New Stadium Details And Discussions

[Roynie]

And would anybody reasonably conclude that this decision is so unresonable that no reasonable body could have come to it? I don't believe that anyone could reasonably conclude that.

No. Sounds reasonable to me!

 

[Spursidol]

Tottenham Hotspur‏@SpursOfficial
The Club and @NewlonHT have officially opened the Cannon Road Development as part of Tottenham's regeneration. pic.twitter.com/Wxgngka6HL

Offsite affordable housing I'd imagine, this development has been covered before in this thread

 

[Spursidol]

And if by magic, OS reads the thread and clafiifies :

Tottenham Hotspur‏@SpursOfficial 15m15 minutes ago
.@RyanMason officially opened the site yesterday that includes affordable homes and Brook House Primary School. pic.twitter.com/Elgdr9HRb8

Tottenham Hotspur‏@SpursOfficial
Read the full story on the latest step in Tottenham's regeneration - http://spurs.to/CannonRdDevelopment… pic.twitter.com/h1Mmebk4EE

222 affordable homes on this site and a primary school

 

[brasil_spur]

chunky on coys on this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...pur-ready-for-US-agent-to-show-the-money.html

it hasn't been made up

And yet the article states "could host NFL games" - whereas we and the NFL have already announced that we ARE hosting NFL games.

 

[Stamford]

Offsite affordable housing I'd imagine, this development has been covered before in this thread

I'm actually moving into the shared ownership flats here in Jan

 

[Roynie]

I'm actually moving into the shared ownership flats here in Jan

Where's the good luck rating when you need it!

 

[slartibartfast]

And would anybody reasonably conclude that this decision is so unresonable that no reasonable body could have come to it? I don't believe that anyone could reasonably conclude that.

Possibly. .. within reason

 

[slartibartfast]

Another pile cap in the works. Be still yer beating heart!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd3LIo-IIAAYpZX.jpg

Haven't been on this thread in an age and frankly can't be arsed to trawl through it all.
I got back as far as this.
Can someone please confirm that this is up to date ish and work is actually going on or is a big dirt bowl just sitting there?
Its 200miles away otherwise I'd pop out and take a look.

 

[raggy]

Haven't been on this thread in an age and frankly can't be arsed to trawl through it all.
I got back as far as this.
Can someone please confirm that this is up to date ish and work is actually going on or is a big dirt bowl just sitting there?
Its 200miles away otherwise I'd pop out and take a look.

There's been constant work going on for months. The site is very active. No need for you to pop out and have a look when the club have put up cameras so you can see what's going on for yourself on stadium TV. The cameras are updated with a new photo every 10mins so just check it out and you can see all the workmen there every day.

Definitely not just a dirt bowl sitting there.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/new-scheme/stadium-tv/

 

[Hoops]

Those heritage people are a pain in the bum. Delayng good investment everywhere. Always moaning about something.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

New Spurs Stadium ‏@NewSpursStadium 11h11 hours ago
'Historic England' November 20th 2015

New Spurs Stadium ‏@NewSpursStadium 11h11 hours ago
'Save Britain's Heritage' November 20th 2015

 

[Hoops]

Id love to know who these clowns are. I bet they are weird.

 

[thinktank]

New Spurs Stadium ‏@NewSpursStadium 11h11 hours ago
'Historic England' November 20th 2015

New Spurs Stadium ‏@NewSpursStadium 11h11 hours ago
'Save Britain's Heritage' November 20th 2015

That's the thing about these organisation - they have to continually justify their existence.

 

[Hoops]

That's the thing about these organisation - they have to continually justify their existence.

But they seem to have a problem with every development.

 

[camaj]

As well as there being a limit to the amount of work that can be done under one set of plans that will be suitable for a revised design

My understanding is that the new plans aren't much different to the ones we have consent for so we could get far into the build before it'd be an issue, perhaps another two years.

The other thought, and I don't know if it's possible, is that the council approve the plans but don't approve the part that relates to the listed buildings. I doubt the club particularly care about pedestrian flow at that point, it seems like it's something they're putting forward to counter any concerns about even more fans coming in. The club could then fight that part of the proposal separately or drop it entirely.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

My understanding is that the new plans aren't much different to the ones we have consent for so we could get far into the build before it'd be an issue, perhaps another two years.

The shape of the stadium has been subtly changed. I think you could probably work out how to site the piles to accommodate that, but it's hard to see how they could get much further than that, except for further site preparation works.

The other thought, and I don't know if it's possible, is that the council approve the plans but don't approve the part that relates to the listed buildings.

It doesn't really work like that. In theory, they could apply a tortuously worded condition to the planning consent, requiring a way to be found to accommodate the existing buildings, but in practice, the committee would probably defer a decision for more negotiations. I doubt that there will be an outright refusal on 8 Dec. Too much investment at stake.

I doubt the club particularly care about pedestrian flow at that point, it seems like it's something they're putting forward to counter any concerns about even more fans coming in. The club could then fight that part of the proposal separately or drop it entirely.

I don't think that's right. It's evident from the way the case has been presented that the predestrian flow was a major restriction on crowd numbers, because of transport requirements and health & safety standards. The removal of the existing buildings has been put squarely on the critical path - the documentation plainly says that it is necessary in order to accommodate the crowds safely. So there isn't really a way to separate the historic buildings issue from the capacity issue.

I think there is a solution, but no one wants it: move the buildings out of the way, but keep them on the overall NDP site. It's expensive and it restricts the club's desired plan, so THFC doesn't want it. It's a compromise on principle and precedent, plus it's not 100% safe for the buildings, so the historic buildings people aren't considering it. But it is feasible.

 

[basespur]

Just my view but the GLA has already given their approval. Yes they said they ideally wouldn't want to lose the buildings but that they'd be ok with Spurs keeping Warmington House and the frontage of the Dispensary and getting rid of the rest. Given that Spurs must have discussed this issue in detail with both the council and the GLA I fully expect the council to approve the plans as they are, with the same stipulations as the GLA made. It just seems too convenient that the GLA recommendations are almost exactly what Spurs said they are planning to do anyway, suggests that this is the compromise already agreed.

If Historic England then decides that they want to bring this to the Secretary of State I can't see him overruling the council and the mayor over some buildings that aren't nationally listed anyway. Only time will tell but we'll find a solution I'm sure.

 

[Lilbaz]

Haven't been on this thread in an age and frankly can't be arsed to trawl through it all.
I got back as far as this.
Can someone please confirm that this is up to date ish and work is actually going on or is a big dirt bowl just sitting there?
Its 200miles away otherwise I'd pop out and take a look.

There was a noce video showing how we are going to recycle the dirt we dig up for use as concrete. It helps you understand what you are looking at on the cameras. On my phone so can't link but i'm sure a kind soul on here might repost it for you.

 

[Remember Sammy Spurs]

 

[sherbornespurs]

I hope English Heritage hasn't seen this video clip - they're likely to slap a protection order on the whole site claiming it to be the location of a 'Site of Special Scientific Interest' (SSSI) on the grounds of it being "The most excellent example of Post-Glacial River Terrace Deposits** in North London".

**(is this correct, Geologists in da house?)