Player Watch: Clément Lenglet

[LeBonge79]

He isn’t itk lol

He’s a chancer that guy. So many fall for it.

 

[jpascavitz]

I tweeted it, but I'll die on the hill of Lenglet being good on the left of a back three. His passing and dribbling stats are better than anyone in Europe according to his FBref.

Also I would just add if you can't feasibly get Bastoni or Torres (or aren't completely sold for the price) then him plus a CB target like Bremer would be completely fine with me as I think our back 3 would still be stronger than ever

 

[Johno1470]

He may not be the greatest defender but offensively, he’s fantastic for a ball playing LCB. Ranks in the 99th percentile for passes attempted, progressive carries and dribbles.

Prior to his move to Barca, he was very highly rated. I’m not in the slightest surprised that his move to Barca hasn’t worked out. They’ve been a mess in recent years, both on and off the pitch.

He is an experienced CB, won plenty of titles and has a winners mentality. On a loan with an option would be a smart deal IMO.

 

[rossdapep]

Barca have been an absolute mess structurally and stably for the last 2-3 years, any player in that period needs to be analysed very carefully because a lot probably look worse than that actually are.

 

[jimmyh]

The only person at the club that would think Lenglet is a good signing would gentle Ben because there is no chance he would lose his place to him.
If FP signs him regardless of were the extra money would go then so much for a change in the way we do business of getting the cheapest option instead of quality options.
I watch all of Barcelona games and he is not good enough went completely backwards and is a car crash of a defender.

 

[pedrodelawasp]

Didn’t he start really well at Barca, but his form dipped after a season or so? The dip coinciding with similar dips for essentially all of his teammates, the backline and defensive midfield positions in particular?

I think he is too young to write off, particularly given the quality and promise he showed in the not-so-distant past.

I get the aversion to the “if Conte/Paratici wants him then I do too” perspective. I agree, in fact. With this potential deal, with signs pointing to a loan with option, I’d probably be willing to support it - provided the loan fee, option price and wages are reasonable.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

8 months ago everyone on this forum was done with Davies... in came a new coach and a new role and was transformed...

Imagine that with a more talented player.

I’ve come to the conclusion that Conte knows more than me when it comes to football. I’d say he’s extremely good at evaluating a player’s strengths and weaknesses, and, more importantly, enhancing a player to get the best out of them. As such, I don’t really care that much who we sign this window. As long as Conte is happy with what he gets, and there’s every indication him and Paratici are in the driving seat here, then I don’t see the point in getting flustered by things.

The key for me was getting Conte in and then the club changing the way it’s done things in past windows. Levy mostly taking a back seat and decent money being made available suggest a genuine tilt at eating at the big table. If this player, or any other, is good enough for Conte then so be it

 

[Hoopspur]

Lenglet could be a shit signing.

FYP

 

[JCRD]

The only person at the club that would think Lenglet is a good signing would gentle Ben because there is no chance he would lose his place to him.
If FP signs him regardless of were the extra money would go then so much for a change in the way we do business of getting the cheapest option instead of quality options.
I watch all of Barcelona games and he is not good enough went completely backwards and is a car crash of a defender.

All that Lenglet needs to be is good enough for the lower half type teams... that gives Davies a rest for the bigger games. aThat is essentially what we need.

Then again Lenglet is underwhelming but if he is good enough for the lower half teams then thats fine for me.

 

[mil1lion]

I think he would do well in our well drilled defence. Barca are incredibly open defensively and he's not the only one who struggles in defence. Even with Pique and Araujo they get opened up far too easy. He wouldn't be my top choice but if a loan for him allows us to spend big on other key areas it could work out well. Possibly an alternative to Eriksen on a free, get Lenglet on a loan and spend big on an attacking midfielder (Raphina?) instead. We haven't got a bottomless pit of money even with the extra investment so still need to do a few deals so we can get the depth we need. He would be good competition for Davies at lcb, just need better competition for Dier maybe and we'll look strong in defence. End of the day he's an upgrade on Rodon.

 

[mdharris]

He is likely to be someone we are lining up as one of the final options if other targets don’t work out. It makes sense - if we are not able to to get Bastoni, Torrez or Ndicka - we will then be ready to pull the trigger here. No need to panic just yet.

 

[Hoopspur]

The comments about we can then spend our money elsewhere isn’t really the way it works though. If our first choice CH’s aren’t attainable this year then save it for next, or the winter window.

 

[jimmyh]

All that Lenglet needs to be is good enough for the lower half type teams... that gives Davies a rest for the bigger games. aThat is essentially what we need.

Then again Lenglet is underwhelming but if he is good enough for the lower half teams then thats fine for me.

So what is the point in signing him if Davies gets hurt and the guy you bring in to cover for him is not good enough to play against the teams at the top end of the table. Does not make much sense at all and back to small club mentality.

 

[robotsonic]

If you'd told me a couple of years ago that we'd play most of the season with Ben Davies as a starting CB, I'd have done my nut, so I'm not about to write off Lenglet who was very highly regarded not even that long ago, unlike the Ben Davies that every man and his dog wanted to move on until it turned out that we don't know very much. In Fab and Conte I trust ?

 

[JCRD]

So what is the point in signing him if Davies gets hurt and the guy you bring in to cover for him is not good enough to play against the teams at the top end of the table. Does not make much sense at all and back to small club mentality.

That is true and a valid point. All I was alluding to, was for now if we cannot get who we need, lets not waste time. I know its not ideal.

What would be concernign is if we cant get numbers 1,2,3 on the list - Bastoni, Bremer, Ndicki - although im only assuming they were 1,2,3

 

[AssaTM]

What a world we live in where Clement Lenglet plays in a Barca team that is so poor even making the top 4 in La Liga was an achievement gets judged so stringently - I wonder what other teams thought of Eric Dier pre Conte, as I know what our own fans thought... food for thought considering he's so nailed on now no one discusses replacing him.

Lenglet is a very technically gifted CB, Varane is a very technically gifted CB, but one gifted CB does not make a defence, we should know that better than any other team.

He would be good for us, I'd suspect probably very good even but so would a lot of the other players we've been linked to

Edit: And just to add on top I like Ben Davies as much as the next guy, but who in their right mind is evaluating his ability objectively and putting him on such a high pedestal - Davies has fantastic commitment, he dives in etc, don't be so blinded by such a thing, he's very limited technically across the board and in a back 3 you simply cannot entertain that if you want to push for higher honours - be objective and look at the profile of defender we are after and why we are after them

 

[BedfordshireSpud]

Sometimes it can’t be all done in one window due to availability. If we can’t get our top choices on the left, if we go Bremer and a loan for Lenglet we have strengthened and kept options open for the future. Not a big outlay and can save funds for elsewhere.

 

[alfiemacdaddy]

Sometimes it can’t be all done in one window due to availability. If we can’t get our top choices on the left, if we go Bremer and a loan for Lenglet we have strengthened and kept options open for the future. Not a big outlay and can save funds for elsewhere.

Bremer is going to inter to replace skriniar no?

 

[BedfordshireSpud]

Only if PSG agrees the high fee.and Bremer is open to come to us I seem to remember.

 

[Derryank]

Sometimes it can’t be all done in one window due to availability. If we can’t get our top choices on the left, if we go Bremer and a loan for Lenglet we have strengthened and kept options open for the future. Not a big outlay and can save funds for elsewhere.

RUBBISH - it's our #1 priority this window. Go tell AC no...... unacceptable at this level