Spurs Youth Thread 20/21

[Tottenham_God]

Hey guys, anyone have any insight into the type of player Cy Goddard is?

Mariners sign English born Japanese midfielder Cy Goddard - Central Coast Mariners

The Central Coast Mariners are pleased to announce they have reached an agreement to sign 24-year-old Cy Goddard on a two-year deal. Goddard journeys to the coast having spent last season in the side that won the Indian Super League, Mumbai City FC. Cy was an integral part of the Mumbai team...

www.ccmariners.com.au

As an Australian who absolutely loves our domestic league *cough* it's always good to keep an eye on any spurs products that end up down here.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Hey guys, anyone have any insight into the type of player Cy Goddard is?

Mariners sign English born Japanese midfielder Cy Goddard - Central Coast Mariners

The Central Coast Mariners are pleased to announce they have reached an agreement to sign 24-year-old Cy Goddard on a two-year deal. Goddard journeys to the coast having spent last season in the side that won the Indian Super League, Mumbai City FC. Cy was an integral part of the Mumbai team...

www.ccmariners.com.au

As an Australian who absolutely loves our domestic league *cough* it's always good to keep an eye on any spurs products that end up down here.

an attacking midfield player very much a modern number 10 never did much defensively, was quite nice on the ball - can't remember scoring many but he had some ability, not the biggest - hope he has developed a bit looking forward to watching him we get the A league on the box

 

[Spurzinho]

Cy is... diminutive. He was always a smooth technician when he was with us but he was sorely lacking when it came to impacting the game. He didn't get about the pitch very well, he didn't see the game as quickly or as completely as, for example, the Shashouas did. He's one of those lads that was technically very tidy but lacked any standout attributes that would help him fill a tactical role whether it be creating, scoring or getting about the pitch.

I don't know how much he's developed since he left us and I have no idea of the quality of the Ozzie league so I can't comment on whether he'll tear it up.

 

[Insomnia]

Gareth & David Howells were at the Club together, Gareth was a goalkeeper, not sure if he played in the first team mind

 

[Trix]

Fair comments, but as we don't know, as you rightly allude to, we can only guess.
What is a fact is that we lost Madueke and Binks for next to nothing, compared to their current values. So that's not a good sign, and if Paskotski and Markanday go the same way, there are going to be to be lots of questions asked and accusations raised by many disgruntled Spurs fans

Yeah well that's modern day football for you, especially in the Premier league. The fans want two established players for every position yet still complain when the youth players leave. Have a look through the next window scouting threads, where lots of people are listing players they want us to bring in to complete the squad. How many of them are advocating brining through the youth? Yet they'll moan when they leave.

The problem with having two internationals for every position is that they need game time as well and that means playing in the lesser competitions.

I agree with you and would rather see more juniors brought through, but when that happens and they lose its very much a case of "manager picked a weak team, where was player X,y,z?"

I'm really hoping Enic's proposed deal for the Belgian club comes to pass because I think will help keeping upcoming youth players happy as they transition to senior football.

 

[chavkev]

This is where Alex Ferguson really excelled. Not in bringing through the Scholes, Beckham level players. But in getting game time for Fletcher, O'Shea, Brown, Evans etc. His squads often contained a lot of players like Park who covered all over the pitch as well as being supplemented with players from the academy. This is probably where we need to find more value from our academy, allowing us to have a core non-academy originated squad of 15/16.

Japhet Tanganga and Oliver Skipp are a very good start in this area.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Yeah well that's modern day football for you, especially in the Premier league. The fans want two established players for every position yet still complain when the youth players leave. Have a look through the next window scouting threads, where lots of people are listing players they want us to bring in to complete the squad. How many of them are advocating brining through the youth? Yet they'll moan when they leave.

The problem with having two internationals for every position is that they need game time as well and that means playing in the lesser competitions.

I agree with you and would rather see more juniors brought through, but when that happens and they lose its very much a case of "manager picked a weak team, where was player X,y,z?"

