Have you ever felt more disconnected?

[nipponyid]

We don't have a proper club anymore very depressing.

Didn't Keith Burkenshaw say that in '84?

 

[shelfboy68]

Didn't Keith Burkenshaw say that in '84?

He did yes

 

[Styopa]

I think this is probably our worst period in the last fifteen years. We have had blips of one or two years during that period but I think this is the most prolonged period of mediocrity. We’ve not really had anything to shout about for the last four years so it’s understandable so many of us are feeling disconnected. We’ve also had to cope with losing our home. The new stadium is incredible but the old White Hart Lane had something special and we haven’t found that at the new ground yet.

I also agree with @spursfan77 that VAR has been overall detrimental to the game. It takes a lot of the pleasure away from seeing us score a goal.

Having said all that, I really like having Conte at the club and do look forward to our matches much more now than any other time for the last few years. Our recent form has been terrible but I felt extremely connected to the club during ours wins against Leicester and Man City. Those wins reminded me how exciting football can be. Hopefully we will back him this summer like Liverpool backed Klopp and we will all feel very differently this time next year.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

It's really quite simple.

Look, the world, especially the current one, is filled with ugliness & things so much more important than football/Tottenham Hotspur.

Yeah, of course we're emotionally & financially invested. Once this fucking club gets it's claws into you, that's it, life fucking sentence!

But change how you think.
.
Use THFC as an escape from the ugliness of an ever deteriorating world.

Use the match threads as a platform to laugh at the genuinely laughable outbursts some people have, only to be made to look a total thunder**** moments later when the player they've been slagging off does something magic.

Honestly, everything is so much more enjoyable, fun even, if you're just able to take that step back.

I genuinely only come on here for a laugh now.

People have got so serious over the last couple of years, turning on each other regularly on here. And for what? Because we lost a game? Because someone played shit? Because the owners haven't spent what you'd/we'd like? Because we've once again won nothing?

If you're honest with yourself. You expect those things to happen anyway because, lads, it's Tottenham!

Just expect to be everyone's favourite banter club, including your own. ?‍

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

It's really quite simple.

Look, the world, especially the current one, is filled with ugliness & things so much more important than football/Tottenham Hotspur.

Yeah, of course we're emotionally & financially invested. Once this fucking club gets it's claws into you, that's it, life fucking sentence!

But change how you think.
.
Use THFC as an escape from the ugliness of an ever deteriorating world.

Use the match threads as a platform to laugh at the genuinely laughable outbursts some people have, only to be made to look a total thunder**** moments later when the player they've been slagging off does something magic.

Honestly, everything is so much more enjoyable, fun even, if you're just able to take that step back.

I genuinely only come on here for a laugh now.

People have got so serious over the last couple of years, turning on each other regularly on here. And for what? Because we lost a game? Because someone played shit? Because the owners haven't spent what you'd/we'd like? Because we've once again won nothing?

If you're honest with yourself. You expect those things to happen anyway because, lads, it's Tottenham!

Just expect to be everyone's favourite banter club, including your own. ?‍

Good post and attitude, just use supporting Spurs as comedy and as an escape from the sad/scary times in Ukraine etc.

Tbh I don't think it has helped that we've hired 3 very defensive mangers in a row, we are not used to this kind of low possession structured defensive football and when you combine that with a stale squad, no back-up to Kane and throw in a pandemic its not a good mix but strip it all back we have a world class manager, some good players we can get behind and in the scheme of things its all fine and nothing to moan about.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

to be honest i absolutely love this club with every fibre of my being but at the same time absolutely hate it with every fibre of my being too.

COYS but also fuck em at the same time, not sure if it's just me but thats how i feel.

 

[Tottenham_God]

to be honest i absolutely love this club with every fibre of my being but at the same time absolutely hate it with every fibre of my being too.

COYS but also fuck em at the same time, not sure if it's just me but thats how i feel.

