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Player Watch: Hugo Lloris

felmani26

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Do think a tough decision needs to be made. Yes he can have great games but so can most keepers across the league (often against us), but the regularity with which he costs us in big games is crazy. It's a mental thing. He even did it for France in the World Cup Final. We can't afford these setbacks in important games.

We missed an opportunity to take the captaincy off of him with the drink driving charge IMO.
Basically this and he absolutely should have been stripped of Captaincy after his drink driving charge.
 

ikky

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I think it’s time Poch was ruthless with some players and show that bad displays have consequences. Not only the calamity between him and trippier ( who also should be dropped ) but he was very poor for the first goal also. We like to play out from the back and that also includes the keeper but Lloris kicking is terrible. Pep also likes to play out from the back and he got rid of Hart mostly because he was shit with his feet ( amongst his other failings ). I think Gazzaniga should be in goal for a few games plus his distribution is much better than Lloris’s.
 

Primativ

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I absolutely agree it's time Poch was ruthless with some players and Lloris is one of them.

He makes more big errors more than any other top 6 keeper in the league I believe (by quite a margin).

At the very least he needs to be stripped of his captaincy and given to someone else. Poch needs to start refreshing the squad, and there are certain players who I believe need to be sacrificed for the greater good of the side.

Lloris is definitely one of them, he's had a very very poor season overall and it annoys me when I see fans jumping about because he pulls out a good save, as if that glosses over all his mistakes and shortcomings.

The guy can't be relied on, even in the world Cup final he made a calamitous error. If he can't concentrate for 90 mins in a game of that magnitude, what hope have we got?

I've lost count the amount of huge games he's basically chucked one in his own net. He basically sums up us as a team, we flatter to deceive but when push comes to shove we haven't got enough about us.

I just think certain players have run their course and for me his kicking is absolutely woeful, and his pro's do not outweight his cons, not by a stretch.

It rubs salt in the wounds that such an error prone player is our captain. It's just really odd. captains should be the players who stand up when needed the most, lead by example and grab games by the scruff of the neck when the chips are down.

Does Lloris really fit this criteria?
 

Davo99

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The communication was poor with Trippier and so was his anticipation in coming off his line earlier to clear it. I think Trips was expecting him to be charging out already there to clear. The buck must stop with Trippier there though, once he sees he’s not coming he should have just cleared it out himself, not call for him and then play it past him.
 

M.I.B.

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I think it’s time Poch was ruthless with some players and show that bad displays have consequences. Not only the calamity between him and trippier ( who also should be dropped ) but he was very poor for the first goal also. We like to play out from the back and that also includes the keeper but Lloris kicking is terrible. Pep also likes to play out from the back and he got rid of Hart mostly because he was shit with his feet ( amongst his other failings ). I think Gazzaniga should be in goal for a few games plus his distribution is much better than Lloris’s.

His distribution is better, but only on the basis that lloris's is shit
 

eddiev14

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Jan 18, 2005
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It looks like the defenders have no confidence in him these days. He used to win us 10pts or so each season but he’s started to cost us points now.

It’s a great shame as he’s been a great player for us and, by all accounts, a top bloke.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Nov 8, 2004
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I cant blame him for the first goal, doesn't get beaten at his near post. The ball goes through his legs which happens and can be impossible to stop especially struck at that pace from that distance

Second goal was 70/30 Tripps fault.Should have dealt with the situation better at the beginning, was never Lloris ball, was always just a calm back pass. He then gets stuck, tells Hugo to come. The rest is history....
 

John48

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Whilst Toby & Davies defending was really poor, a quality keeper would have bailed them out, but Lloris isn't a quality keeper.

The 2nd was bad communication, but again the GK should have taken charge & again he didn't, which again showed his lack of quality.

He's had quite a few poor games recently, so maybe it's time to give him a rest.
 

markiespurs

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Hugo's decision making has been pretty poor this season, both on the pitch and off it.

Still not sure if it's time for the club to sell Hugo in the summer, but if a decent replacement became available then i think that Poch should give it serious consideration.
 