I'm really hoping Enic's proposed deal for the Belgian club comes to pass because I think will help keeping upcoming youth players happy as they transition to senior football.

we don't have unlimited budgets like those oil doped clubs, so the best strategy to keep us competitive is to centralise our transfer budget in the best players we can attain and use youth players with potential to be backup/rotational options instead of spreading the limited budget on several "tier-2" players

 

[Tottenham_God]

Cy is... diminutive. He was always a smooth technician when he was with us but he was sorely lacking when it came to impacting the game. He didn't get about the pitch very well, he didn't see the game as quickly or as completely as, for example, the Shashouas did. He's one of those lads that was technically very tidy but lacked any standout attributes that would help him fill a tactical role whether it be creating, scoring or getting about the pitch.

I don't know how much he's developed since he left us and I have no idea of the quality of the Ozzie league so I can't comment on whether he'll tear it up.

The standard I would say is around league one with some teams league Two guality. For example, Any Keogh that you may remember, has been a star player, as we as a 34 year old Adam Le Fondre. A grave yard for half decent players

 

[eddiebailey]

your right overall most of the boys will never quite make it, there are all up against internationals to break into the first team and the truth is if you put those internationals into the stiffs they would shine perhaps more brightly. Boys can look great in the youth team, Josh was outstanding in a very good youth team he would receive the ball anywhere keep it and use it. Suddenly in the first team he couldn't impose himself on games (i still think he never had that personality to demand the ball where as in the youth team he had that respect from team mates he never earned that in the first team) he ended up playing wide and he never looked confident enough which I still think is real shame. I agree about KWP he improved so much and then we picked Aurier in front of him

The trouble with picking kids they need time to adjust and find there feet and modern football isn't a patient game you can be a star one minute then a donkey the next dare I mention Winksy . I would say it takes 10 to 20 games until a boy is really part of the first team - loans are ok but even they are not always easy, clubs lower down the pyramid have the same pressures they are not doing you a favour to bring a boy in on loan - the boy has to do a job and for every loan that works out well there are more where its bloody hard and unrewarding, a stark change from going from same age football to the slog of lower league football.

Reserve football doesn't really work for the youngster the league format is a bit more competitive but you are coming up against effectively the same players you have been playing against for all your pro career I feel that feeder clubs would be a good way to go but you lose the integrity of the league and even then you only have to look at the results the u23 sides get when play league sides in that midweek cup not one u23 side has won that

Under Sherwood we established good relationships with clubs like Yeovil and Swindon. Need to do more of that.

 

[eddiebailey]

Yeah well that's modern day football for you, especially in the Premier league. The fans want two established players for every position yet still complain when the youth players leave. Have a look through the next window scouting threads, where lots of people are listing players they want us to bring in to complete the squad. How many of them are advocating brining through the youth? Yet they'll moan when they leave.

The problem with having two internationals for every position is that they need game time as well and that means playing in the lesser competitions.

I agree with you and would rather see more juniors brought through, but when that happens and they lose its very much a case of "manager picked a weak team, where was player X,y,z?"

I'm really hoping Enic's proposed deal for the Belgian club comes to pass because I think will help keeping upcoming youth players happy as they transition to senior football.

Think part of the problem is that we are two slow to move senior players on after they drop out of regular first team contention. They need game time to justify their salaries but struggle to motivate themselves in the sort of games where a young fringe player would be properly up for it.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

Yeah well that's modern day football for you, especially in the Premier league. The fans want two established players for every position yet still complain when the youth players leave. Have a look through the next window scouting threads, where lots of people are listing players they want us to bring in to complete the squad. How many of them are advocating brining through the youth? Yet they'll moan when they leave.

The problem with having two internationals for every position is that they need game time as well and that means playing in the lesser competitions.

I agree with you and would rather see more juniors brought through, but when that happens and they lose its very much a case of "manager picked a weak team, where was player X,y,z?"