Would you say Tottenham fulfills some sort of proxy religious impulse of yours? Or that the club is some sort of archetypal pillar that forms one of the stronger mental modules of yours?

 

[Tottenham_God]

It's really quite simple.

Look, the world, especially the current one, is filled with ugliness & things so much more important than football/Tottenham Hotspur.

Yeah, of course we're emotionally & financially invested. Once this fucking club gets it's claws into you, that's it, life fucking sentence!

But change how you think.
.
Use THFC as an escape from the ugliness of an ever deteriorating world.

Use the match threads as a platform to laugh at the genuinely laughable outbursts some people have, only to be made to look a total thunder**** moments later when the player they've been slagging off does something magic.

Honestly, everything is so much more enjoyable, fun even, if you're just able to take that step back.

I genuinely only come on here for a laugh now.

People have got so serious over the last couple of years, turning on each other regularly on here. And for what? Because we lost a game? Because someone played shit? Because the owners haven't spent what you'd/we'd like? Because we've once again won nothing?

If you're honest with yourself. You expect those things to happen anyway because, lads, it's Tottenham!

Just expect to be everyone's favourite banter club, including your own. ?‍

Love it. Just like I love a post loss frustration/regret wank and I love a post win ferocious/regret wank

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Even away from the macro level stuff like the direction the club is going or actual success etc...There just isn't anything to excite me over the course of 90 minutes. Other than a flash of creative brilliance from Kane it is stale and boring. Perhaps that's why I enjoyed Ndombele - because he would give a moment ( amongst crap) that wowed. Or Lamela gave an unpredictability or a reason to think he cared as much as you.

The noise of seats at WHL as everyone stood in unison as Lennon sprinted in to space even though it often ended in nothing..
Dembele turning away from 4 players gave a moment to gasp, even though it achieved little...
Ginola only scored 13 goals in 100 pl appearances - but the moments of childish delight his meandering runs and drops of the shoulders gave - it was fun.
Alderweireld, a CB, playing breathtaking 60 yard pass in behind - when we now have midfielders who can't even see that far...
Robbie Keane and that stupid fucking celebration made me grin like a kid..

On top of the disconnect we now have another manager, after several others, who likes bland functional footballers with little imagination. So with the disconnect with football and the club in general - the 90 minutes of football aren't even littered with fun anymore....

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

Would you say Tottenham fulfills some sort of proxy religious impulse of yours? Or that the club is some sort of archetypal pillar that forms one of the stronger mental modules of yours?

I don't know about that actually, the club has been a part of my life as long as i remember and i love and hate it at the same time, although hate is too strong a word probably but it winds me up sometimes beyond belief and a lot of that stems down to the fact we never seem to miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity regardless of who is at the helm and who is in the playing staff, the club almost feels cursed.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

Even away from the macro level stuff like the direction the club is going or actual success etc...There just isn't anything to excite me over the course of 90 minutes. Other than a flash of creative brilliance from Kane it is stale and boring. Perhaps that's why I enjoyed Ndombele - because he would give a moment ( amongst crap) that wowed. Or Lamela gave an unpredictability or a reason to think he cared as much as you.

The noise of seats at WHL as everyone stood in unison as Lennon sprinted in to space even though it often ended in nothing..
Dembele turning away from 4 players gave a moment to gasp, even though it achieved little...
Ginola only scored 13 goals in 100 pl appearances - but the moments of childish delight his meandering runs and drops of the shoulders gave - it was fun.
Alderweireld, a CB, playing breathtaking 60 yard pass in behind - when we now have midfielders who can't even see that far...
Robbie Keane and that stupid fucking celebration made me grin like a kid..

On top of the disconnect we now have another manager, after several others, who likes bland functional footballers with little imagination. So on top of the disconnect with football and the club in general - the 90 minutes of football aren't even littered with fun anymore....

I think this is it really.

