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rightwayup

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Fair play to Charlie Dean in the RHF final today. Jokingly pretended she was going to mankad Lauren Winfield-Hill in her first over. ?
 

JCRD

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Im not a cricket purist obviously but if its not against the rules and we are only talking about the spirit of the game etc - is a non batter allowed to leave the crease before the ball is bowled? Because how I see it, and I dont like the 'mankad' as they call it, but if the non batter leaves their crease before the ball is bowled, then isnt this just opportunistic? There is an advantage their for the non batter if we say, this cant happen.

Im just playing devils advocate but essentially arent they both in the wrong - the non batter and the bowler?
 

Chezaspur

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If the non batter is constantly gaining an advantage by moving out of the crease, the bowler should issue a warning that if it continues they will apply the Mankad.
 

JCRD

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If the non batter is constantly gaining an advantage by moving out of the crease, the bowler should issue a warning that if it continues they will apply the Mankad.

Is that not the job of the umpire more so than the bowler though?
 

Barmy_in_Palmy

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My 2 cents on the mankad business.

this is why everyone else hate England when it comes to sport. India followed the rules, England didnt. England whinge that’s it’s not fair and isn’t very nice, fuck nice, if it’s in the rules then it’s perfectly acceptable.

and if England got India out the same way the English press would be slapping English players on the back saying how very clever of them.

India will not come to rue this, to regret this. They’ll move on and forget about it. England will spend the next 10 years sulking about it.
 

max cady

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Was it fair on us when Leicester had their penalty retake because Hugo moved early............the rules are the rules
 

midoshairband

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So here are the ECB proposals to revolutionise our domestic and international calendar and to make major changes to the way we manage our cricket. What do you guys think?


Point 3 is an interesting point, and sounds like something that should be a no-brainer. it's a similar thought process to what began to happen in NZ cricket a while back, and it's worked remarkably well for them. getting all aspects of county cricket and england cricket pulling in the same direction should be a given, but it's currently not.

using a kookaburra ball is also pretty interesting. allied with instructions on pitch preparation (3) could mean we produce bowlers more suited to playing outside of England than we currently do. same for point 7.

undortunately, the counties have themselves and their members to look after, so there is little chance of the changes to the schedule going through, although the proposals to me sound pretty good. still heavily centred around giving the 100 prime slots, but the ECB are never going to admit defeat on that front.
 

UncleBuck

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What a game at Edgbaston, statue time for Liam Norwalk with 9-62 to send Yorkshire down!
Who said county cricket was dead, just a shame I had to watch it through you tube!
 

funkycoldmedina

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What a game at Edgbaston, statue time for Liam Norwalk with 9-62 to send Yorkshire down!
Who said county cricket was dead, just a shame I had to watch it through you tube!
Absolutely gutted Yorkshire went down but our batting has been flakey for a few seasons now
 

Retoanderik88

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My 2 cents on the mankad business.

this is why everyone else hate England when it comes to sport. India followed the rules, England didnt. England whinge that’s it’s not fair and isn’t very nice, fuck nice, if it’s in the rules then it’s perfectly acceptable.

and if England got India out the same way the English press would be slapping English players on the back saying how very clever of them.

India will not come to rue this, to regret this. They’ll move on and forget about it. England will spend the next 10 years sulking about it.
As an umpire you're taught to encourage the captains to keep up the spirit of the game. The side I see (mens and womens) do this the least is the Indian team. Shouting and pointing at umpires, advancing during appeals, appealing without looking then incredulous when its not given, I've even seen them ask for it to be given out so the other team can review if they've run out (shout out to tim payne for the same thing).

Im not surprised that this is the response of the indian public, or the british public. Two different attitudes to the same game.
 

PCozzie

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Excellent win for England tonight that sets up an exciting decider for the series v Pakistan. Can't say I'm T20s biggest fan, but I think because there's no Tests or ODIs this feels more like a standalone event. International T20s always feel like a pointless add-on to a series usually, but a 7 match series in Pakistan has been really good.

