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NickHSpurs

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Last night felt like a watershed moment for me. I've been a season ticket holder since the Martin Jol era in 2006, a supporter all my life (I'm 37) and I've never felt more disconnected with the Club than I did yesterday and still do today. Before the game Levy put out his statement about how we're a family and we're stronger together but last night they made us fans in the stadium feel like they simply don't care about us at all.

I was one of the unlucky ones who chose to spend £60 on watching that shower on the pitch. Like most others, I hadn't been to the stadium since March so I was buzzing to get back. I got to see a couples mates that I hadn't seen since March either so to feel that little slice of normality again was a big moment.

We were told at various points before the day via email and on the actual day in the stadium to stay in our seats after the game for the traditional lap of appreciation from the players to the fans, to thank us for our support as they do every single season.

The full time whistle went. Kane, Bale, Son and Dele clapped every single side of the stadium immediately after the full time whistle before heading to the changing rooms. Hojbjerg and Toby to a lesser extent, meanwhile everyone else went back inside. What would normally happen is the players go and put their tracksuits on, then come back pretty quickly (with all the staff) to clap the fans. That didn't happen.

We were soon politely told over the PA to leave. No explanation, just basically told to go home. That's when the atmosphere started to become pretty toxic, scuffles broke out with stewards, negative chants towards Levy, ENIC and the cost of tickets began and people were angry.

We may not have a permanent manager but we have people on the staff like our caretaker manager Ryan Mason and coach Ledley King who are supposed to be Spurs through and through. Where were they last night? Hiding because a few fans decided to boo what was a poor performace? Spineless. Not only did they not show their own faces but they clearly didn't stand up for us fans and get the players and staff to come out and show us some appreciation.

What about our captain, where was he? Hiding in the changing room with everyone else.

This disconnect has been slowly breaking for the last few years. The last season in the old stadium I had never felt closer to the Club, it was an amazing place to be but there's been a steady decline between how the Club treat the fans and taking us for granted since.

Any good will built up before that time has now completely gone, all bridges completely burned and that's sad.
 

Geyzer Soze

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Neon_Knight_

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I was only watching on TV, but my guess would be that the booing caused someone (Mason?) to decide that a 'lap of appreciation' would garner more negativity than positivity.
 

wirE

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I was only watching on TV, but my guess would be that the booing caused someone (Mason?) to decide that a 'lap of appreciation' would garner more negativity than positivity.

I agree on this. But in a way, it's not the players or the managers fault that it happened. This was not their decision to wait until the crowd got agitated. Bale, Dele, Kane and Son did the right thing and so should the rest of the lot do.
 

NickHSpurs

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I was only watching on TV, but my guess would be that the booing caused someone (Mason?) to decide that a 'lap of appreciation' would garner more negativity than positivity.

Surely the poor performance was even more reason to thank the fans for suffering that shit show. No one would have booed them if they made the effort to come back out. Just another example of the club failing to read the room.
 

Shadydan

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Not since the Mid 90's no.

I was very apathetic during the AVB/Sherwood season but we didn't fall from any heights, yes we sold Bale but it's not as if we were playing in the CL and reached the final recently before that. I think the disconnection comes from the fact that you look at everything about our club it just looks broken from board level to manager to players to fans, I guess the pandemic hasn't helped though but either way I feel it's dark times.
 

SecretLemonadeDrinker

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Trust me, NickHSpurs, it was far, far worse in the 1990's. Today is a walk in the park by comparison.

Sugar and his pitbull, Claude Littner, had absolute contempt for players; for staff; for fans; even for football.

People think our approach to player and manager recruitment is scattergun and shambolic now... it's nothing compared to what it was back then. People think Levy is miserly... he is Father fucking Christmas compared to Sugar. People complain that we can't compete with the biggest clubs now...we couldn't even compete with Sheffield Wednesday or Middlesbrough under Sugar.

We were charged sky high prices to finish 14th instead of sky high prices to finish 6th. Everything about the club was cheap save for tickets and merchandise.

Truly, the atmosphere surrounding the club was poison.

Now only seems worse, perhaps, because we have the internet and twitter and all the many echo chambers within it.
 

Rocksuperstar

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Trust me, NickHSpurs, it was far, far worse in the 1990's. Today is a walk in the park by comparison.

Sugar and his pitbull, Claude Littner, had absolute contempt for players; for staff; for fans; even for football.

People think our approach to player and manager recruitment is scattergun and shambolic now... it's nothing compared to what it was back then. People think Levy is miserly... he is Father fucking Christmas compared to Sugar. People complain that we can't compete with the biggest clubs now...we couldn't even compete with Sheffield Wednesday or Middlesbrough under Sugar.

We were charged sky high prices to finish 14th instead of sky high prices to finish 6th. Everything about the club was cheap save for tickets and merchandise.

