Player watch: Christian Eriksen

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I really fear that we are going to lose him this summer. IMO its a huge set back.
Even with the new stadium...its like one step forward and two steps back when we could end up losing Eriksen and Toby in next window.
 

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We get to see the best of Eriksen when he plays together with Kane, Alli & Son. The quartet have a very good understanding of each other’s movements.

Let’s hope that they all return unscathed from the international weekend games.
 

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Thats it were going to get relegated next year.
We lost Bale ; Modric; Berbatov ; Carrick to name but a few but because of the transfer fee we were able to get replacements .
They were not as good but the transfer fee allowed us to purchase two or three players in there place which softens the blow.
I think we can take it as read that Toby and Erriksen are gone and £25 mill for Toby; Erriksen ? we won't get as much as some think but never the less it will add to the transfer kitty Plus what Levy puts in the pot plus the lesser players like Nkoudo;Jansen;and several others means we may be in a position to sign three or four quality replacements and then its up to Poch to work his magic.
 

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I did not compare Eriksen to Townsend per say but as an example that there are a lot of players that score the odd great goal or also the odd great assist it is the fact that they do not do it consistently that defines the great players from the Townsends of this world and there are plenty of examples that do the odd great play but not often enough to make them a great player .
I hope I have explained myself clearer this time .I am also sure that many can name players that come up with great play but not consistent enough to be considered a great player.
Yeah there are loads of players like that, agreed. Townsend is one of them. I strongly believe that Eriksen is not one of them. No where near in fact.

And I have no idea what you're getting at with minutes, surely if he isn't in the top 20 of minutes played then his other stats, given less minutes, are more impressive and not a negative thing?!
 

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He is not in the top twenty of players for minutes played
He is not in the top twenty of players for passes made
He is not in the top twenty of players for goals scored
he is in the top twenty of players for chances created he is in second place behind the one and only Ryan Fraser
This players ability is vastly overstated
And because I don't agree with you that he is the bees knees I suppose that makes me an idiot who knows nothing about football.
Well so be it but the odd occasional great goal or great pass could be attached to many players such as Andros Townsend it does not make him a great player.
The greats do it week in and week out they do not go missing for the biggest part of the season.
If I am the only one that does not get this love in for a player that does it now and then I concede I am an idiot.
You don't need to say yes I am an idiot as I have said that for you.
Passes made is an irrelevant stat as Centre-Backs are often the players that make the most passes.
His role isn't to be a goalscorer so who cares if he's in the top 20 or not (and his record is decent anyway)
As you say he has created many chances and you also conveniently forgot he's also in the Top 3 for PL assists this season, despite being shit apparently.

Comparing Eriksen to Townsend is idiotic. Soz.

I have no idea how Eriksen is the most talked about player on here. As if he's the problem? What about how we've forgotten how to defend on so many occasions?
 

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Lmao. Eriksen has a bad patch and people think we can easily replace him. Maybe Eriksen being in bad form directly correlates to our poor performances, which suggests he's pretty integral. Are people expecting us to replace him with someone who's never going to have a bad patch in their career? In fact, does anyone seriously think we'll adequately replace him at all?

Anyone who thinks Eriksen leaving isn't hugely damaging is in for a pretty big shock IMO.
This is all true, but we were fine after Bale and Modric left. We'll also be fine when Eriksen does as well.

That's not to detract from the quality he has, he's in that top quality bracket of player but we'll build again in a way that suits us to do so.

It's not always about finding a like for like replacement.
 

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I've long believed when Eriksen is on form, so are Spurs. Our dips naturally coincide with his. He'll be hard to replace.

But I wouldn't blame him for moving on. He is at the peak of his career and needs to be playing in a top side that is regularly challenging for honours. I just hope he goes to Barca because I don't think Real Madrid would be a good fit for him. They aren't patient and he is way too understated for them.
 

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I am only saying my opinion and it gives the Eriksen backers someone to have a pop at .
I genuinely don't think he is as good as some think and say that when I know when he is on top form he is fantastic but he does not turn up enough for me to be a big fan also the top players carry there team when things are not going well the likes of Ronaldo ; Bale ;Messi and many others but Eriksen needs the rest to be on form for him to shine.
 

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I am only saying my opinion and it gives the Eriksen backers someone to have a pop at .
I genuinely don't think he is as good as some think and say that when I know when he is on top form he is fantastic but he does not turn up enough for me to be a big fan also the top players carry there team when things are not going well the likes of Ronaldo ; Bale ;Messi and many others but Eriksen needs the rest to be on form for him to shine.
All correct but the club will likely try and replace him with the 11m they bought him for rather than the 60/70m that is needed in todays market.
 

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I am only saying my opinion and it gives the Eriksen backers someone to have a pop at .
I genuinely don't think he is as good as some think and say that when I know when he is on top form he is fantastic but he does not turn up enough for me to be a big fan also the top players carry there team when things are not going well the likes of Ronaldo ; Bale ;Messi and many others but Eriksen needs the rest to be on form for him to shine.
If you keep comparing him to Messi and Ronaldo, yes hes shit...and so is every other player on the planet.
 

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Would none of you take say 40-50m plus Bale (RM will need to supplement his wages ofcourse)?

Id rather Eriksen stay ofcourse, he is a fabulous player and makes us tick BUT Bale? the only issue I have with that is it may impact on Kane in terms of their roles etc
 

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Currently 3rd top assists in the league. 5th last season (tied with Dele). 2nd the season before. 2nd the season before that. Nowhere in 14/15 but he was top 20 for goals. 8th the season before, his first, as a 21 year old, having only previously played in Holland.

