Jan v Eunice with the blue rinse.

[Dundalk_Spur]

I for one was delighted that this happened last night.

Jan showed more passion and professional attitude (not saying he doesn't have it, just that he showed it), than we have seen from him before.

As an ever present who was let down by a club captain, he drove home the lack of awareness and ability that Kaboul has been showing. This may have caused a little tension but I bet the manager was delighted that someone stood up and was counted to say what had to be said and not be more worried about rocking the boat.

We need winners in our club and Jan showed a winners mentality last night.

More of it on Saturday I say (cos I will be there for the first time in about 9 years!!!!)

 

[wosH]

What actually happened?

 

[Dundalk_Spur]

What actually happened?

Jan started giving Kaboul the verbals, mainly due to his non existent positioning sense.

 

[Rout-Ledge]

I'm hoping that given our recent improvements Jan will see sense and sign a new deal. He isn't a flawless defender by any means, but he's undeniably a quality player and I have much more confidence in the team seeing him step out than I do with most of our defensive players.

Kaboul on the other hand...It's fucking ridiculous that he was made captain in the first place, and everyone knew it at the time.

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

I for one was delighted that this happened last night.

Jan showed more passion and professional attitude (not saying he doesn't have it, just that he showed it), than we have seen from him before.

As an ever present who was let down by a club captain, he drove home the lack of awareness and ability that Kaboul has been showing. This may have caused a little tension but I bet the manager was delighted that someone stood up and was counted to say what had to be said and not be more worried about rocking the boat.

We need winners in our club and Jan showed a winners mentality last night.

More of it on Saturday I say (cos I will be there for the first time in about 9 years!!!!)

I was at the game last night and Verts was majestic, he really is a quality player when in form. In the 2nd half Vorm had a right go at Kaboul as well.

I would like to add that I thought Paulinho was very good last night.

 

[Dundalk_Spur]

I was at the game last night and Verts was majestic, he really is a quality player when in form. In the 2nd half Vorm had a right go at Kaboul as well.

I would like to add that I thought Paulinho was very good last night.

All true, and you can have all the footballing quality in the world but without the right mentality its just a waste.

With Spurs in the past 30 odd years of me supporting them, we have for the majority lacked players with the right mentality.

Why do we always yearn for a Blanchflower, Mackay, Roberts, Perryman??? We need our modern versions of these to stand up and be counted.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

I'm hoping that given our recent improvements Jan will see sense and sign a new deal. He isn't a flawless defender by any means, but he's undeniably a quality player and I have much more confidence in the team seeing him step out than I do with most of our defensive players.

Kaboul on the other hand...It's fucking ridiculous that he was made captain in the first place, and everyone knew it at the time.

Yeah. I didn't, i thought it was an okay selection to be honest with you. I wanted Hugo but was okay with Eunice.

I have changed my mind though ... should be Lloris with Verts vice.

EDIT: I was as mystified as anyone with Adebayor!

 

[Rout-Ledge]

Yeah. I didn't, i thought it was an okay selection to be honest with you. I wanted Hugo but was okay with Eunice.

I have changed my mind though ... should be Lloris with Verts vice.

EDIT: I was as mystified as anyone with Adebayor!

A player who hasn't proven his form or fitness for years shouldn't be made captain unless they are a talisman or have exceptional leadership qualities. Kaboul doesn't qualify for either of those exceptions in my book.

I can understand why Jan wasn't given any responsibility, given the contract situation.

I wasn't mystified by the Adebayor selection, as I viewed it purely as an attempt to appease/encourage him not to behave in ways that are not conducive to squad cohesion. Obviously it didn't work.

Lloris was the natural choice for me. He's an ever-present, he's a consummate professional, he's captain of one of the most prestigious national sides in the word, and he's our best player. No brainer.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

A player who hasn't proven his form or fitness for years shouldn't be made captain unless they are a talisman or have exceptional leadership qualities. Kaboul doesn't qualify for either of those exceptions in my book.

I can understand why Jan wasn't given any responsibility, given the contract situation.

I wasn't mystified by the Adebayor selection, as I viewed it purely as an attempt to appease/encourage him not to behave in ways that are not conducive to squad cohesion. Obviously it didn't work.

Lloris was the natural choice for me. He's an ever-present, he's a consummate professional, he's captain of one of the most prestigious national sides in the word, and he's our best player. No brainer.

So we agree on Lloris at least!

See I thought that Kaboul DID have leadership qualities. He is imposing, stands tall, head up at all times, bright eyes, wet nose ...

no. wait. that was Berbatov ... as you were.

 

[nicdic]

I think everyone talks about the choice for Kaboul as captain letting things that have happened this season get in the way. At the time of choice, he was already vice captain, probably was well respected within the club, and so stripping it off him might have been rocking the boat. Obviously in hindsight we all think it was a bonkers decision, but at the time it made tonnes of sense.

As for last night, his positioning, particularly early on was horrendous. Caught out massively for the first goal, and Jan had to have words a couple of times about who was marking and how close or far away he was. One time in particular they really argued for 30 seconds or so. Fans then sang Jan's name, followed by Kaboul's.

 

[Mr Pink]

Many were perplexed with the decision even if he was a popular choice, as he simply wasn't good enough to be a first team regular.