Big shout out to the guy in the crowd who won the microwave too, really gave it a proper 80s game show feel.
 

Spurslove

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Point 3 is an interesting point, and sounds like something that should be a no-brainer. it's a similar thought process to what began to happen in NZ cricket a while back, and it's worked remarkably well for them. getting all aspects of county cricket and england cricket pulling in the same direction should be a given, but it's currently not.

using a kookaburra ball is also pretty interesting. allied with instructions on pitch preparation (3) could mean we produce bowlers more suited to playing outside of England than we currently do. same for point 7.

undortunately, the counties have themselves and their members to look after, so there is little chance of the changes to the schedule going through, although the proposals to me sound pretty good. still heavily centred around giving the 100 prime slots, but the ECB are never going to admit defeat on that front.

I have to say I'm very disppointed in Andew Strauss. He seems hell bent on selling out the county game at the expense of the T20's and The Hundred. Believe it or not (and clearly he doesn't) not everybody is a fan of the white ball game. I reckon there must be many hundreds of thousands of fans around the country of County Cricket and of the One-day format (The Royal London) but they're always marginalised by the TV broadcasters because they're not so well attended.

The Hundred was created as a cheap gimmick to attract and introduce children to the game and as far as that goes, so far, it's been very successful, but real cricket doesn't have DJ's playing loud music, or plumes of fire going off every time a six get hit, or TV cameras searching the crowd looking for a couple to highlight on the 'Kiss-Cam'. That has nothing to do with the cricket I love and I reckon I'm not alone in saying that.

If we get six teams in division one in 2024, I'll be able to go to four home games because as a Surrey fan, one game per season is played at Guildford with a capacity of around 2,000 and I'll be damned if I'm going to shlepp down there when The Oval is only a half hour away on the tube.

The Royal London cup could offer me maybe another four home games, so we're talking about eight games a season for what will be around £230 for a season's membership.

The suits at the ECB are chasing the easy money. I get that, but they're happy to sacrifice the life-blood of the test format in the process. There are so many things wrong with cricket and the way it's currently being administered but ignoring the county game is NEVER going to be the answer if we're ever going to be regarded internationally as one of the elite test teams.
 

midoshairband

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that was a really good series win for England, considering the players that didn't play. even two of the games they lost could have gone either way (3 runs and 6 runs). most pleasing to see the bowling actually seems to have come on a fair bit, with some proper plans.

moving on to the T20 WC, lots of of players to come back. not sure where Stokes fits in to this side, will be a shame to see Brook dropped after a great series.
 

Dunc2610

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Am I the only one who's not fussed about having Livingstone back in the side, I think I prefer the temperament (and talent) of Brook.
 

midoshairband

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Am I the only one who's not fussed about having Livingstone back in the side, I think I prefer the temperament (and talent) of Brook.

i'm with you here. dare i say it, also not fussed at all about Stokes in ODI cricket.

this team in Pakistan had a lovely balance.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Brook and Duckett were excellent. As far as a remember (and I might be wrong), Duckett isn't in the T20 World Cup squad but Brook has given the selectors a problem here, he really does look like a seriously good player.
 

Dunc2610

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No Duckett I think is a bit of a mistake, I'm with Mido, no Livingstone or Stokes I don't think is the end of the world, whilst we don't have a comparable all rounder, I think individually we have more talent and a better rounded side. Also feel bad for Phil Salt if he doesn't play, think he offers a lot as opener/keeper.
 

PCozzie

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Not sure I'd want to change too much in that T20 team. They are clearly well balanced, and I think there is another 20% to come. All of the top 6 are aggressive without being gung-ho. But what a selection headache to have! Of course Buttler comes back in as skipper, but any side that can also mull over whether to bring Ben Stokes back into their team is in pretty good shape.
 

Spurslove

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It's looking more and more likely that the reduction of the county season from 14 to 10 games a season is inevitable and I think that's a tragedy. Now, Jos Buttler is advocating the cut...!

 
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