts and thats it. Any hint of anything else on the shirt seems to send these people into raptures but seriously, how boring would it be to have that SAME look every single season? Yes there have been some lively kits, 09-10, 14-15 being particularly so but all you have to do is look at 04-05, 06-07, 07-08, 11-12, 12-13 and 13-14 to see PLENTY of examples of largely plain white shirts. So come on, if we're honest you're being rather melodramatic aren't you? We have to mix it up a bit and have some kits that feature a bit of design flair and style once in a while or we'd all die of boredom and shirt sales would dry up.

If you still can't handle it then just go find the retro section of the official store and buy a throw back kit. Everyone's happy.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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The chart shows that our shirts were white for 106 years between 1899 and 2005.

Then, between 2005 - 2016, it started featuring significant amounts of navy: to be exact, in 5 out of those 10 seasons, including in each of the last 3 seasons in a row, up to today. Those last 3 seasons are the first time such a sequence of white/navy has happened in our history.

In other words, the chart confirms my theory about a creeping institutionalisation of navy into our shirt in recent years. What are you seeing that I'm missing?

He chart shows that for the first 17 years we didn't once wear either a white shirt or blue shirts let alone both together.
It shows that during your selective period, that on various occasions we wore all white rather than white and blue.
It also simply demonstrates the evolution of both football and fashion. Until kit makers and subsequently, sponsors appeared, football shirts were universally plain.
Now our white shirt needs to be unique from Boltons, Leeds, Reals, Fulhams, Bayerns etc etc etc.
 

Drink!Drink!

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He chart shows that for the first 17 years we didn't once wear either a white shirt or blue shirts let alone both together.
It shows that during your selective period, that on various occasions we wore all white rather than white and blue.
It also simply demonstrates the evolution of both football and fashion. Until kit makers and subsequently, sponsors appeared, football shirts were universally plain.
Now our white shirt needs to be unique from Boltons, Leeds, Reals, Fulhams, Bayerns etc etc etc.

and yet....and yet....Real Madrid don't fanny around with their colours. Their shirts are always predominantly a brilliant white. The kit maker's stripes might move around and change colour but their shirt is always a white shirt. It isn't boring, it isn't something that should be dismissed like some comments on this page. It actually indicates a strong sporting identity.

Whereas by having all kinds of blue, yellow and the sponsor's red on our shirt we are in danger of looking like some tin pot club with similar colours such as Bolton. Our visual identify is a strength, something to be proud of.

Let the marketing men do all kinds of crazy crap on the away shirts, but leave the home shirt be. Thank you.
 

Gb160

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I think the fact that you have chosen to ignore the years before 1899 might be the first thing. It doesn't show what kit we had in 1882 when we were founded but I think we can probably assume, based on what we can see between 1883 to 1885 that it was a NAVY top with white shorts and not a white top. In fact, for the first 16 years that Spurs were an established club we had a predominantly Navy kit. I mean, shit, there was even some red in there at one stage!

Granted, through the large majority of our history we've had a white shirt but navy has always been a crucial part of our kit and I'm struggling to understand what you find so apparently abhorrent about it. Equally navy was in the shirt in the 80's and 90's and didn't just start creeping in recently as you suggest.

Every season we have the same group of fans who want the same dull as dishwater, plain white shirt, navy blue shorts and thats it. Any hint of anything else on the shirt seems to send these people into raptures but seriously, how boring would it be to have that SAME look every single season? Yes there have been some lively kits, 09-10, 14-15 being particularly so but all you have to do is look at 04-05, 06-07, 07-08, 11-12, 12-13 and 13-14 to see PLENTY of examples of largely plain white shirts. So come on, if we're honest you're being rather melodramatic aren't you? We have to mix it up a bit and have some kits that feature a bit of design flair and style once in a while or we'd all die of boredom and shirt sales would dry up.

If you still can't handle it then just go find the retro section of the official store and buy a throw back kit. Everyone's happy.
Pretty sure we had a brown kit very early on.
Pub in Enfield has this big picture thing on the wall with all the kits since we started and theres defo a brown one on there...its horrid.
 

Phischy

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Another picture of this has come out, we had similar around this time last season with the current home shirt.
The cockerel watermark still has the wrong tail which would never ever happen on an official shirt! And the logo stitching, particularly the writing (which we also never have on our shirts) is poor quality. Finally, the hologram bottom left is a copy of the one on Under Armour shirts. Holograms are a brand specific security feature so anything like that on a Nike shirt will be a Nike version. Oh and blue AIA? No chance, any sponsor will have tight brand control. If it's red now, it's staying red. So, this shirt is, on balance 99.99% certain to be a fake.
 
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