Liverpool Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[LDNYid]

When I made that post I'd actually completely forgotten about the new stadium. We're already looking like the sort of team we'd become with the extra revenue from the stadium. Worth mentioning that the new training ground looks like it is already paying dividends, as our players have never looked fitter or happier.

What a great time to be a Spurs fan!

Agreed. The infrastructure is, and will continue to, make us more attractive to potential recruits and the increased capacity and sponsorship etc regarding the new stadium will help to close the gap on those with high turnovers than us (admittedly, at the moment, we don't seem to need the extra funds to compete with a lot of them!).

 

[philip]

So why did klopp run and hug Kane? I understand part of it but it's slightly strange at the same time. Kane looked very awkward from it as well

I wouldn't have been happy if poch had hugged coutiniho.

Poch and Coutinho world have made sense. He took him to Espanyol

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Yes you have a point, but with global sponsorship, big corporate interests and all that bollocks it won't happen for Euro16.

Tall, good looking, clean living Eric dier will be worth more to sponsors than short, fat, old age pensioner prostitute shagging, chav Wayne Rooney.

The fa must be thinking that someone upstairs adores them for giving them alli and dier. In a couple of years at most, dier and alli will be the embodiment of an advertisers dream.

 

[tooey]

I understand what the purpose is. But to keep trying the same thing and playing only one way when its obvious to anyone with any sense that its causing you problems and just a matter of time before you concede is frankly stupid imo.
Using 'how Barcelona play etc' as an example is not really relevant is it?
The idea to play around the edge of your own goal area in the hope to invite pressure so maybe, hopefully, you can break and hit on the counter has a bit of a flaw in its thinking wouldn't you agree?
I'd have thought the sensible and best way would be to mix it up a bit to confuse the opposition rather than inviting them to camp in our half of the pitch.
Lloris did boot it out a few times early on but that was it. Then he repeatedly threw it out to defenders who were facing the wrong way with a Liverpool player up their arse and could do fk all but pass it straight back or fk it up.
Not having a pop at you mate but as I said it does my head in and is idiotic.

Granted, we should mix it up and of course long ball has it's success ala Leicester. The issue is that we don't have an awful lot of pace to chase things but most of our players are technically very good and we work well with the ball on the deck in condensed spaces, so we're just playing to our strengths. I think as good as Wimmer has been, having two out and out ball players at CB in Verts and Toby gives us much more control with the ball in our own half. I also do think the Barcelona is relevant as it happens, considering they're the masters of it, they play the same way and I was giving an example of how and why it's deployed.

 

[StartingPrice]

All this emphasis on Leicester, it's the gooners that worry me.

They had an easy run-out today - really, that just matched our win against Bournemouth. They still have to go away to the two teams immediately below them in the table - Citeh look like they have finally realised that they could end up outside the top 4, Spammers haven't lost a game at CraptonBolAnnoyingParkGround since the 22nd August. And the Goons still have to travel to Sunderland, too. They could just as easily get sucked into a dog-fight for 4th with these clubs.

As for us, that was possibly our hardest remaining game. Hiddinck has made Cheslea difficult to beat - but more draw specialists than anything. United have been poor away from home. We will have Verts back, N'Jie may be able to finally contribute, and hopefully Lamela's absence was just a precaution. We no longer have fixture pile-up, there will be no more international breaks, for the most part we will get proper rests between games and Poch will have more time to prepare for games now.

This may be an unpopular thing to say, but what the hell, I'll put it out there - I believe we can go through to the end of the season unbeaten. I don't believe the Goons will.

 

[littlewilly]

They had an easy run-out today - really, that just matched our win against Bournemouth. They still have to go away to the two teams immediately below them in the table - Citeh look like they have finally realised that they could end up outside the top 4, Spammers haven't lost a game at CraptonBolAnnoyingParkGround since the 22nd August. And the Goons still have to travel to Sunderland, too. They could just as easily get sucked into a dog-fight for 4th with these clubs.

As for us, that was possibly our hardest remaining game. Hiddinck has made Cheslea difficult to beat - but more draw specialists than anything. United have been poor away from home. We will have Verts back, N'Jie may be able to finally contribute, and hopefully Lamela's absence was just a precaution. We no longer have fixture pile-up, there will be no more international breaks, for the most part we will get proper rests between games and Poch will have more time to prepare for games now.

