The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 9th June 2019

[KILLA_SIN]

It's interesting that those two players are always brought up whenever this discussion comes up. It really sounds like these two deals really stick in the minds of the hierarchy as "we must never do this again"-type deals. But as you say, trying to guarantee that we won't sign players who will be quite so bad is what costs.

I think they get brought up because the forum keeps bringing them up constantly and those shitty N’ jokes.

 

[Spurger King]

I think they get brought up because the forum keeps bringing them up constantly and those shitty N’ jokes.

Definitely this. Frankly I’ve had N’ough of them.

 

[michaelden]

Not rumours but interesting take on what our needs are and options realistically available: -

*Edited: fine but it's not the usual shite, it's worth watching

** Thank you for the warnings

 

[McFlash]

Not rumours but interesting take on what our needs are and options realistically available: -

Delete that dude. No pics or vids allowed in this thread.

 

[mark87]

No no no

Edit you quoting him as it has the video in it.

 

[michaelden]

No no no

You're a shit Santa, it's "Ho Ho Ho!"

 

[McFlash]

Edit you quoting him as it has the video in it.

I realised that I'd initially done that and had a brief panic.

 

[Trix]

Not rumours but interesting take on what our needs are and options realistically available: -

*Edited: fine but it's not the usual shite, it's worth watching

** Thank you for the warnings

Well played on the edit.

The original post was the equivalent of just chilling on a lilo at Amity beach.

 

[TheAmerican]

Bec

There is no team in world football that can predict how good players with potential will go on to be. These two have shown they can cut it at the top level in their respective leagues/European competition. As such the value increases. Do we need a squad full of raw potential or players already playing at a high standard relatively early in their careers?

Would you prefer to do the Bale money(eg) again and live in hope some of them work, or take a far more calculated risk at a higher cost.

Fact is it's not about scouting NDom has been on the radar for ages. It's now that we are confident he won't be another N'Jie or GKN and that's what costs.

I don't understand how some people fail to grasp this. You still hear people complaining about the money potentially being spent on these players. We are at the level where we can (optimistically) afford to play these fees. You are paying for their development at another club. There is a lesser risk of failure with these players, and that comes at a cost. It's just like lottery/gambling, you pay more for better odds and a better chance of return.

 

[Hercules]

The talk is, we are prepared to pay a realistic fee for the RB that meets Poch’s criteria, but forget even spending some of the figures mooted we would ‘have to pay’. Trippier has a lot of interest from suitors, and whilst we would ‘listen’ to offers for Aurier, my personal take on him, is I wouldn’t be surprised if he is still here.

KWP is the interesting one, because Poch really likes him and his attitude, and pre-season will be key subject to formation experiments we will be introducing. It is possible we see if we have the answers within to solve the RB issues.

The ongoing chase of GLC, is down to us will NOT pay 70m plus for him. And the funny thing is, we are the only ones to of bid a extremely good offer thus far. The player by all accounts is very keen, and it may be down to him pushing for it. We do have other options in that department. And the potential conclusion of NDombele, will not deter another offensive creative midfield acquisition, if it is not to be GLC.

The Toby situation is very interesting, because we want him shifted, and if he goes we will bring in.

We are relaxed on the striker-front, and will deal in that area, but not seen as the high priority, Sess, MDombele and GLC. If we cannot deal on GLC, there will be another. Those are our target areas.

The third GK, is a weird one, as I don’t rate Alfie Whiteman, so possible movement in/out in that department. Do not rule anything out, even a loan. That is why it is a funny one.

Talk within is CE has agreed 4 year deal, with realistic clauses, but he wants to wait until pre-season to see if his option/s resurface. If not he commits.

 

[hellava_tough]

The talk is, we are prepared to pay a realistic fee for the RB that meets Poch’s criteria, but forget even spending some of the figures mooted we would ‘have to pay’. Trippier has a lot of interest from suitors, and whilst we would ‘listen’ to offers for Aurier, my personal take on him, is I wouldn’t be surprised if he is still here.

KWP is the interesting one, because Poch really likes him and his attitude, and pre-season will be key subject to formation experiments we will be introducing. It is possible we see if we have the answers within to solve the RB issues.

The ongoing chase of GLC, is down to us will NOT pay 70m plus for him. And the funny thing is, we are the only ones to of bid a extremely good offer thus far. The player by all accounts is very keen, and it may be down to him pushing for it. We do have other options in that department. And the potential conclusion of NDombele, will not deter another offensive creative midfield acquisition, if it is not to be GLC.

The Toby situation is very interesting, because we want him shifted, and if he goes we will bring in.

We are relaxed on the striker-front, and will deal in that area, but not seen as the high priority, Sess, MDombele and GLC. If we cannot deal on GLC, there will be another. Those are our target areas.

The third GK, is a weird one, as I don’t rate Alfie Whiteman, so possible movement in/out in that department. Do not rule anything out, even a loan. That is why it is a funny one.

Talk within is CE has agreed 4 year deal, with realistic clauses, but he wants to wait until pre-season to see if his option/s resurface. If not he commits.

Thanks for the update as always Herc

Sounds good overall and also on the NDombele deal

Here's hoping...

 

[Stamford]

Thanks for the info. My biggest worry after last summer was the amount of change at once that would take place this year.

