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Mullers

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In general I'd say it was pretty poor yes. I think that is indicated by the fact that the 3 teams who came up are going to all stay up (not sure when that last happened) although Swansea and Norwich have been very deserving and played decently. We have faced a lot of park the bus football all year and if we had figured out how to beat that then we would have taken a lot more points against very poor teams.

Which is why we should make the most of our opportunities this season.
 

Misfit

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If we win our last game, it will be 28 pts in the second half of the season. That would be 56 point pace, which isn't great but would still be good enough for 6th place in the league (considering that Everton would be 7th with 56 but lower than us on goal difference). That means at our worst, we are still the 6th best in the league?

The second point is very valid and I completely agree.
Oh yeah, we'd be 6th at worst. We're in a predicament really. I firmly believe we have the talent to compete with theteams around us for 4th - and the last couple of seasons would seem to back that up. However, the differences in the scenarios of whether we finish 3rd or 6th aren't that great.

Personally, the thing that kills me most is the what ifs. No team ever maxes it's potential out all the time, or even the majority of the time. The successful teams don't go through weeks and months this season for us of such indifferent form. This squad should not go through a period of winning two games in a run of a dozen games. We're not asking for the world. Maybe a win at home against a bottom half team here and there in the meatime.

We had a 3 month spell where our shit didn't stink. We could do no wrong. That doesn't happen often, especially to us. That was our ceiling for this season. We played some ridiculous stuff, and were fortunate on a couple of occasions. OK, we couldn't maintian that but the subsequent second half of this season so far, is not the potential of this squad. It just plain isn't.

Had we managed to be more consistent, have a stronger foundation, no more one extreme to the other, who knows where we'd be? The unknown and potential what ifs of unrealised potential is killing me. We won't have done ourselves justice and won't know how to judge this season properly. We haven't given ourselves the best chance possible.

Needs to stop. Say we win our last game - is this team really only 6 pts better - and without the ready-made excuse of CL to boot - than last season's incarnation? You'll excuse me if I say a big fat no.
 

WhiteHart4Ever

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In general I'd say it was pretty poor yes. I think that is indicated by the fact that the 3 teams who came up are going to all stay up (not sure when that last happened) although Swansea and Norwich have been very deserving and played decently. We have faced a lot of park the bus football all year and if we had figured out how to beat that then we would have taken a lot more points against very poor teams.

I hear ppl say this year's been poor, but can't see how: the top teams surely aren't under-performing, I'm quite positive there won't be many seasons in the EPL that can match the total point tally of, say, the top 6. For excitement it's been great, I also think it'll be tough to find a season with such a close race between third to sixth and there's enough drama for the title and against the drop as well. Looking at the promoted teams surviving might just show improved Championship quality, and the fact the long-staying teams like Bolton, Villa, Blackburn are in relegation battle is hardly an indication it's been easy this year. Also, that you can spend, what 80 million or something on players and still be mid-table shows how hard this league is.

Only point there might be is that English teams have struggled in Europe, but then again the 6th best team's in the CL final.

So, no, it hasn't been a shit season, it's been the Premiership at its best. Reaching (almost) 70 points in this league is a great achievement, and would've secured 3rd last year if I remember correctly.
 

bomberH

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I haven't read all the thread so apologies if this has already been mentioned but jumping up and down on the touch line has fuck all affect on the team. AVB was a hyperactive kneeling mofo, meant nothing. Fergie doesn't hardly move, doesn't affect anything. It's the half time talks and the threat of a verbal ear bashing that players respond to.

Harry does get involved sometimes, remember the bashing he gave Sandro after he scored against Chelsea. But overall he's been a sitter, I'm ok with that. Rather that than watch a lanky fucktard like Wenger jump up and down with his hands in the air throwing water bottles every week.
 

Misfit

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I haven't read all the thread so apologies if this has already been mentioned but jumping up and down on the touch line has fuck all affect on the team. AVB was a hyperactive kneeling mofo, meant nothing. Fergie doesn't hardly move, doesn't affect anything. It's the half time talks and the threat of a verbal ear bashing that players respond to.

Harry does get involved sometimes, remember the bashing he gave Sandro after he scored against Chelsea. But overall he's been a sitter, I'm ok with that. Rather that than watch a lanky fucktard like Wenger jump up and down with his hands in the air throwing water bottles every week.
Indeed. I think JJ fulfils that role anyway? I'm rather ambivalent to H's pros and cons, I can take him or leave him tbh. To get on his case because he doesn't clap his hands like a 9 yr old girl at a Bieber concert is a little unfair though.
 

Dr Know

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My son has just reminded me of something I said at the start of the season. I made a few statements:

I said I would be ecstatic if we finished above Chelsea (after they spent £50m on Torres)

After missing out on Carroll I said the same about L'Pool

After what I saw as a poor transfer window, then the Man City whooping I said if we were given 5th there and then I would take it

I think I got my wishes, so no more negativity from me. I'm right behind Harry and the team. A fair bit went on like the court case and the England job, so maybe we need to be that arm around the shoulder to Harry that we all said he was to players like Benny and Bale which made them the key players they are today!!