I guess there were no other stand outs and that's why Pochettino elected to give it to him but its no surprise at all that he isn't playing in the first eleven anymore. The way Carlton Cole bullied him in every aspect of the game on the first day of the season I knew it was curtains for him - at this level, starting regularly for a top 6 side. It was on the cards regardless, but that was like the final nail in the coffin - and shortly after he was made Club captain. It felt wrong on that basis.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

A player who hasn't proven his form or fitness for years shouldn't be made captain unless they are a talisman or have exceptional leadership qualities. Kaboul doesn't qualify for either of those exceptions in my book.

I can understand why Jan wasn't given any responsibility, given the contract situation.

I wasn't mystified by the Adebayor selection, as I viewed it purely as an attempt to appease/encourage him not to behave in ways that are not conducive to squad cohesion. Obviously it didn't work.

Lloris was the natural choice for me. He's an ever-present, he's a consummate professional, he's captain of one of the most prestigious national sides in the word, and he's our best player. No brainer.

Carl Froch is that you?

 

[jonnyp]

Kaboul's positioning has always been suspect, even when he was playing his best football for us. Especially on crosses from either side, where he always gets caught ball watching instead of marking his man. I've commented on it in countless match threads over the years.

 

[WestBelfast Spurs]

I for one was delighted that this happened last night.

Jan showed more passion and professional attitude (not saying he doesn't have it, just that he showed it), than we have seen from him before.

As an ever present who was let down by a club captain, he drove home the lack of awareness and ability that Kaboul has been showing. This may have caused a little tension but I bet the manager was delighted that someone stood up and was counted to say what had to be said and not be more worried about rocking the boat.

We need winners in our club and Jan showed a winners mentality last night.

More of it on Saturday I say (cos I will be there for the first time in about 9 years!!!!)

Enjoy mate (what part of Dundalk you from)

 

[cliff jones]

A player who hasn't proven his form or fitness for years shouldn't be made captain unless they are a talisman or have exceptional leadership qualities. Kaboul doesn't qualify for either of those exceptions in my book.

I can understand why Jan wasn't given any responsibility, given the contract situation.

I wasn't mystified by the Adebayor selection, as I viewed it purely as an attempt to appease/encourage him not to behave in ways that are not conducive to squad cohesion. Obviously it didn't work.

Lloris was the natural choice for me. He's an ever-present, he's a consummate professional, he's captain of one of the most prestigious national sides in the word, and he's our best player. No brainer.

best post I've read on here for ages. Poch really undermined his start. But recently he's been picking the right teams, and sidelining the wrong'uns. I'd love to see Dier given a chance at CB, but if Poch wants to do more work on him first then OK.

 

[whitesocks]

Many were perplexed with the decision even if he was a popular choice, as he simply wasn't good enough to be a first team regular.

I guess there were no other stand outs and that's why Pochettino elected to give it to him but its no surprise at all that he isn't playing in the first eleven anymore. The way Carlton Cole bullied him in every aspect of the game on the first day of the season I knew it was curtains for him - at this level, starting regularly for a top 6 side. It was on the cards regardless, but that was like the final nail in the coffin - and shortly after he was made Club captain. It felt wrong on that basis.

He had a great game against arsenal though.
And if it is true that he confronted MP on our negative style of play,
then you have to admire his bravery if not his intelligence, coming off a particularly poor personal performance against stoke.

But sure, since then MP's stock has risen (thanks to Kane) and there doesn't look a way back for Kaboul.

I think it is important to have an outfield captain, but there was a pretty dismal choice of candidates, once Daws was pushed out. Kaboul was as good a pick as any.

Vertonghen has had a good season, and shows commitment unlike last season.
If he signs his contract, then for me he can have the armband.

 

[Mr Pink]

He had a great game against arsenal though.
And if it is true that he confronted MP on our negative style of play,
then you have to admire his bravery if not his intelligence, coming off a particularly poor personal performance against stoke.

But sure, since then MP's stock has risen (thanks to Kane) and there doesn't look a way back for Kaboul.

I think it is important to have an outfield captain, but there was a pretty dismal choice of candidates, once Daws was pushed out. Kaboul was as good a pick as any.

Vertonghen has had a good season, and shows commitment unlike last season.
If he signs his contract, then for me he can have the armband.

Lloris or Vertonghen were the obvious choices from the outside, that's for sure.

 

[Dundalk_Spur]

Enjoy mate (what part of Dundalk you from)

I lived just outside the town in the beautiful countryside, but moved 9 years ago to Castleblayney Co Monaghan.

Yeah hopefully its a good game, taking the boy to his first Spurs game, hoping to fully convert him against a lot of pressure from Arsenal and Man Utd influences.

 

[ronspurs]

i think jv let himself down last season with his attitude on the pitch and that "injury" at anfield last season, I do think a lot of this was caused by there being a non-existent relationship between player and sherwood, however it does raise questionmarks as to whether he is the man to wear the armband for our great club

 

[Gassin's finest]

Not a coincidence that both Jan and Vorm had a go at him.

Kept leaving his man and letting them drift into space behind... he was so far adrift from Sodell it was shocking. Vlad kept having to come over to cover, leaving the flank woefully exposed. Second half he was calling Vorm out to come claim the ball, but with far too much ground to cover, and far too much pressure. Kab should have dealt with it much earlier... direct pass back or cleared it.

I'm going to be honest, I've never really rated him, not since day one. Yeah he's a big twat, but he's never inspired great confidence in me.