The Cricket Thread

[midoshairband]

all back tomorrow for 30 odd runs then. in front of an empty stadium.

test cricket not helping itself.

 

[UncleBuck]

I’m sorry but if the team batting are happy to carry on I don’t get why you wouldn’t carry on, when did they remove light being offered to the batting team and putting it squarely on the umpires?

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I went today and to be fair it was starting to darken pretty quickly and it would have become dangerous for both batsman and the fielding side within the next over or 2

What they should do is go off for 30/45 mins wait for the floodlights to completely take over and then swap to a pink ball

Absolute nonsense to be coming back tomorrow for 33 runs in this day & age and with those extremely powerful floodlights

 

[southlondonyiddo]

1 win in about 17 pre Stokes/McCullum and now 6 wins in 7

Quite a remarkable turnaround in results and mindset - almost unbelievable with the same group of players

 

[carmeldevil]

New rules starting Oct 1

MCC's new code of Laws for 2022 come into force | Lord's

MCC has today announced its new code of Laws for 2022, which will come into force from 1 October.

www.lords.org

 

[UncleBuck]

Well who’d have thought that, Hales delivered….
The more I watch Wood the more impressive he gets!

 

[Yiddo100]

Belter of a game going on at Chelmsford. 26 wickets fall in the first day
Lanc -131 AO
Ess- 107 AO

2nd innings Lancashire closed the day 7-6 after 10 overs, leading by 31

 

[PCozzie]

Belter of a game going on at Chelmsford. 26 wickets fall in the first day
Lanc -131 AO
Ess- 107 AO

2nd innings Lancashire closed the day 7-6 after 10 overs, leading by 31

Should be enough by the sounds of it. Overnight declaration?

 

[Dunc2610]

Should be enough by the sounds of it. Overnight declaration?

Essex lost lol, Glenn Chappel was NOT happy about the state of the wicket!!

In other news, England women are getting spanked!!

 

[PCozzie]

Essex lost lol, Glenn Chappel was NOT happy about the state of the wicket!!

What did they do to it, host an episode of Time Team on a good length?

 

[Dunc2610]

What did they do to it, host an episode of Time Team?

I don't know, was all over the place apparently, don't think anyone stood a chance! But I think time of year comes in to it too.

 

[Yiddo100]

I don't know, was all over the place apparently, don't think anyone stood a chance! But I think time of year comes in to it too.

the batting was top class though, look at this high quality straight forward defensive shot that got a knick

 

[ljinko888]

The number of County Championship matches teams play in a season could be cut from 14 to 10 with a First Division of six teams, under proposals from the England and Wales Cricket Board.

The ECB's high-performance review also suggests dedicated windows for the One-Day Cup, T20 Blast and the Hundred.
The review - led by Sir Andrew Strauss - is aimed at improving the success of the England men's team.

"We must be open-minded to change," said former England captain Strauss.

The ECB hopes the revised schedule will allow a greater balance between red and white-ball cricket, produce higher quality matches, ease the strain on players' workloads and better compete with franchise Twenty20 competitions such as the Indian Premier League.

Under the proposals:

• The start of the County Championship would move from April to May and run continuously throughout the summer months - rather than being split between the start and end of the summer as it is currently - and finish in September, with teams playing a minimum of 10 games.
• There would be two second division conferences of six teams, with one promotion place decided by an end-of-season play-off.
• The One-Day Cup would take place in a single block in April and could include minor counties in an FA Cup-style knockout format.
• The T20 Blast would reduce from 14 matches to 10 and would also be in a single block from the end of May to end of July.
• The Hundred would be the only white-ball competition to take place in August, with 'first-class cricket festivals' offering specialist red-ball players not competing in that competition the chance to play extra matches.

Any changes to the domestic structure have to be agreed by two-thirds of the 18 first-class counties. The ECB hopes to have a final decision by November with an intention to implement the changes in time for the 2024 season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/62985372

People in the BBC comments section aren't happy. To be honest I enjoy the county championship and have mentioned here of going to a few Middlesex games which isn't costly at all and is worth the fee. I've also been watching the streams on youtube which is well produced. I think the marginalising of the 4 day game over the last several years has had a direct and consequential impact on the England team because during this period the selectors have gone through a whole cast of players. You can't accuse them of not casting a wide net to find opening batsmen for example. Maybe they've been too quick to discard certain players but truth is we've really struggled to find anyone who cements themselves when they make the step up. Either the step up is too big from county to test cricket now which implies mediocre bowling in county cricket or we're really scraping the barrel in county cricket whereby guys averaging 35 are considered among the better players. I am not sure at all how reducing the number of games helps in that regard especially because it means even less opportunity for youngsters to hone their skills in the red ball format.

But I've heard some arguments in the other direction that people who immediately reject these changes are missing the point because these changes aren't made for people like us who already are devoted cricket fans and that people said the same thing about the IPL. That argument is that contrary to dooming India's test team into a bunch of sloggers they've actually had an incredibly successful period home and away in part because having the IPL means these youngsters are growing up with top class players and coaching but also a mass exposure which they don't get in traditional domestic cricket. Where this falls apart however is that the IPL has its own window in the calendar. The Indian test team does not play matches in that window. But The Hundred which is clearly going to be our equivalent coincides with our test match calendar so no matter how much they strive to emulate the IPL it is not going to happen.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Decent partnership this!! Need a couple of wickets!!!

