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Bronno

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I haven't really been paying much attention to this case, but surely everything hinges on whether the prosecution can convince the jury that Harry intended to deceive HMRC.

They'll throw a lot of mud, most of it irrelevant, simply to foster doubt as to Harry's character in the minds of the jury. They'll use the word 'bung' when they mean 'bonus' or 'commission', they'll kick up a fuss about the name of the account in Monaco, which really doesn't prove anything at all and in doing all this will try to discredit any testimony he might offer. But will it be sufficient to convince a jury as to his malicious intent?

Harry's defence will continue to be along the lines of him pleading ignorance, the prosecution already having preempted this by stating Harry to be a "hard-headed businessman with financial acumen", and in the end it will be down to whether the jury are convinced beyond reasonable doubt as to his intent. Personally, I would question why a man who has legitimately paid tax on millions and millions of pounds of income would knowingly risk his reputation, his liberty, and the millions and millions of pounds he would in all probability earn in the future on what amounts - at least to him - as a drop in the ocean. It makes no sense, and that's my reasonable doubt right there.
 

montylynch

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I suppose it doesnt help that on day two of the trial, the headline read, Pompey owe £1.9m in unpaid taxes.

Nothing to do with HR and MM of course, but if they throw enough mud.....
 

Real_madyidd

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I suppose it doesnt help that on day two of the trial, the headline read, Pompey owe £1.9m in unpaid taxes.

Nothing to do with HR and MM of course, but if they throw enough mud.....


The jury will have been instructed to not read about the case.
 

JerryGarcia

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I haven't really been paying much attention to this case, but surely everything hinges on whether the prosecution can convince the jury that Harry intended to deceive HMRC.

They'll throw a lot of mud, most of it irrelevant, simply to foster doubt as to Harry's character in the minds of the jury. They'll use the word 'bung' when they mean 'bonus' or 'commission', they'll kick up a fuss about the name of the account in Monaco, which really doesn't prove anything at all and in doing all this will try to discredit any testimony he might offer. But will it be sufficient to convince a jury as to his malicious intent?

Harry's defence will continue to be along the lines of him pleading ignorance, the prosecution already having preempted this by stating Harry to be a "hard-headed businessman with financial acumen", and in the end it will be down to whether the jury are convinced beyond reasonable doubt as to his intent. Personally, I would question why a man who has legitimately paid tax on millions and millions of pounds of income would knowingly risk his reputation, his liberty, and the millions and millions of pounds he would in all probability earn in the future on what amounts - at least to him - as a drop in the ocean. It makes no sense, and that's my reasonable doubt right there.


This is the way I see it too unless the prosecution have an ace up their sleave which we don't yet know about. The way I see it, if you fuck with Redknapp, you fuck with Levy. If you fuck with Levy, you lose, every time. :)
 

spurslenny

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This is the way I see it too unless the prosecution have an ace up their sleave which we don't yet know about. The way I see it, if you fuck with Redknapp, you fuck with Levy. If you fuck with Levy, you lose, every time. :)

Fucking with Levy is tantamount to blaspheming God.

Expect a swarm of locust or a flood in Southwark high st if H is found guilty.
 

Bobbins

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This is the way I see it too unless the prosecution have an ace up their sleave which we don't yet know about. The way I see it, if you fuck with Redknapp, you fuck with Levy. If you fuck with Levy, you lose, every time. :)

:lol:
 

brasil_spur

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Harry has a point really, with all the money he is paid, surely there's no point in evading £30k in tax, frankly it seems like he could have asked Mandaric for another £30k after tax at one point in time and M would have handed it over.

Can't see any motive at all for H not paying £30k - which i think is his point, he didn't know that this amount was due in tax (if indeed it even was).

I think the main reason this has got to court is that H and M seem to be saying different things about what the money is for, and HMRC have proof of this, thus they assume that if they tell a story around it all it must seem like one of them is lying and so the jury will convict one of them (or maybe both).

It seems far from a clear cut case for them and i can't see any reasonable jury convicting either with the lack of damming evidence that the prosecution seems not to have right now.
 

tttcowan

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If found guilty can harry get sent down or would it be fines?

I really can't see in a million years Harry being sent down for this... It's crazy how small amount of money it is he's supposed to be doing them out of given the size of his bank balance... If he's found guilty(which seems highly unlikely) it'll be because he's been incompetent not that he's intentionally defrauded HMRC... He'll have to pay the 30k which is a pittance to him...

If he's found not guilty I'd be amazed if he doesn't take legal action against the HMRC... That would be a major embarrassment for the HMRC after what's looked very much like witch-hunt from the start. Idiots really, if it was a few million than yeah but for fucks sake 30k for a well established premiership football manager? Dear me...
 

AllSeeingEye

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Fucking with Levy is tantamount to blaspheming God.

Expect a swarm of locust or a flood in Southwark high st if H is found guilty.

I live near there.... it's not a regional trial.

Why not a burning bush on every level of the Tax Office building?
 

Lilbaz

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Can someone explain how that tape can be used as evidence? He wasn't told about the fact that he was being taped and the journalist didn't have a warrant from a judge to make it. Unless the defence thought it would help the case?
 

bern

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I just hope that there isnt any gooners in the jury it could sway things.
 

Wirral Spurs

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I really can't see in a million years Harry being sent down for this... It's crazy how small amount of money it is he's supposed to be doing them out of given the size of his bank balance... If he's found guilty(which seems highly unlikely) it'll be because he's been incompetent not that he's intentionally defrauded HMRC... He'll have to pay the 30k which is a pittance to him...

If he's found not guilty I'd be amazed if he doesn't take legal action against the HMRC... That would be a major embarrassment for the HMRC after what's looked very much like witch-hunt from the start. Idiots really, if it was a few million than yeah but for fucks sake 30k for a well established premiership football manager? Dear me...

How much did Lester Piggott go down for?
 
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