Top class player.
 

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This is all true, but we were fine after Bale and Modric left. We'll also be fine when Eriksen does as well.

That's not to detract from the quality he has, he's in that top quality bracket of player but we'll build again in a way that suits us to do so.

It's not always about finding a like for like replacement.
We may have continued to compete for a top 4 spot, despite them leaving, but perhaps we would have done better (and added to the trophy cabinet) had they stayed. Being "fine" and making the next big step to winning a major trophy are two very different things.

Europe's elite clubs don't haul in trophies by selling a star player and replacing them with several inferior players. Look at how selling Ronaldo without splashing out on a replacement is panning out for Real Madrid. 3rd in La Liga and last 16 of the Champions League is "fine", but they're trailing Barcelona by 12 points and never looked like challenging to retain the CL title. You could cite the absence of Zidane, but to me it's clear that they are missing the 44 goals Ronaldo scored last season (and that was a mediocre tally for him). They've scored 1.75 goals per game in La Liga this season, compared to 2.5 per game last season, following the sale of their top scorer...pretty clear correlation.

Eriksen is our most creative player. If anyone wants to dispute his contribution to the team, his creativity has been backed up by his 'chances created' and 'assist' stats every season since he arrived. Although we have other good players in the squad, I can't see any of them stepping up to fill the void. I also can't see anyone of the same level being available for less than £100m, so we can probably all agree that we wouldn't even consider signing a like-for-like replacement.
 

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This season: goal in each game against Inter, assist vs Dortmund, assist vs ManU, assist vs Liverpool, 2 assists vs Chelsea,

Last season: assist vs Dortmund, goal vs Real Madrid, goal vs Juventus, assist vs Chelsea, 2 goals vs Man City, goal vs ManU, goal vs Chelsea, assist vs ManU in the cup Semi.

No fucking idea where the idiotic narratives start.
Not great stats for a world class game changer. You’d expect better wouldn’t you? And the season is almost over. He is good but is he indispensable?
 

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He actually has 9 assists behind Ryan Fraser who is leading the PL this season with 10 for Bournemouth. I am not sure how many games he has played in the PL. What is the return? Is that one assist in three games roughly a season? Somebody who is a stats guru may be better at working this out.
 

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He assists about 1 in 3 this season and if you work out actual minutes played, its more like 1 in 2.5.

Minutes per assist, I only count two (hazard and sane) in the top 10, as better having higher rates. All depends on where the stats come from as they vary. And this is apparently a terrible, half hearted, 'head in spain' season for the lad.

Add in the fact he covers the most distance regularly for us and across the league, which is vital for Poch im sure.

Yes, hes struggling of late and hes off, so its understandable for people to downplay his performance. But, over his whole period at the club, I don't know how much more people actually expect from a player in that position. He regularly leads all the important stats and the creativity falls apart without him.

Not to say we won't move on, the world wont cave in. But to deny Eriksen is a player at the very top of the game is baffling.
 

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If we already had other creative players who could step in the loss of Eriksen would not be so important. Still a big blow, but one we could absorb.

That is not how we roll at Spurs though. Like Dembele, we have not planned for his departure at all, nor allowed him the rest and competition to keep him at optimum sharpness and stop any complacency that has inevitably kicked in.

I agree that Eriksen can go into his shell when you want him to dominate the game and isn’t as consistent as the likes of Silva/De Bruyne etc.

His importance to this team though can not be underestimated. In fact I believe the lack of injuries he has has in Poch’s time here has been absolutely key in our even challenging near the top.

We simply have a dearth of creative players in this squad. We needed an Eriksen alternative for ages and now we have to replace him. Which means we’ll end up with an inferior replacement ( because anyone of similar quality will involve spending a lot of money) and then we’ll still have the problem of no alternative to his replacement.

Put simply, I cannot see any way that losing Toby and Eriksen doesn’t see as regress as a team just at the point where we move into the new stadium.
 

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If we already had other creative players who could step in the loss of Eriksen would not be so important. Still a big blow, but one we could absorb.

That is not how we roll at Spurs though. Like Dembele, we have not planned for his departure at all, nor allowed him the rest and competition to keep him at optimum sharpness and stop any complacency that has inevitably kicked in.

I agree that Eriksen can go into his shell when you want him to dominate the game and isn’t as consistent as the likes of Silva/De Bruyne etc.

His importance to this team though can not be underestimated. In fact I believe the lack of injuries he has has in Poch’s time here has been absolutely key in our even challenging near the top.

We simply have a dearth of creative players in this squad. We needed an Eriksen alternative for ages and now we have to replace him. Which means we’ll end up with an inferior replacement ( because anyone of similar quality will involve spending a lot of money) and then we’ll still have the problem of no alternative to his replacement.

Put simply, I cannot see any way that losing Toby and Eriksen doesn’t see as regress as a team just at the point where we move into the new stadium.
Funny... He's constantly held up against Silva and De Bruyne but he's having a better season than both of them stats wise this season and if you want to mention consistency he's been more consistent than both of them over the last few years, they had their stand out season last year but this year they've tailed off.
 

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Funny... He's constantly held up against Silva and De Bruyne but he's having a better season than both of them stats wise this season and if you want to mention consistency he's been more consistent than both of them over the last few years, they had their stand out season last year but this year they've tailed off.
De Bruyne has had several bad injuries this year and Silva is at the end of his career. During his peak years he was more consistent than Eriksen imo.

Anyway, as I said I’m a big Eriksen fan and losing him is a massive blow.
 
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