Truly, the atmosphere surrounding the club was poison.

Now only seems worse, perhaps, because we have the internet and twitter and all the many echo chambers within it.

And, despite all of this being 100% on the nose about Sugar... we owe him everything.

He put his own money up to save the club, we can't ignore it so even if he was the most infuriating **** to have in charge, without him we'd probably be the White Hart Hotspurs or something by now, playing away at Hereford.
 

SecretLemonadeDrinker

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And, despite all of this being 100% on the nose about Sugar... we owe him everything.

He put his own money up to save the club, we can't ignore it so even if he was the most infuriating **** to have in charge, without him we'd probably be the White Hart Hotspurs or something by now, playing away at Hereford.

Ah, mate, therein lies an altogether wider discussion!

I would actually disagree with your prognosis. There isn't a chance that Spurs would have gone under, IMO. But probably not for this thread!
 

ILS

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For me as some of the others have said not since the mid 90's. It got that low back then, that I remember us going away to Goodison under Gross and wanting us to lose and typical Spurs.. we won and it should never get like that.

If you go back to the new stadium thread, there is a post in there where I predicted that within three years of us being in the new stadium, we will end up struggling to fill it as the footballing side was being neglected. At the moment we are on course to prove me right and I don't want to be proved right.

Something needs to happen but I don't know if that is to sell Kane and start again, but do we trust that the money would be spent wisely? Or is it the case of the last hope that Levy makes the right appointment in the summer and within 12 months a lot of us on this board will be eating humble pie.
 

Shadydan

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Trust me, NickHSpurs, it was far, far worse in the 1990's. Today is a walk in the park by comparison.

Sugar and his pitbull, Claude Littner, had absolute contempt for players; for staff; for fans; even for football.

People think our approach to player and manager recruitment is scattergun and shambolic now... it's nothing compared to what it was back then. People think Levy is miserly... he is Father fucking Christmas compared to Sugar. People complain that we can't compete with the biggest clubs now...we couldn't even compete with Sheffield Wednesday or Middlesbrough under Sugar.

We were charged sky high prices to finish 14th instead of sky high prices to finish 6th. Everything about the club was cheap save for tickets and merchandise.

Truly, the atmosphere surrounding the club was poison.

Now only seems worse, perhaps, because we have the internet and twitter and all the many echo chambers within it.

Oh man that was something else, what a time to be alive.

It was seriously bad back then, the defeats at Notts County and Bolton for example will forever live long in the memory.
 

Spursberg

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I feel very weird now. I used to be off my feet everytime Spurs scored and my wife and kids always told me to relax and shut up when spurs played. But the last year they way Spurs have been playing to the way VAR have changed the emotions of footbal, i am quite quite and almost like i do not care anymore, and it scares me :/

Also it will be around 80£ a month to watch PL next year where i live, so i am just not paying that and will go back to watching the odd game in a pub if we are allowed out! Unless Levy has a stroke and invest like 250 mill on players this summer with a big clear out, maybe i change my mind
 
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Trust me, NickHSpurs, it was far, far worse in the 1990's. Today is a walk in the park by comparison.

Sugar and his pitbull, Claude Littner, had absolute contempt for players; for staff; for fans; even for football.

People think our approach to player and manager recruitment is scattergun and shambolic now... it's nothing compared to what it was back then. People think Levy is miserly... he is Father fucking Christmas compared to Sugar. People complain that we can't compete with the biggest clubs now...we couldn't even compete with Sheffield Wednesday or Middlesbrough under Sugar.

We were charged sky high prices to finish 14th instead of sky high prices to finish 6th. Everything about the club was cheap save for tickets and merchandise.

Truly, the atmosphere surrounding the club was poison.

Now only seems worse, perhaps, because we have the internet and twitter and all the many echo chambers within it.

Here's the epitome of that period - I started supporting spurs when I was around 8 years old. In my school, people chose Newcastle, Blackburn, Man Utd, Liverpool etc. None of them particularly 'local' teams, so people who supported them were called glory supporters and what not.

I though "aha! I'll support the worst team in the PL and no one will call me a 'glory supporter'". Now, we weren't bottom of the league, but I think it must have been the 93/94 season when we went from December to March without winning a single point in the league and finished bottom half.
 

The Scarecrow

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No, but not being able to go to games/watching on TV with empty stands has a lot to do with that as well. VAR too. So there are a lot of factors and not just Spurs being shit and gutless, but I've definitely fallen out of love with most of our players.
 

MotspurHotspur

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Oh man that was something else, what a time to be alive.

It was seriously bad back then, the defeats at Notts County and Bolton for example will forever live long in the memory.
Ahhh shit I forgot about Bolton in the cup. Standing on the burnden terrace freezing my arse off while Bolton tore us to shreds.Flashback!
 
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