FIFA Women's World Cup 2019

[WalkerboyUK]

What the hell is going on with officials!?! Ball went out for corner on one side and ref points to opposite corner. Players seemed a bit confused too.

 

[Marty]

Korea wasted some golden opportunities and Norway time wasted the fuck out of the game whenever they had possession, but held on for second in the group, which it turned out they only needed a draw to secure anyway.

Proper shite stuff, any half decent side would've beaten Norway today. Australia, Brazil or Italy await in the last 16 and I wouldn't back Norway to beat any of them without Graham Hansen on the pitch.

 

[DEFchenkOE]

Thought the decision to retake the penalty was an absolute joke. She was not far off her line at all, and didn't even save it. Then all of a sudden the var decision was made instantly to retake before the ball had even finished rolling. I don't even know the rules of football any more.

 

[cwy21]

@DEFchenkOE

So here's what's happening with VAR and PKs. The laws were tweaked so that the GK must have a part of one foot on or over the goal line when the PK is taken. The significant change is that it appears that referees have been told to strictly enforce it now. So in the U20 World Cup and the Women's World Cup using the new laws, you've seen a PK retaken about a half dozen times.

It's just such a shock to the system because it was never enforced and keepers were regularly three steps off the line without it being called. Now does it appear absolutely absurd to retake a PK when the keepers back foot was one inch off the line? Yes. But it's a video review decision and just like offside it's a yes or no. Was the player one inch offside? Yes -> no goal. Was the GK one inch off the line? Yes -> Retake the PK. I think it's stupid but I don't make the laws. On the other hand if we're playing Arsenal next year and Lloris comes a full yard off the line and it's retaken but then the Arsenal keeper comes three inches off the line and it's not retaken we're gonna be kinda pissed off. So in that sense total enforcement makes the most sense with VAR. But like I said, it's such a shock to the system.

As for the yellow card it's mandatory to the goalkeeper. This means at some point in the next season a GK will be sent off for two cautions during a shootout. Or maybe even during a game which will be a total joke and I'll be laughing my ass off when it happens. The mandatory yellow was added a few years to deter keepers from coming off their line, but IMO it just led to referees not enforcing it even further because they thought the retake AND yellow card was too harsh. I suspect the mandatory yellow will be removed again next year.

As for the other 20 players encroaching, the VAR guidelines clearly state that only the players who encroach and then get directly involved with play during the rebound are subject to video review. It's seems stupid but that's what the book says.

It's very possible that UEFA and the VAR leagues in Europe will quietly ignore cases like this one where it's only an inch or two. It wouldn't be the first time that UEFA's referee department pretty much told FIFA to f*** off. One can hope.

 

[Danners9]

@DEFchenkOE


As for the yellow card it's mandatory to the goalkeeper. This means at some point in the next season a GK will be sent off for two cautions during a shootout. Or maybe even during a game which will be a total joke and I'll be laughing my ass off when it happens. The mandatory yellow was added a few years to deter keepers from coming off their line, but IMO it just led to referees not enforcing it even further because they thought the retake AND yellow card was too harsh. I suspect the mandatory yellow will be removed again next year.

Like this: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...after-keeper-sent-off-during-penalty-shootout

Referee Zbynek Proske from the Czech Republic issued Corcoran with a yellow card after he was penalised for coming off his line while saving Daishawn Redan’s penalty. The save would have levelled the scores at 4-4 and sent the shoot-out into sudden death.

The yellow card was Corcoran’s second, and the 16-year-old, who plays for Cherry Orchard FC in Dublin, was duly sent off. Team-mate Oisin McEntee put his shirt and gloves on and went in goal to face the re-take, which Chelsea’s Redan scored to send the Dutch through.

 

[wirE]

France-Nigeria: Unbelievable that the teams and players haven't read up on the new rules that took affect on the 1st of June. Imo the referee gave the right decision

 

[LeSoupeKitchen]

Was always the fear that VAR would lead to overzealous application of the rules. Really hoping the number of these ridiculous situations will be outnumbered by good calls.

 

[wirE]

Blatant bias in favour of the home nation. Perhaps the women's game isn't far off men's after all.

Absolutely ricidulous to order a retake. Every single keeper has come off their line for pens.

New rules as of 1st of June. It's every team and players own fault if they haven't read up on the new rules.

