Civil war amongst Spurs supporters......should they change their target?

[jamesc0le]

i blame Jake

 

[OmarsComing]

Anybody who visits White Hart Lane or any Spurs website forum this season knows that the in fighting amongst Spurs fans is worse than we can ever remember. The Redknapp sacking and AVB appointment has Spurs fans at each others throats like never before, with insults flowing back and forth as each argues for their position on the matter.However, regardless of their point of view, should they not have a common target?

Harry was sacked.......who made that decision?
Harry will not be re-instated.......not under this Chairman!
AVB was appointed......who made that decision?
AVB was not backed in the transfer market.......who didnt secure the signings?

Seems to me that regardless of your position on our current state of affairs one man should be the target of peoples anger......Mr.D.Levy.

 

[DiscoD1882]

I said it when Jol was sacked.
I said it when Ramos was sacked
I said it when Redknapp was sacked.
And I will probably say it when AVB gets sacked.

All people want today is instant success there is no care of how we get there. We just want instant success. So if we dont get that we start looking for scapegoats. players, Managers the board. its always the same.

we went through two decades of total mediocrity. we have come such a long way in the last few years. We shoould have kept Jol. We should have kept Redkanpp. But because of instant success, we didnt. Now we have to start again. Why people cannot see the futility of constantly changing things in a club doesnt work is beyond me.

get behind the players. get behind the manager. get behind the board.

We are tottenham. All of us.

 

[Nocando]

So is your mum

why dont you get a room so you can fuck each other a bit more ;-)

 

[Mackay6]

I said it when Jol was sacked.
I said it when Ramos was sacked
I said it when Redknapp was sacked.
And I will probably say it when AVB gets sacked.

All people want today is instant success there is no care of how we get there. We just want instant success. So if we dont get that we start looking for scapegoats. players, Managers the board. its always the same.

we went through two decades of total mediocrity. we have come such a long way in the last few years. We shoould have kept Jol. We should have kept Redkanpp. But because of instant success, we didnt. Now we have to start again. Why people cannot see the futility of constantly changing things in a club doesnt work is beyond me.

get behind the players. get behind the manager. get behind the board.

We are tottenham. All of us.

Hi, so when were these two decades of total mediocrity?

In the 80s we won three trophies, in the 90s we won two, in the 00s we won one, this decade we've won nowt.

So when do the two decades start and end?

 

[scottlag10]

To be brutally honest I am firmly of the belief that any sane and half normal fan should completely and wholly turn their venomous attention on fickle idiotic fans who always have a burning desire to target and blame somebody at the club every time we lose a fucking football match!!!!

Montasura (well known member!!!) i am not a fickle idiotic fan. I have been going to Spurs Home and away since i was 6 years old (1967) and feel that i am therefore entitled to my opinion. I was quite simply trying to point out that i am sick and tired of all the infighting and maybe if everybody took the heat off each other, The Manager, the players etc. we could focus on giving our full vocal backing. I love Spurs with all my heart and want them to have our full support.

I have seen great players, crap players....great Managers, crap Managers......great matches and some real rubbish. I do not have a burning desire to target blame at somebody after we lose a football match. Perhaps i was misguided in targeting Levy, i was just trying to stop the constant arguements with a deflection target. (Although i do think all points of view i raised were valid).

Lets all now target our attention at the real enemy.......Arsenal.

PS I cried at my first Home game because i was frightened i was going to fall out of the seats above the old shelf, too high and too steep. I cried when we were relegated when a banner was brought onto the pitch saying 'we will return'. I unofficially broke the world high jump record when Ricky Villa scored the 81 final winner. Best Spurs football ever was first 45 mins at home game with Feyenoord in early 80's. Best atmoshpere was Spurs v Arsenal semi-final at Old Trafford in 2001.Whats your memories Montasura?

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Ohhhhh really? You French fuck?

LEAVE MATTY ALONE!

Thats below the fucking belt you ****!!