 

[midoshairband]

this is a schocking bowling performance fron England. nobody seems to have amy idea what to when a batsman goes after them.

 

[LSUY]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/62985372

People in the BBC comments section aren't happy. To be honest I enjoy the county championship and have mentioned here of going to a few Middlesex games which isn't costly at all and is worth the fee. I've also been watching the streams on youtube which is well produced. I think the marginalising of the 4 day game over the last several years has had a direct and consequential impact on the England team because during this period the selectors have gone through a whole cast of players. You can't accuse them of not casting a wide net to find opening batsmen for example. Maybe they've been too quick to discard certain players but truth is we've really struggled to find anyone who cements themselves when they make the step up. Either the step up is too big from county to test cricket now which implies mediocre bowling in county cricket or we're really scraping the barrel in county cricket whereby guys averaging 35 are considered among the better players. I am not sure at all how reducing the number of games helps in that regard especially because it means even less opportunity for youngsters to hone their skills in the red ball format.

But I've heard some arguments in the other direction that people who immediately reject these changes are missing the point because these changes aren't made for people like us who already are devoted cricket fans and that people said the same thing about the IPL. That argument is that contrary to dooming India's test team into a bunch of sloggers they've actually had an incredibly successful period home and away in part because having the IPL means these youngsters are growing up with top class players and coaching but also a mass exposure which they don't get in traditional domestic cricket. Where this falls apart however is that the IPL has its own window in the calendar. The Indian test team does not play matches in that window. But The Hundred which is clearly going to be our equivalent coincides with our test match calendar so no matter how much they strive to emulate the IPL it is not going to happen.

If the ECB wants more people to watch cricket put it on free-to-air TV rather than sticking it on a channel that has a smaller reach than a sister channel of Channel 5. The T20 Blast on the BBC or Channel 4 would have given the sport the exposure it needs.

 

[Spurslove]

People like me who love the county championship and have an uneasy distaste for the T20 format ('See ball whack ball'), are not going to buy season memberships for their clubs next year if there are only going to be 5 home games in a county season. My club (Surrey) are going to want to charge me around £220 again, well they can swing for that, and I'll be happy to explain to them why I won't be renewing my membership.

The county championship is the very lifeblood of the English test team, and NOT the T20 FFS. If any of these 'suits' like Strauss thinks we can ever provide better test players than the ones who embarrassed themselves and all of us in the Ashes series in Australia last year, we have to DITCH the T20 or the Hundred, and EXTEND the county season.

We play far too much pointless cricket these days.

And Sky Sports with their dedicated cricket channel should be ashamed of themselves for not televising or promoting live county matches far far more than they do.

 

[aussiespursguy]

People like me who love the county championship and have an uneasy distaste for the T20 format ('See ball whack ball'), are not going to buy season memberships for their clubs next year if there are only going to be 5 home games in a county season. My club (Surrey) are going to want to charge me around £220 again, well they can swing for that, and I'll be happy to explain to them why I won't be renewing my membership.

The county championship is the very lifeblood of the English test team, and NOT the T20 FFS. If any of these 'suits' like Strauss thinks we can ever provide better test players than the ones who embarrassed themselves and all of us in the Ashes series in Australia last year, we have to DITCH the T20 or the Hundred, and EXTEND the county season.

We play far too much pointless cricket these days.

And Sky Sports with their dedicated cricket channel should be ashamed of themselves for not televising or promoting live county matches far far more than they do.

Mate I totally agree with you.
I understand the wanting the "cash grab" of a T20 series. Hell the Big Bash is very important here.
But we only have that (oh and a domestic 1 day 50 over series before the shield season)
To me, the 100 is just a totally ridiculous waste of time and not needed.
The ultimate cash grab.
Test teams are built on 4 day cricket.
I hope we stay on the same path we are on and not some ridiculous 100 format. No thanks from me.

 

[Dunc2610]

People like me who love the county championship and have an uneasy distaste for the T20 format ('See ball whack ball'), are not going to buy season memberships for their clubs next year if there are only going to be 5 home games in a county season. My club (Surrey) are going to want to charge me around £220 again, well they can swing for that, and I'll be happy to explain to them why I won't be renewing my membership.

The county championship is the very lifeblood of the English test team, and NOT the T20 FFS. If any of these 'suits' like Strauss thinks we can ever provide better test players than the ones who embarrassed themselves and all of us in the Ashes series in Australia last year, we have to DITCH the T20 or the Hundred, and EXTEND the county season.

We play far too much pointless cricket these days.

And Sky Sports with their dedicated cricket channel should be ashamed of themselves for not televising or promoting live county matches far far more than they do.

Playing devils advocate here, reducing the number of matches each county plays, but making them play against better opposition in the 'top' league and at a better time of year to be able to provide better pitches for multi day cricket that actually lasts the duration is surely a good thing? Surely that produces better cricketers? Take Australia as an example, their top tier is only 6 teams (Sheffield Shield), and they produce far more top level players than 'we' do. Also, they have far more opportunity to play abroad.

Re showing live county cricket, most if not all counties stream it on YouTube, Essex (my county) certainly do. And dare I say that's even more accessible than watching it on TV as it can essentially be watched anywhere. So what's the incentive for Sky to show it?

Across the world, franchise T20/T10/Hundred leagues are far more lucrative to counties/cricket boards, and until that changes, the County Championship will not be lengthened.

 

[carmeldevil]