 

[DEFchenkOE]

@DEFchenkOE

So here's what's happening with VAR and PKs. The laws were tweaked so that the GK must have a part of one foot on or over the goal line when the PK is taken. The significant change is that it appears that referees have been told to strictly enforce it now. So in the U20 World Cup and the Women's World Cup using the new laws, you've seen a PK retaken about a half dozen times.

It's just such a shock to the system because it was never enforced and keepers were regularly three steps off the line without it being called. Now does it appear absolutely absurd to retake a PK when the keepers back foot was one inch off the line? Yes. But it's a video review decision and just like offside it's a yes or no. Was the player one inch offside? Yes -> no goal. Was the GK one inch off the line? Yes -> Retake the PK. I think it's stupid but I don't make the laws. On the other hand if we're playing Arsenal next year and Lloris comes a full yard off the line and it's retaken but then the Arsenal keeper comes three inches off the line and it's not retaken we're gonna be kinda pissed off. So in that sense total enforcement makes the most sense with VAR. But like I said, it's such a shock to the system.

As for the yellow card it's mandatory to the goalkeeper. This means at some point in the next season a GK will be sent off for two cautions during a shootout. Or maybe even during a game which will be a total joke and I'll be laughing my ass off when it happens. The mandatory yellow was added a few years to deter keepers from coming off their line, but IMO it just led to referees not enforcing it even further because they thought the retake AND yellow card was too harsh. I suspect the mandatory yellow will be removed again next year.

As for the other 20 players encroaching, the VAR guidelines clearly state that only the players who encroach and then get directly involved with play during the rebound are subject to video review. It's seems stupid but that's what the book says.

It's very possible that UEFA and the VAR leagues in Europe will quietly ignore cases like this one where it's only an inch or two. It wouldn't be the first time that UEFA's referee department pretty much told FIFA to f*** off. One can hope.

Thanks for enlightening me. Never seen a pen retaken for such a small margin off the line. But rules are rules I guess. So they can't dive at all before the kick is taken? Or they can start diving but from behind the goal?

 

[WalkerboyUK]

@DEFchenkOE

So here's what's happening with VAR and PKs. The laws were tweaked so that the GK must have a part of one foot on or over the goal line when the PK is taken. The significant change is that it appears that referees have been told to strictly enforce it now. So in the U20 World Cup and the Women's World Cup using the new laws, you've seen a PK retaken about a half dozen times.

It's just such a shock to the system because it was never enforced and keepers were regularly three steps off the line without it being called. Now does it appear absolutely absurd to retake a PK when the keepers back foot was one inch off the line? Yes. But it's a video review decision and just like offside it's a yes or no. Was the player one inch offside? Yes -> no goal. Was the GK one inch off the line? Yes -> Retake the PK. I think it's stupid but I don't make the laws. On the other hand if we're playing Arsenal next year and Lloris comes a full yard off the line and it's retaken but then the Arsenal keeper comes three inches off the line and it's not retaken we're gonna be kinda pissed off. So in that sense total enforcement makes the most sense with VAR. But like I said, it's such a shock to the system.

As for the yellow card it's mandatory to the goalkeeper. This means at some point in the next season a GK will be sent off for two cautions during a shootout. Or maybe even during a game which will be a total joke and I'll be laughing my ass off when it happens. The mandatory yellow was added a few years to deter keepers from coming off their line, but IMO it just led to referees not enforcing it even further because they thought the retake AND yellow card was too harsh. I suspect the mandatory yellow will be removed again next year.

As for the other 20 players encroaching, the VAR guidelines clearly state that only the players who encroach and then get directly involved with play during the rebound are subject to video review. It's seems stupid but that's what the book says.

It's very possible that UEFA and the VAR leagues in Europe will quietly ignore cases like this one where it's only an inch or two. It wouldn't be the first time that UEFA's referee department pretty much told FIFA to f*** off. One can hope.

I fully expect this rule to be tweaked again. If the penalty is put wide/over, then the fact a goalkeeper is half an inch of the line should be irrelevant. Letting the player take the spot kick again when THEY fluffed their lines is an absurd rule. The goalkeeper has done nothing more than psych out the taker.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Thanks for enlightening me. Never seen a pen retaken for such a small margin off the line. But rules are rules I guess. So they can't dive at all before the kick is taken? Or they can start diving but from behind the goal?

One foot has to be on the line when the ball is struck and you're not allowed to start from behind the line either.
Just like defenders are going to have to relearn their game to avoid shit handball decisios, goalkeepers are going to have to relearn penalties.