I was willing to sell my soul to the pragmatists on the hope of winning some silverware but the more this has dragged on the more i realise the value i place on enjoying the football weekly even if that does not result in pots come what May, for the last few years it really has been dull as dishwater on the pitch and a bit shambolic off of it, it is almost like a chore following us which i haven't felt before even when we weren't great.

We lack Identity.

 

[spursfan77]

It's really quite simple.

Look, the world, especially the current one, is filled with ugliness & things so much more important than football/Tottenham Hotspur.

Yeah, of course we're emotionally & financially invested. Once this fucking club gets it's claws into you, that's it, life fucking sentence!

But change how you think.
.
Use THFC as an escape from the ugliness of an ever deteriorating world.

Use the match threads as a platform to laugh at the genuinely laughable outbursts some people have, only to be made to look a total thunder**** moments later when the player they've been slagging off does something magic.

Honestly, everything is so much more enjoyable, fun even, if you're just able to take that step back.

I genuinely only come on here for a laugh now.

People have got so serious over the last couple of years, turning on each other regularly on here. And for what? Because we lost a game? Because someone played shit? Because the owners haven't spent what you'd/we'd like? Because we've once again won nothing?

If you're honest with yourself. You expect those things to happen anyway because, lads, it's Tottenham!

Just expect to be everyone's favourite banter club, including your own. ?‍

I agree and that's what I try and do, but lets be fair, its not a great escape is it!

It was during covid lockdown though 100%.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Good post and attitude, just use supporting Spurs as comedy and as an escape from the sad/scary times in Ukraine etc.

Tbh I don't think it has helped that we've hired 3 very defensive mangers in a row, we are not used to this kind of low possession structured defensive football and when you combine that with a stale squad, no back-up to Kane and throw in a pandemic its not a good mix but strip it all back we have a world class manager, some good players we can get behind and in the scheme of things its all fine and nothing to moan about.

It's all stuff we literally have no say in, or control of. So just sit back & hope for the best & expect the worst. That way anything positive is just a welcome bonus.

 

[C1w8]

It's really quite simple.

Look, the world, especially the current one, is filled with ugliness & things so much more important than football/Tottenham Hotspur.

Yeah, of course we're emotionally & financially invested. Once this fucking club gets it's claws into you, that's it, life fucking sentence!

But change how you think.
.
Use THFC as an escape from the ugliness of an ever deteriorating world.

Use the match threads as a platform to laugh at the genuinely laughable outbursts some people have, only to be made to look a total thunder**** moments later when the player they've been slagging off does something magic.

Honestly, everything is so much more enjoyable, fun even, if you're just able to take that step back.

I genuinely only come on here for a laugh now.

People have got so serious over the last couple of years, turning on each other regularly on here. And for what? Because we lost a game? Because someone played shit? Because the owners haven't spent what you'd/we'd like? Because we've once again won nothing?

If you're honest with yourself. You expect those things to happen anyway because, lads, it's Tottenham!

Just expect to be everyone's favourite banter club, including your own. ?‍

This is pretty much how football and how this site has always been for me...most of my mates support other london clubs, its all good banter, albeit much better when you're on the right side of it!

And bar the few who chime in with a bit too much venom i find the overeactions to everything pretty dam entertaining, the witty one liners about players being crap and itk (both the info, and the uproar about the info), sensitivity over ratings, i probably tune in more for that stuff than the serious football chat...

i'd rather be spurs than city/chelsea/united of today, and where i'm guessing newcastle will find themselves in 5 years or so time...and i'm not joking!

 

[spids]

If it wasn't for the financially doped clubs (Man City and Chelsea specifically), we would have won a lot of trophies in the last 10 years.

 

[Darth Vega]

It's easy to feel disconnected when we're a bit shit, but that's always a temporary cycle that I can live with. The difference now is, while I still love Spurs, I'm slowly growing to hate football. Even when we were shit there was always a sense of hope, no matter how slim, that we'd be able to achieve our goals. Whether that was finishing 10th, 6th or 4th, I always felt it was possible, and we proved that it was.