This may be an unpopular thing to say, but what the hell, I'll put it out there - I believe we can go through to the end of the season unbeaten. I don't believe the Goons will.

Thank you for your reassuring logic. My head agrees with you; my heart still says it's the gooners that worry me.

 

[whitelanefever]

Thank you for your reassuring logic. My head agrees with you; my heart still says it's the gooners that worry me.

They can't be dismissed but we should only concentrate on what we can do & no matter what happens as someone else said earlier in this thread we should be extremely proud of this squad of players

 

[whitesocks]

You must have lived under a rock last season

For me, defensively Walker has always been solid, apart from when he did something crazy.

 

[StartingPrice]

They played like it was a cup final.

They did, and credit to them. I've taken a fair amount of change out of the Dips in recent seasons, but their commitment and intensity was impressive today.

Also a compliment to us, I think, that they got so motivated as they knew that anything less and they would be found out.

 

[StartingPrice]

A fair result. Just because we dominated possession, doesn't automatically mean we dererved to win. They created plenty of chances and Lloris was the busier keeper.

Gutted not to win as I can't see us not dropping any points in the run in, but could be an important point. You never know.

Our clear weakness is not making the most of good positions in the final third and again it was apparent today. So many over or underhit passes, particularly in the first half.

At least Diet didn't get booked.

Apparently, we created more chances than them - and we were the away team

 

[StartingPrice]

Arsenal only 4 points off us now with a game in hand... Going to be tough to stay ahead of them with our comparative fixtures, let alone win the league.

ArseAnal have to go away to the teams directly below them, Citeh and Spammers - going to be tough for them not to get dragged into a dogfight for 4th

Today was arguably our hardest remaining fixture...against the team in 9th.

Why exactly do you think them having to play away to Citeh who are 4th, and look like they have finally realised they will have to fight to stay in the top four, and the Spammers who are unbeaten at home since August the 22nd, as well as a tricky away game to Sunderland, are so much easier than our remaining games?

 

[StartingPrice]

Really hope we can keep Poch, I think thats the key, the players seem to love playing for him. I've got a nagging fear that he'll go (probably haunted by our recent past), he seems really ambitious, and the way he left the saints after building something showed this. I hope he can see that he can build what he wants and realise his ambitions at our club.

Jaysus...not this again?!?!?!

Honestly, mate, this has been explained so many times I'm amazed they haven't found an explanation on papyrus buried under the pyramids.

He left Southampton because they wouldn't back the chairman he was loyal to and wouldn't assure him that his squad wouldn't be broken up. Something that was pretty important to him as his young squad at Espanyol had been broken up after impressing (and that was after the senior players had already been flogged). He was right to be unhappy that there were no reassurances on this matter - Southampton sold, I think, 7 first team players, and more the next summer. This was a squad that Obscene Whinger stated would win the CL if they were kept together.

So, yeah, a little bit peeved that the chairman who took him to St Mary's was going to be backed for some very modest investment in the squad and that the board were happy to asset strip the squad he had assembled even though they could have achieved a hell of a lot if they had kept them together.

You should read up on it. A good start would be to following the link, here:

What our opponents' fans are saying

 

[StartingPrice]

Thank you for your reassuring logic. My head agrees with you; my heart still says it's the gooners that worry me.

My heart is still thump thumpetty thumping from that match. Not easy being in a title race...but a damned sight easier than being in a relegation dogfight

 

[Wellspurs]

When I made that post I'd actually completely forgotten about the new stadium. We're already looking like the sort of team we'd become with the extra revenue from the stadium. Worth mentioning that the new training ground looks like it is already paying dividends, as our players have never looked fitter or happier.

What a great time to be a Spurs fan!

More productive?

 

[mattie g]

More productive?

Comfortable, not drinking too much.