Go and look at the first Swiss penalty from the England game. Pickford has one foot in front, one behind - ref did nothing.
Third penalty and both feet are in front.
Presumably the ref will only enforce the rule if the penalty is missed.
Funnily enough the Swiss keeper does keep one foot on the line for each - and gets nowhere near any of them.

 

[cwy21]

One foot has to be on the line when the ball is struck and you're not allowed to start from behind the line either.
Just like defenders are going to have to relearn their game to avoid shit handball decisios, goalkeepers are going to have to relearn penalties.

Go and look at the first Swiss penalty from the England game. Pickford has one foot in front, one behind - ref did nothing.
Third penalty and both feet are in front.
Presumably the ref will only enforce the rule if the penalty is missed.
Funnily enough the Swiss keeper does keep one foot on the line for each - and gets nowhere near any of them.

Important note - the Nations League finals were using the old laws and standards and not what we're seeing in the WWC.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Important note - the Nations League finals were using the old laws and standards and not what we're seeing in the WWC.

But the rules came into effect on 1st June...

 

[cwy21]

But the rules came into effect on 1st June...

Only for competitions that started after June 1st. The Nations League was still apart of the 2018/19 calendar. For example, MLS will be using the old laws for the remainder of this season that runs through November because the competition started in March.

 

[Gassin's finest]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...d-cup-goals-and-good-old-var?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

[Gassin's finest]

Im genuinely hating VAR

Its the application of it - its just becoming fuckin anal about every single thing

So France missed the penalty because the keeper werent on her line... fine... but then they score the retake but the KEEPER WAS STILL OFF HER LINE...

WHAT

THE

FUCK

It's women's football... of course they're going to pick up on every little thing and be bitchy about stuff...

 

[Johnny J]

New rules as of 1st of June. It's every team and players own fault if they haven't read up on the new rules.

I know they're new rules. The issue is when they aren't applied fairly.

Two France players were encroaching on the first pen. Yet somehow that's OK.

 

[BuryMeInEngland]

I know they're new rules. The issue is when they aren't applied fairly.

Two France players were encroaching on the first pen. Yet somehow that's OK.

Exactly. Shouldn't that have cancelled out the GK being an inch off the line?

 

[Marty]

I fully expect this rule to be tweaked again. If the penalty is put wide/over, then the fact a goalkeeper is half an inch of the line should be irrelevant. Letting the player take the spot kick again when THEY fluffed their lines is an absurd rule. The goalkeeper has done nothing more than psych out the taker.

That is an important distinction and an amendment that has to be made. If the taker shoots wide or over what the keeper does is completely irrelevant.

 

[nailsy]

@DEFchenkOE

So here's what's happening with VAR and PKs. The laws were tweaked so that the GK must have a part of one foot on or over the goal line when the PK is taken. The significant change is that it appears that referees have been told to strictly enforce it now. So in the U20 World Cup and the Women's World Cup using the new laws, you've seen a PK retaken about a half dozen times.

It's just such a shock to the system because it was never enforced and keepers were regularly three steps off the line without it being called. Now does it appear absolutely absurd to retake a PK when the keepers back foot was one inch off the line? Yes. But it's a video review decision and just like offside it's a yes or no. Was the player one inch offside? Yes -> no goal. Was the GK one inch off the line? Yes -> Retake the PK. I think it's stupid but I don't make the laws. On the other hand if we're playing Arsenal next year and Lloris comes a full yard off the line and it's retaken but then the Arsenal keeper comes three inches off the line and it's not retaken we're gonna be kinda pissed off. So in that sense total enforcement makes the most sense with VAR. But like I said, it's such a shock to the system.

As for the yellow card it's mandatory to the goalkeeper. This means at some point in the next season a GK will be sent off for two cautions during a shootout. Or maybe even during a game which will be a total joke and I'll be laughing my ass off when it happens. The mandatory yellow was added a few years to deter keepers from coming off their line, but IMO it just led to referees not enforcing it even further because they thought the retake AND yellow card was too harsh. I suspect the mandatory yellow will be removed again next year.

As for the other 20 players encroaching, the VAR guidelines clearly state that only the players who encroach and then get directly involved with play during the rebound are subject to video review. It's seems stupid but that's what the book says.

It's very possible that UEFA and the VAR leagues in Europe will quietly ignore cases like this one where it's only an inch or two. It wouldn't be the first time that UEFA's referee department pretty much told FIFA to f*** off. One can hope.

Great post