I posted something similar in the Chelsea thread yesterday, but the idea that we're now consistently shat on for not being able to compete with the likes of City, Chelsea and inevitably Newcastle - while the footballing world stands by and watches without a care - really bothers me, but more importantly it feels like that hope is now gone.

It feels like my two choices are to either accept that we're stuck in a perpetual cycle of failure or to accept that rotten, illegally gotten bloody money is what will lead us to become the next Chelsea or City. We either have to suck forever or I must abandon all sense of morality because if we can't beat them, join them... and I hate the sound of both in equal measure.

This doesn't even take into account how expensive everything is now (both tickets to WHL and TV subscriptions); how VAR regularly kills the joy that comes with scoring a goal (the whole point of this sport to begin with); pushes for Super Leagues; a sense of entitlement and negativity (sometimes justified, often not) that seems way more pervasive inside WHL than during any other point in the ENIC area; and all the other bullshit that is tacked on with the modern game.

It's just all very, very tiring.

 

[SSC]

I think this is it really.

I was willing to sell my soul to the pragmatists on the hope of winning some silverware but the more this has dragged on the more i realise the value i place on enjoying the football weekly even if that does not result in pots come what May, for the last few years it really has been dull as dishwater on the pitch and a bit shambolic off of it, it is almost like a chore following us which i haven't felt before even when we weren't great.

We lack Identity.

Lets be honest, teams at the peak of their area have identity. We aspire to be a top 4 club, if you are there comfortably you have identity. Wolves/Southampton aspire to be a top 8-10 club, they have identity.

The apathy is because we are struggling for a rhythm/style and are not winning games consistently. This thread would be largely silent if we were winning games. The game has change loads in the last 20 years, but people were saying exactly the same 20 years ago, and 20 years before that etc.

Ultimately either we need to get better as a club and rise back to the top end of the table, or we all need to recalibrate our expectations. 15-20 years ago we'd have killed for this level of 'inconsistency'.

 

[SandroClegane]

Even away from the macro level stuff like the direction the club is going or actual success etc...There just isn't anything to excite me over the course of 90 minutes. Other than a flash of creative brilliance from Kane it is stale and boring. Perhaps that's why I enjoyed Ndombele - because he would give a moment ( amongst crap) that wowed. Or Lamela gave an unpredictability or a reason to think he cared as much as you.

The noise of seats at WHL as everyone stood in unison as Lennon sprinted in to space even though it often ended in nothing..
Dembele turning away from 4 players gave a moment to gasp, even though it achieved little...
Ginola only scored 13 goals in 100 pl appearances - but the moments of childish delight his meandering runs and drops of the shoulders gave - it was fun.
Alderweireld, a CB, playing breathtaking 60 yard pass in behind - when we now have midfielders who can't even see that far...
Robbie Keane and that stupid fucking celebration made me grin like a kid..

On top of the disconnect we now have another manager, after several others, who likes bland functional footballers with little imagination. So with the disconnect with football and the club in general - the 90 minutes of football aren't even littered with fun anymore....

Lennon would take an absolute BEATING on this site and in the stadium nowadays. Groans every time he didn't put a good cross in or lost the ball.

It's just a different viewing experience now, where people think their opinions hold the same weight as the manager or sporting director, where fans don't understand that the game isn't FIFA/FM, and where you're only as good as the last 15 minutes you played. Human error doesn't matter, you're shit or you're not based on the game.

As someone working in the sport and dealing with supporters on the other side of the Atlantic, the shift in mentality over the last 5 years has been extremely noticeable and negative.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Damn... I'm rewatching The Lane ahead of tonights 5 a side. Dear god I miss that place, and the teams I saw in it.

 

[Tottenham_God]

Damn... I'm rewatching The Lane ahead of tonights 5 a side. Dear god I miss that place, and the teams I saw in it.

What do you miss about it ?