 

[ajspurs]

Even though he wasn't great (although not as bad as some are claiming in my opinion) I actually thought Son looked more lively in an offensive sense than he has done in a while. Maybe that says more about his poor recent performances than any sort of good one yesterday but he looked lively in the final third at times to me and was unlucky not to score with that good effort that flashed across goal. Had a few pops at goal which I don't mind seeing from him as he has a good shot.
Unfortunately for him he'll be back on the bench when Lamela comes back so it could be back to square one. I can't believe his touch and passing can be so consistently bad at times though, the time where someone put him through on the right hand side in the second half, was kinda wide but had he taken the ball in his stride it could have created a great chance and he got the ball caught in his feet which was just too typical of him right now. His movement with the ball just seems a bit all over the place, jagged at times and far from fluid.

 

[sak11]

Naff off sky

Sure if we we were 9th and they were going for the title they would be starting the analysis talking about the 9th place team

Does my head in. Every year it's the same

@This and subsequent posts: I haven't checked the final figures, but somewhere quite close to the final whistle Sky put up the total shots - Liverpool had 15, we had 14. We were the away team. I would say that in an average game the ratio of shots is usually something more like 2 to the home team to 1 to the away team.

I think you need to digest that. They aren't subbuteo figures - the oppos move and try to stop you playing and tackle and try and score and things. In point of fact, I thought Liverpool showed a tremendous amount of commitment and energy - more than I was expecting, TBH. So away to a half decent team who really made it difficult for us we more-or-less matched them for shots. Both sides also created dangerous situations that weren't capitalized on - I think we shaded Liverpool with them.

Liverpool no more deserved to win than we did, and I can only assume that it is your disappointment that made you say that we were poor, because we certainly weren't. I felt that some of our players, particularly Alli, looked a bit tired, but that isn't being poor (yeah, thanks stupid International Break). Give the lads some credit, they fought hard and created a fair amount. And give some credit to the Mickey's, too, eh

No other team we play until the end of the season will play like liverpool did yesterday. None of them. This is why Im very confident going in to this final run in, except maybe Chelsea away as its a London derby and those games never go to form!

I don't agree with the talk of the players being tired after the international break. Alli last played on Saturday and was rested for the Holland game. He had a whole week to get over it. So yes he was poor yesterday, but it was not because of the international break. As a 19 yr old we can't expect him to be on it every single game. The consistency he has shown so far this season has far surpassed anything I would have expected of him. He wasnt the only one not completely at the races, as in the first half Harry looked slow of thought and leggy, Son was just rubbish, and even Moussa had a bit of an off day - I think we are so used to pressing the opposition but not the other way round!

 

[Derryank]

Wish we had a player like Coutinho!

He's Danish and takes our free kicks....

 

[Derryank]

I thought the draw was a fair result. Pool's pressing(impressive!) in the first half really tested our defence, but all credit to them they still maintained their composure and played our style of football throughout the game. Son had several chances to put the game to our advantage, but so did they....thank you Hugo. Kane's goal was another slick moment of absolute genius. Unstoppable....all said and done, I cannot remember the last time I've watched a Spurs game and expected us to NOT give up. This teams mentality is infectious to every Spurs fan across the globe...I honestly thought we'd take all 3 points with those last two corners....#wegoagain...COYS!

 

[1882andallthat]

So much for theories about Liverpool taking it a little easier and putting out a few reserves before their 'cup final' against Dortmund. If that's taking them it easy then I would not want to be facing them again this season hungrier and sharper.
Both sides played well and the intensity from both sides was there for all to see. It would have been harsh on either side to come away with nothing. As has been said before, for the neutral it was a fantastic watch, for me I was a bundle of nerves from start to finish.Yes if we were being ultra critical we could have won if we had been a little sharper up front but by the same token so could they have done. Both sides were a credit to their managers and fans.

In seasons gone by, after going 1-0 down with Liverpool's intensity they showed yesterday we would have folded and lost by two or 3 goals, it's a credit to the players that they came back fighting in adversity and got something from the game. Yes we could end up being 7 points behind Leicester by the end of this weekend and to that extent it is 2 points lost, but I agree with an earlier poster who said that if we don't win the league, we won't be looking back and thinking that this is the game where where we lost it. I truly believe that if Leicester or Arsenal had played Liverpool yesterday and Liverpool had played that well I don't think either of them would have walked out of Anfield with 3 points. Who knows it may be 1 point gained. Let's hope so. COYS you have made me proud.