Match Threads - what is it you want?

[CoopsieDeadpool]

It's a shame people who don't contribute can dish out negative ratings. If it were straightforward to restrict the ability to give ratings to only people who actually post (e.g. 10+ posts within the last 30 days), I tihnk SC would be a happier place...probably not something that can be easily managed though.

Weirdly, I couldn't give a damn about ratings I get, but I get angered by ratings others receive.

I don't think I've ever dished out a negative rating, or if I have, it was a very bloody long time ago. I'd rather rate an angry post as funny. If I disagree with someone, I'd rather discuss it than just click "disagree".

I find interacting with the abusive, or negative posters just gives them more opportunity to carry on with their relentless negativity, inability to not mention ENIC/Levy, or proclamations that the world of THFC is nothing but doom & gloom.

 

[qqq1]

I think the main problem is it's getting more Twitter like. I don't mind people moaning if it's warranted and they actually say something of substance. Often it's just hot takes and people going hugely over the top and trying to outdo each other.

 

[dontcallme]

For me, it's not the negativity, it's the toxicity. It's just not a fun thread to be in. If people act like that in any other thread the thread would be locked and the worst perpetrators warned.

It does seem that different people want different things from the thread. Some want to vent and be in the moment. Others want discussion and reason.

There used to be a chat room. That works quite well for the venters as their embarrassing posts are not kept on record. But like a normal thread, it would need a level of moderation and I have no idea who would want that job.

 

[alfiemacdaddy]

I wonder if the mods could identify posts that aren't acceptable (for the reasons outlined in the opening post) during the match day thread and apply a marking to it that indicates its a first warning (like ITK posters are marked as light blue). Also add a caption explaining its an unacceptable post whilst still leaving it in situ. A bit like twitter does to certain tweets I believe.

This would have a positive impact in that it would warn the poster to watch what they are posting and also it would re enforce the kind of tone and content we are trying to get rid of as everyone could see this is an example of an unacceptable post. If they post something else that is unacceptable during the match ban them from the match day thread for a period of time.

Probably not a practical idea but best i could think of

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

It's interesting how few of the persistent offenders have posted in this thread (only one that I've seen) which shows they must have some self awareness as to who they are and what they do which is even more annoying IMHO

Or they just couldn't give a fuck ?

 

[ZiggySpurs]

Spoiler: actual suggestion

It's not the match threads themselves that bother me so much because it's easy enough to block out a single thread. My issue is with the vitriol spilling into player/manager/owner threads during or after the match. Some have suggested closing those threads temporarily and I'd agree with that, but at the mods' discretion. So if it looks like they're going to be overrun due to a bad result, give them a time out until the next morning and hopefully that'll keep all the moaning limited to one thread.

 

[Spursmad321]

Why don't the members using the match thread just use the report button when something offensive is posted.

Then the Mod's can deal with it.

 

[eddiebailey]

The rate at which some people post in the match thread I wonder if they are actually watching the game.

Perhaps restrict posts during matches, so that once you have posted you can’t post again until a set period of time has elapsed, say every 3 minutes.

 

[spursfan77]

The rate at which some people post in the match thread I wonder if they are actually watching the game.

Perhaps restrict posts during matches, so that once you have posted you can’t post again until a set period of time has elapsed, say every 3 minutes.

I suggested that the other day. If it is possible to do I think it would work really well. Would give everyone time to think and probably consider what they say.

 

[eddiebailey]

I suggested that the other day. If it is possible to do I think it would work really well. Would give everyone time to think and probably consider what they say.

Yes, I saw your suggestion after I posted mine. I would much sooner read fewer, more considered posts, rather than have to scroll through endless repetitive abuse of our latest scapegoat.

 

[PeeEyeEmPee]

I personally think people need to get out more. As long as there are no personal attacks on other posters, I don’t see the problem with people giving opinions, whether they’re “fun” for me or not.