I'm really hoping Enic's proposed deal for the Belgian club comes to pass because I think will help keeping upcoming youth players happy as they transition to senior football.

Is this possible deal looking more at signing under 18 EU players and parking them in Belgium until old enough to come over here.

 

[Locotoro]

Yeah well that's modern day football for you, especially in the Premier league. The fans want two established players for every position yet still complain when the youth players leave. Have a look through the next window scouting threads, where lots of people are listing players they want us to bring in to complete the squad. How many of them are advocating brining through the youth? Yet they'll moan when they leave.

The problem with having two internationals for every position is that they need game time as well and that means playing in the lesser competitions.

I agree with you and would rather see more juniors brought through, but when that happens and they lose its very much a case of "manager picked a weak team, where was player X,y,z?"

I'm really hoping Enic's proposed deal for the Belgian club comes to pass because I think will help keeping upcoming youth players happy as they transition to senior football.

i agree with the Liege bit...

I'm interested in your opinion on why more link ups are created (business or otherwise) with Scottish clubs? That is something that surprises me

 

[ralphs bald spot]

The standard I would say is around league one with some teams league Two guality. For example, Any Keogh that you may remember, has been a star player, as we as a 34 year old Adam Le Fondre. A grave yard for half decent players

i quite like what I have seen of the boy Toure young centre forward 16 with Adelaide (looked that up) very raw but he would be worth a punt big strong powerful runner

 

[wlhatwhl]

Think you're right, Only other brothers on the club books back then I can remember were Ian & David Culverhouse (Ian 2 games, then Sold to Norwich, David no 1st team games sold to Dagenham & Redbridge) and then In the 90's/00's Luke & Neil Young (Neil No games sold to Bournemouth, Luke 76 games Sold to Charlton)

As I posted earlier in the thread.
John and Andy Polston played together for Spurs

John Polston and his brother Andy became the first brothers to play together in the Tottenham first team since 1912 when they both appeared in a game against Crystal Palace at White Hart Lane on 3rd March 1990. John was a centre half who made 27 League and Cup appearances and scored 1 goal but Andy, a full-back, made only that single appearance as a substitute. Spurs lost 1 – 0 to Palace.

John joined Norwich on leaving Spurs where he was a regular in their League team. Andy played for Gillingham, Cambridge and Brighton after leaving Spurs.

 

[EQP]

Think Markanday did enough to get another chance on Wednesday. We'll probably see a similar squad vs Burnley and we could then move Gil central and Markanday on the right.

 

[chinaman]

Think Markanday did enough to get another chance on Wednesday. We'll probably see a similar squad vs Burnley and we could then move Gil central and Markanday on the right.

Agree. And if we were to field another 2nd string side in any match, he should be given a start. In 15 minutes today, he did more than Dane, Alli and Stevie combined.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Nuno (and Paratici) is going to destroy Scarlett if he keeps treating him this way. Against Mura he received no service whatsoever and was hooked. Tonight, again, he’s received no service and was hooked for a midfielder. He clearly isn’t ready to be leading the line for a second string XI. Eventually he’ll start questioning if he’s good enough when he’s still ridiculously young.

 

[EQP]

Agree. And if we were to field another 2nd string side in any match, he should be given a start. In 15 minutes today, he did more than Dane, Alli and Stevie combined.

I think we'll see another 2nd string side on Wednesday. Just remembered that Manu got knocked out of the Carabao Cup and will have the luxury of 5 full days to prep before our game.

 

[Shanks]

U16 premier league cup tournament this weekend!

 

[ShelfWatcher]

Nuno (and Paratici) is going to destroy Scarlett if he keeps treating him this way. Against Mura he received no service whatsoever and was hooked. Tonight, again, he’s received no service and was hooked for a midfielder. He clearly isn’t ready to be leading the line for a second string XI. Eventually he’ll start questioning if he’s good enough when he’s still ridiculously young.

Yep as I said before the game was a mistake to select Scarlett. I was amazed how many people thought it was a good idea to start him