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Lewis Holtby - Sold

guate

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Personally I'm sorry to see him go as I loved his enthusiasm, passion and constantly smiling, happy face. He seemed to be extremely popular too with the rest of the squad.
 

goughie1966

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Personally I'm sorry to see him go as I loved his enthusiasm, passion and constantly smiling, happy face. He seemed to be extremely popular too with the rest of the squad.

Imagine how sorry we'll feel when he rolls out for the German national team in a couple of years...
 

mill

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I get the impression that Poch like him as Holtby was on the bench for our first games ahead of Lennon or Townsend. I think it just came down to the fact Holtby wanted to play every game rather than just be a squad player, which is fair enough.

I don't think people realise how big a squad we have and that we can't give enough game time to players to keep them happy and allow them to develop. We're in the el not cl and don't pay stupid wages
 

Metalhead

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Why?

It just the pienaar situation all over again, levy cant turn down a punt
Yeah, similar kind of thing to be fair. Pienaar was a decent player but really not what was needed at the time.
 

Air Jordan 3

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I don't think people realise how big a squad we have and that we can't give enough game time to players to keep them happy and allow them to develop. We're in the el not cl and don't pay stupid wages
Based on our past injury record, the squad is the right size (except BAE, Holtby & Khumalo).

Fingers crossed, it seems we have a manager that is doing something in training that prevents injuries (as he did at Saints). Let it stay that way!
 

Antilokhos

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I know you're kinda joking but that's not really Moneyball, it's more like applying stockmarket speculation to football players.

Which, I think, is how both Levy and Lewis both made all their money(?).
The Moneyball concept is finding skill sets that the market undervalues and taking advantage of those market inefficiencies to develop a strength at a relatively low cost freeing up resources to invest elsewhere; not really speculation per se.

A simple example would be nationality. I think most agree that English players trade at a premium relative to other nationalities. If DeAndre Yedlin had been a 21 year old English RB who impressed in the World Cup he'd have sold for more than £2-3 million. Dutch and Brazilian players often have the same "prestige" tax tacked on.

Not sure on Levy, but I believe Lewis made his money on currency fluctuations.
 

sweyid

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Had high hopes of Holtby from watching him at Schalke and from his brilliant sub against Norwich, but after that he really never impressed. Sad to see the person go, but the player sadly never lived up to the expectations. Hopefully he can help Hamburg out, got sort of a soft spot for them.
 

DaSpurs

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Think he's a bit better than german relegation fodder..

The single only German team to never be outside of the Bundesliga in its 51+ year history is "relegation fodder" after one year of cutting it close? Kinda like how Chelsea and Man City are "bigger clubs" than Spurs because they bought their way into the upper echelon of English football in the 21st century?
 

tdk101

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Daniel Busch ‏@dan_bu 3h3 hours ago
HSV have signed Lewis Holtby permanently on a four-year deal. €6.5m to be paid next summer.

Daniel Busch ‏@dan_bu 3h3 hours ago
Option to sign Holtby permanently automatically activated after 3 games. HSV just didn't have the funds to buy him this summer.

This is the guy that broke the news about Holtby to HSV originally.
That almost sounds like word-by-word what I posted in Winter transfer mission" thread,:wideyed: Does Daniel Bush get his info from this forum?
 

dondo

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Based on our past injury record, the squad is the right size (except BAE, Holtby & Khumalo).

Fingers crossed, it seems we have a manager that is doing something in training that prevents injuries (as he did at Saints). Let it stay that way!

Still think we could lose paulinho and possibly Lennon and not Weaken us
 
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