Jules_PF

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I just can’t agree with the first part of that comment. The cock ups are definitely more common than the stellar performances this season, and it’s been going that way for a while.

The second was a mix up, it can happen, but De Gea or Alisson would have saved the first, pretty sure about that.

If you google De Gea and Allison mistakes/errors you will find quite a few. De Gea has make the same error continually throughout his career, like the one in the world cup (shot straight at him, slips past him hands and legs into net) . Allison has also made a few big error too (like the one vs Arsenal and numerous drops from a seemingly routine catch. They happen, even to Neuer, if you want to google his errors.

I think we forget a few games ago, Lloris was MoM and earned us 3 points. Hugo's performances have slipped this season, but he is still the best we can get ATM, liverpool spent £56M on Allison, sorry fella, but we are just not in that market.
 

danielneeds

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If you google De Gea and Allison mistakes/errors you will find quite a few. De Gea has make the same error continually throughout his career, like the one in the world cup (shot straight at him, slips past him hands and legs into net) . Allison has also made a few big error too (like the one vs Arsenal and numerous drops from a seemingly routine catch. They happen, even to Neuer, if you want to google his errors.

I think we forget a few games ago, Lloris was MoM and earned us 3 points. Hugo's performances have slipped this season, but he is still the best we can get ATM, liverpool spent £56M on Allison, sorry fella, but we are just not in that market.
Roma bought Allison only two years previous to that for peanuts. It’s all about good scouting, especially with a goalkeeper.

Of course all keepers make errors, but Hugo’s have become very habitual. He’s miles away from his performance levels of three or four years ago.
 

Gilzeanking

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I think it’s time Poch was ruthless with some players and show that bad displays have consequences. Not only the calamity between him and trippier ( who also should be dropped ) but he was very poor for the first goal ). I think Gazzaniga should be in goal for a few games plus his distribution is much better than Lloris’s.

I see this comment everywhere and am completely baffled by it . From the distance the shot was taken Lloris had no time whatsoever to react . He can just stand and hope the shot hits him . An intelligent forward knows that provided he keeps his shot on goal flat on the ground he just has to miss the 2 feet of the keeper . Shoot higher and the keeper has a better chance .

I can only conclude that non footballing commenters are making this hopelessly inaccurate assertion .
 
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Jules_PF

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Roma bought Allison only two years previous to that for peanuts. It’s all about good scouting, especially with a goalkeeper.

Of course all keepers make errors, but Hugo’s have become very habitual. He’s miles away from his performance levels of three or four years ago.

I agree, but you can say the same on many players, kante only cost Leicester £5.6m. How much did Sissoko and Wanyama cost us? 8/9 times more.

I agree on habitual errors, but think we overlook the outstanding saves. On the Chelsea game, I don't think he was at fault for either goal, Toby was too easily beaten and should have shown Pedro other side, he was more at fault than Hugo. KT was showing and indicating for him to come, he did, KT panicked and played the pass without looking and within the posts, both pretty schoolboy errors.

Personally I'm more concerned with the fact we had not one single shot on target the entire game, not one. For a team with our personnel and league position that is a damning statistic.
 
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double0

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Whilst Toby & Davies defending was really poor, a quality keeper would have bailed them out, but Lloris isn't a quality keeper.

The 2nd was bad communication, but again the GK should have taken charge & again he didn't, which again showed his lack of quality.

He's had quite a few poor games recently, so maybe it's time to give him a rest.
Ok Lloris should of taken charge let's run with that...so Trippier found himself facing goal with a opposing player baring down. Lloris as we all know is and always will be a sweeper keeper therefore is in a natural position. Trippier panics doesn't once look up, this prior to him signalling Lloris for help/angel then over hit the the ball past Lloris into an empty net....now we can all sit here and say Lloris should of took charge but Trippier was in possession of the ball.

Trust me, I haven't been overly impressed with Lloris for some seasons and expressed my opinions before but when blame is unjust it most be said.
 
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