COYS!! COYS!! COYS!!
(y) (y) (y)
 

coffer

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True, but a much better point about yesterday's game though was that he did little in terms of changing our tactics, i.e. Pushing for the win yesterday. I assume (/hope) that's the passivity OP and others are referring to. At the end of the day it was a golden point: if Newcastle fail win at Everton we're 4th either way (I assume Liverpool get their revenge Tuesday) and as long as we beat Fulham at home Arsenal will have to beat West Brom away - which is a much harder task. Still advantage us IMO, but Arsenal should be able to mobilize enough to get past West Brom if they're worthy of third. But based on the above I can understand that he didn't want to risk things yesterday, and we did come away with a point after dominating with ten man after what I think was a harsh red card...
Can't really argue with any of your comments, but in spite of what many Spurs supporters think Harry and his team have got it right most of the time. It was a very difficult call to go for broke with only 10 men on the field. Having watched the game again this morning I think we were very unlucky not to come away with all 3 points. HR would have been a hero, ha no only joking!! Had we started the season with 6 out of a possible 27 and we are where we are now in the league, I would have been delighted. Such are the vagaries of football!
 

stemark44

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I don't think it's important to have a manager constantly shouting instructions from the sidelines but you would certainly want your manager to present an image of strength and determination during the game.

I don't think rubbing your head when a decision is needed,shaking it from side to side,being indecisive about changes,having a meeting with both coaching staff as to what to do and twitching profusely really exudes that.
 

Spurs_Bear

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I don't think it's important to have a manager constantly shouting instructions from the sidelines but you would certainly want your manager to present an image of strength and determination during the game.

I don't think rubbing your head when a decision is needed,shaking it from side to side,being indecisive about changes,having a meeting with both coaching staff as to what to do and twitching profusely really exudes that.

Right, in all seriousness what the fuck has the fact that Harry has a twitch got to do with anything?

It just makes people sound like utter ****s when they use the fact he has a twitch against him as if it is another reason to beat him with.
 

Misfit

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Am I the only one who doesn't notice his twitch? Seems to have flown by me that has. Is it just a tick or does his eye twitch or something? Gimme something sprcific to look out for.
 

stemark44

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Am I the only one who doesn't notice his twitch? Seems to have flown by me that has. Is it just a tick or does his eye twitch or something? Gimme something sprcific to look out for.

Watch yesterdays game and the point when Rose gets a red card,you can see Harry in the background and he is a bit animated.........as soon as the referee shows the red card............Harry immediately shuts up and tries to disappear into the background.....the twitch starts.
 

Spurs_Bear

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stemark you're so cute with your little red crosses :), tell your kids about it I'm sure they're really proud.

I really hope you don't get a nervous twitch or involuntary spasm at some point in your life.
 

stemark44

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http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...nham-a-change-of-attitude-is-long-overdue-if?

Pretty much sums up my own thoughts about the game.

Why did we not change things,Villa were awful,we had total control and we needed to score.

Even in the final 10-15 minutes he really should have done something.


I honestly think Rose getting sent off gave him a scapegoat and a ready made excuse.
Up until the penalty he was going to bring Defoe on but as soon as we equalised,he told him to sit down.
Later on, the next player he had warming up was Parker but he didn't bring him on until the final few minutes.

He couldn't wait to tell the media that we did everything asked of us but with a man sent off,you would take a draw.

It just looks to me as if Harry is happy to get 4th...............that's what his target was at the start of the season and he can say to Levy that he achieved it.
It doesn't matter to him that we could have finished above Arsenal and taken 3rd spot and it doesn't matter to him that we could still lose out if Chelsea beat Bayern.
 

MightyModric

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The comments are better than the article.

spursmania tottenham
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As a spurs fan I have to bow down and praise the almighty arsenal!! Too long have I been blinded by deceit that I have not realised that quite literally the grass is greener on the other side of north london. That is exactly why I have now converted to arsenalism and am now officialy a gooner, and will be purchasing a house near the holy ground of the emirates. To complete the holy conversion I need witnesses, so I ask all you football goers to like my comment. God forgive me for my spurs past!!!
 

tobi

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The comparison with Mourinho is unnecessary but I agree with the tone of the article.

That's a gooner with nothing better to do.
 

StartingPrice

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I think it is frighening enough for the players being constatnly distracted by his twitchy face going into tick-tastic overdrive, without having the added stress of listening to his incoherent jibberish, puncuated occasionally by the unmistakable sund of: "run abat abit fer feck sake" :eek:
 

EastLondonYid

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Just as well the England job is gone as i think Harry would be accused of not giving a toss if we get CL in any shape or form, i think some of the anti Harry comments are getting a little boring now.I think Harrys comments were taken out of context, i got the impression he meant he was happy with a point only because we were 1-0 down with 10 men, is that really such a bad thing to say, i look at the bigger picture and think that one point may be vital and could be massive come sunday, we obviously didn't want it to be out of our hands but that point means the scum and newcastle must win if we beat Fulham, if we had lost the scum would have secured 3rd with just a draw at wba, also Chelsea could have caught us with a win and a draw, now they must win both their games.

I am positive tbh, the scenario for us to not qualify for the CL (fuck 3rd lets just qualify ffs)...is all in our favour, the scum must win away, newcastle must win away and Chelsea must win away to bayern in their own ground..all those have to happen providing we do our bit....its not over!!...this can still be a succesful season.
 
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