 

[COYS Forever]

Talk within is CE has agreed 4 year deal

Cheers son’s fucking ecstatic. Nice one.

 

[S17PUR]

You'd think we'd have seen enough from KWP to know if he has what it takes to be our first choice RB by now. The lad has been with us for 6 years. I'd be very disappointed if we didn't upgrade the RB position personally.

It's also weird that we want to shift our best defender. I know there was the stuff behind closed doors that happened, but his performances last season were still great and if he's willing to stay and commit to a new contract then we'd be foolish to get rid. I suspect his reluctance to agree a new deal is the reason we're pushing for a transfer now though which does make sense assuming we get a decent fee.

Based on Herc's info, I find it tough to see the GLC deal coming off though. I think it's more likely we end up with a cheaper alternative like Dani Ceballos or even Tielemans, unless Eriksen leaves in which case maybe we'll push the boat out for GLC.

 

[cliff jones]

cheers Herc. nD first. Then AM- two of CE/GLC/another. After that I don't really care. Llorente in attack, allez allez allez!

 

[King of Otters]

All pretty positive. Thanks Herc.

 

[Guntz]

The talk is, we are prepared to pay a realistic fee for the RB that meets Poch’s criteria, but forget even spending some of the figures mooted we would ‘have to pay’. Trippier has a lot of interest from suitors, and whilst we would ‘listen’ to offers for Aurier, my personal take on him, is I wouldn’t be surprised if he is still here.

KWP is the interesting one, because Poch really likes him and his attitude, and pre-season will be key subject to formation experiments we will be introducing. It is possible we see if we have the answers within to solve the RB issues.

The ongoing chase of GLC, is down to us will NOT pay 70m plus for him. And the funny thing is, we are the only ones to of bid a extremely good offer thus far. The player by all accounts is very keen, and it may be down to him pushing for it. We do have other options in that department. And the potential conclusion of NDombele, will not deter another offensive creative midfield acquisition, if it is not to be GLC.

The Toby situation is very interesting, because we want him shifted, and if he goes we will bring in.

We are relaxed on the striker-front, and will deal in that area, but not seen as the high priority, Sess, MDombele and GLC. If we cannot deal on GLC, there will be another. Those are our target areas.

The third GK, is a weird one, as I don’t rate Alfie Whiteman, so possible movement in/out in that department. Do not rule anything out, even a loan. That is why it is a funny one.

Talk within is CE has agreed 4 year deal, with realistic clauses, but he wants to wait until pre-season to see if his option/s resurface. If not he commits.

If we add those 3, plus keep Eriksen we'll be right up there next season.

Add a RB too and they may as well give us the league now

 

[dwicker7]

You'd think we'd have seen enough from KWP to know if he has what it takes to be our first choice RB by now. The lad has been with us for 6 years. I'd be very disappointed if we didn't upgrade the RB position personally.

It's also weird that we want to shift our best defender. I know there was the stuff behind closed doors that happened, but his performances last season were still great and if he's willing to stay and commit to a new contract then we'd be foolish to get rid. I suspect his reluctance to agree a new deal is the reason we're pushing for a transfer now though which does make sense assuming we get a decent fee.

Based on Herc's info, I find it tough to see the GLC deal coming off though. I think it's more likely we end up with a cheaper alternative like Dani Ceballos or even Tielemans, unless Eriksen leaves in which case maybe we'll push the boat out for GLC.

Given the role wing backs are given in this modern style, I think they require more time than most to adapt to match level intensity in their role. Even at Aurier’s age, Walker and Rose were still considered mediocre and all potential, and for that reason I think we should stay patient with KWP’s development.

Also Herc’s Toby update pairs nicely with the Joachim Andersen quotes, though we may miss that opportunity if it takes too long to move Toby out.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

The talk is, we are prepared to pay a realistic fee for the RB that meets Poch’s criteria, but forget even spending some of the figures mooted we would ‘have to pay’. Trippier has a lot of interest from suitors, and whilst we would ‘listen’ to offers for Aurier, my personal take on him, is I wouldn’t be surprised if he is still here.

KWP is the interesting one, because Poch really likes him and his attitude, and pre-season will be key subject to formation experiments we will be introducing. It is possible we see if we have the answers within to solve the RB issues.

The ongoing chase of GLC, is down to us will NOT pay 70m plus for him. And the funny thing is, we are the only ones to of bid a extremely good offer thus far. The player by all accounts is very keen, and it may be down to him pushing for it. We do have other options in that department. And the potential conclusion of NDombele, will not deter another offensive creative midfield acquisition, if it is not to be GLC.

The Toby situation is very interesting, because we want him shifted, and if he goes we will bring in.

We are relaxed on the striker-front, and will deal in that area, but not seen as the high priority, Sess, MDombele and GLC. If we cannot deal on GLC, there will be another. Those are our target areas.

The third GK, is a weird one, as I don’t rate Alfie Whiteman, so possible movement in/out in that department. Do not rule anything out, even a loan. That is why it is a funny one.

Talk within is CE has agreed 4 year deal, with realistic clauses, but he wants to wait until pre-season to see if his option/s resurface. If not he commits.

You're the real MVP. Cheers for the info as always Herc

 

[spurfetto]

Cheers herc. The sooner we start making some signings the better