We’re all so emotionally invested in a team that has horribly underperformed for such a long time now. What kind of atmosphere is it that people expect?

Whinge and moan as much as you like IMO. If I ever have a problem with it, then that’s MY problem.

 

[Aphex]

Match threads are real time, fast paced and reactionary. If fans are watching the game you aren’t going to get many well thought out detailed posts until maybe half time or full time. During the game it will be posts saying, “wow awesome skill” or “wtf was that from Son” Exactly how you would get in the sitting room with friends or at the stadium. Plus you have some intoxicated fans who let emotions and the moment get the better of them.

There is a fair bit of negativity in the match thread, but saying things like “I hope we don’t see player x play for the club again” isn’t toxic. Criticising the board after a match isn’t toxic, but maybe off topic in that thread. If people get offended by things like that then they are too sensitive. Saying things like I hope player x dies is completely unacceptable but calling a player a donkey isn’t, if they’ve genuinely played like one. Also it’s worth remembering that we’ve seen a hell of a lot of poor performances the last few years. Spurs have been doing quite poorly and have let the fans down in numerous big games under End of Poch era and Jose, Nuno and Conte.

At the same time on top of that, people naturally moan more when things go wrong. When we win, people will be happy and content and probably go and do something else with their time as it’s “mission accomplished”, when we lose you’ll get people venting as it can be cathartic to get it off your chest. This will always skew how the forum content is perceived at any one time.

Another thing, all clubs football forums are like this. You can’t silence dissent or you end up like COYS (or Russia) where it’s a happy clapping echo chamber which is just awful.

I think someone suggested two threads, one where it’s positive only and the other where it’s can be both but will naturally be more negative. Anyone posting negative in the positive thread gets a ban from both match threads. Additionally the positive thread will be the only one that will need moderation in case you get posters who disregard the rules. If anyone goes too OTT toxic in the negative thread there is always the report button. The members who want to avoid seeing constant negativity can just view the positive thread. Just call one praise / criticism.

 

[muppetman]

I've largely stopped using the match thread because it rarely lines up with the game I'm watching - I think it's a close run thing and we need to tweak a few things but the thread tells me everything is shit and we should fold the club.

I'm happy avoiding it but I'm more bothered by the same negative posts by the same posters making exactly the same point in every single thread. Yes, I know you hate ENIC and think they are the root of all evil (and you may well be right), but there is no need to shoe-horn that repeatedly into every single thread going. I've tried using the ignore function but it makes for weird threads and conversations - perhaps the option to ignore certain posters in specific threads or sub-forum?

The non-Spurs parts of the site are the best bits for me!

 

[midspur]

Getting Spurs to win more might help... then again!

 

[jonnyp]

Just don’t have a match thread.
Have a pre match and a post match thread, but shut it down for the 90 minutes

Why? Just don't click on the match thread then if that's what you want.

 

[riggi]

Didn’t we have a thread full of peoples dumb posts over stock photos? Bit of a hall of shame.

Bring that back.

 

[DiscoD1882]

I think if SC supply some ice cream. With hundreds and thousands and strawberry sauce before the start of the game. And maybe some crayons. A lot of these issues would just disappear….

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

I think if SC supply some ice cream. With hundreds and thousands and strawberry sauce before the start of the game. And maybe some crayons. A lot of these issues would just disappear….

I dont want strawberry I WANT CHOCOLATE waaaaaaaaaa.....

Even that would kick off mate.

 

[Gb160]

Didn’t we have a thread full of peoples dumb posts over stock photos? Bit of a hall of shame.

Bring that back.

There aren't enough stock photos.

 

[ReadieSpur]

I think people just need to not be so precious or uptight about the match threads. Emotions run high during a game and the thread is a place for them to vent or rejoice. If people get offended by that then maybe don't join the match thread.

Its equally annoying reading sanctimonious posts in there calling the contributors "Bed wetters" or Children, etc.

Im sure a post match reflection thread would read a whole lot differently once people have a chance to calm down.