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Match Threads Spurs Vs Sporting CP

Date
Oct 26, 2022
KO Time
20:00
Score
Spurs 1-1 Sporting
Bentacur (80)
Edwards (22)

Match Prediction

  • Spurs Win

    Votes: 32 58.2%
  • Porto Win

    Votes: 15 27.3%
  • Score Win

    Votes: 8 14.5%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    55

DarwinSpur

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Dec 30, 2020
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So the clearest corollary to that decision would be us vs City.

Did Eriksen lose the ball backwards in that situation or did it come off a City player to make Aguero offside?
 

taidgh

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Aug 13, 2004
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Indeed. He has to be playing or attempting to play the ball and he wasn't.
Attempting doesn't come into it where the defender is concerned. That language is there to define offside for the attacker. For the defender it comes down to deliberately played the ball or not.
 

cjbyid

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Jan 4, 2009
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Probably in the small minority here but I liked the second half performance. Nice to see some intensity.

We keep going.
 

Johnny J

Not the Kiwi you need but the one you deserve
Aug 18, 2012
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It's one of them mate. Feels very harsh and I feel if it's that tight and takes that long it means they aren't sure. In that case the goal should stand imo.
These instances of VAR ruling out at best marginal offsides are also ridiculous because the players themselves can't judge it to that minute degree. They're applying a level of scrutiny that the law and game was never designed to tolerate.
 

glacierSpurs

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Sep 28, 2013
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@glacierSpurs what are you disagreeing with? They are the laws of the game mate. They might be stupid and make little sense, but none the less they are the laws.
Hey, chill. I mishit the rating by accident. And it's only a disagree. If any, I really don't agree my point being irrelevant despite me being not as well versed in the laws of football. Okay? And I don't think everyone must answer to why they disagree too, this is a forum - that's what I was told a few years back. Right?
 

chrissivad

Staff
May 20, 2005
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That’s actually a good call. As soon as it goes to checking for offside the ref puts his timer on and goes back to his on field decision

Then you need to give it back to the assistant to call.
At the moment they don't make the call and let VAR decided.

If your going to go with the 'on field call' then you need to let them make the call after.
 

GioW

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Aug 22, 2011
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What this thread proves is that a lot of people don't understand the offside rule.

The goal was marginally offside and was called as such.

You can argue that three minutes of checking a marginal decision isn't the spirit of the game but as both the offside and var rules stand at the moment it was the correct call.

Still fucking hurts though.
I think especially hard to take because on seeing the replay I felt safe that it was on
 

only1waddle

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Jun 18, 2012
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A bit more composure and we dick them in normal time, frustrating, but it shows we can move the ball quickly, and win the ball with less rigid positioning, which leads to more anticipation, more movement. Wingbacks weren't glued to the sidelines second half and that also made a difference.
 

theShiznit

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Jul 26, 2004
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What this thread proves is that a lot of people don't understand the offside rule.

The goal was marginally offside and was called as such.

You can argue that three minutes of checking a marginal decision isn't the spirit of the game but as both the offside and var rules stand at the moment it was the correct call.

Still fucking hurts though.
The reason it took so long to check was not down to the issue which was called straight away as it was not marginal it was because the ball was going behind Kane until the interaction of the defender.
They were purely deciding if it was a deliberate act and therefore a new phase when it went to Kane.
 

nidge

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Jul 27, 2004
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Royal played the ball backwards
Their defender played the ball to Kane.
It can not be offside.
I don't believe the var ref understood that and probably only looked at the freeze frames as their player wasn't in front of Royal he was running back to intercept it.
I think they were checking a bunch of offsides to finally find one.
European football is bent.
Fuck Var football was better without it.

Once again the ball deflected of the defender so because there was no intent from the Sporting player to make a play on the ball going backwards is meaningless.
 

davidclarke

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Nov 23, 2014
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Royal played the ball backwards
Their defender played the ball to Kane.
It can not be offside.
I don't believe the var ref understood that and probably only looked at the freeze frames as their player wasn't in front of Royal he was running back to intercept it.
I think they were checking a bunch of offsides to finally find one.
European football is bent.
Fuck Var football was better without it.
Neither of the first 2 points here are relevant to offside / correct. It’s one of those annoying ones that kills to be on the wrong side of, but Kane was ahead of the ball, so therefore offside
 

taidgh

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Aug 13, 2004
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It's a common myth that the direction the ball is played matters and nothing in the Laws mentions that. It's not changed recently its just a long held myth.

What matters is the moment the ball touches Emerson and if Kane was ahead of the ball. The deflection off the defender doesn't change it.

It seems to be very slightly offside and is simply another example of VAR fixing things that don't need fixed.
what happened to the semi-automated offside and the accompanying image?
 

Johnspur

Active Member
Feb 23, 2008
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I'm so flat after that. Awful viewing in the first half. Upped it for the second, dare I say we were pretty good in the second half and missed chances to win.

Score in the 95th min only for one of the most tedious decisions I've ever seen to completley kill my mood. I barely celebrate goals anymore, just wait to see what VAR says.
 

werty

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Aug 8, 2005
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I want to know what happened to semi-automated offside in the group stages. The image that shows is the clearest way to see. But we get lines instead this time. Why?
I was wondering that too. I don't know much about how it works.
 

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