I got your back.



Oh, and as for this thread? Dear lord (Levy).

 

[BringBack_leGin]

To be brutally honest I am firmly of the belief that any sane and half normal fan should completely and wholly turn their venomous attention on fickle idiotic fans who always have a burning desire to target and blame somebody at the club every time we lose a fucking football match!!!!

Montasura (well known member!!!) i am not a fickle idiotic fan. I have been going to Spurs Home and away since i was 6 years old (1967) and feel that i am therefore entitled to my opinion. I was quite simply trying to point out that i am sick and tired of all the infighting and maybe if everybody took the heat off each other, The Manager, the players etc. we could focus on giving our full vocal backing. I love Spurs with all my heart and want them to have our full support.

I have seen great players, crap players....great Managers, crap Managers......great matches and some real rubbish. I do not have a burning desire to target blame at somebody after we lose a football match. Perhaps i was misguided in targeting Levy, i was just trying to stop the constant arguements with a deflection target. (Although i do think all points of view i raised were valid).

Lets all now target our attention at the real enemy.......Arsenal.

PS I cried at my first Home game because i was frightened i was going to fall out of the seats above the old shelf, too high and too steep. I cried when we were relegated when a banner was brought onto the pitch saying 'we will return'. I unofficially broke the world high jump record when Ricky Villa scored the 81 final winner. Best Spurs football ever was first 45 mins at home game with Feyenoord in early 80's. Best atmoshpere was Spurs v Arsenal semi-final at Old Trafford in 2001.Whats your memories Montasura?

I'm not sure how being a lifelong fan and a dedicated follower entitles you to the opinion that our chairman (the only chairman in your lifetime to oversee Spurs qualifying for Europes premier competition) deserves to be a hate target.

 

[DiscoD1882]

Hi, so when were these two decades of total mediocrity?

In the 80s we won three trophies, in the 90s we won two, in the 00s we won one, this decade we've won nowt.

So when do the two decades start and end?

If you thought the 90's and 00's up until Jol took over were anything but mediocre then you have rosier spectacles on than I have ever had. I'm positive about spurs. But I'm also realistic. They were turgid times.

 

[Mackay6]

If you thought the 90's and 00's up until Jol took over were anything but mediocre then you have rosier spectacles on than I have ever had. I'm positive about spurs. But I'm also realistic. They were turgid times.

So these two decades were 1985-2004 when Jol took over?

We won two trophies in that time, reached two more finals and finished 3rd three times in that period, IIRC, compared to the 8 years since when we've won one trophy, reached one more final (never winning or reaching an FA Cup Final, the 'ENIC trophy' being the least ranked Lge Cup) and never finished as high as third, but finished 4th twice.

Seems very similar to me. I wouldn't like to call what was better tbh.

I can tell you I preferred the 85-87 teams more than anything produced under ENIC, we certainly got closer to the title.

Also we were arguably the biggest club in London then, certainly way ahead of Chelsea, and more glamorous than Arsenal. How different to the Jol times and since, when we've been very much poor relations to Arsenal and Chesea, and only the 3rd club in London,

Oh and in Hoddle Waddle Gazza Lineker Ardilles Klinsmann and Ginola players substantially superior to any 7 you could name from 04-12

If you think that the football produced by the divine Hodd, Gazza and Ginola was 'turgid' then I really don't know what to say to that.

Incidentally, I even left out Allen who scored 49 goals in one season which completely outranks any individual goal tally 04-12, what would be the highest then - 29?

So in summary, I can't see at all how those two decades in the 80s and 90s were clearly inferior to the period 2004-2012.

 

[mill]

why dont you get a room so you can fuck each other a bit more ;-)

What him and your mum?

 

[Nocando]

What him and your mum?

If he wants!

 

[whatsappnin]

look at me!

 

[Graysonti]

I'm not sure how being a lifelong fan and a dedicated follower entitles you to the opinion that our chairman (the only chairman in your lifetime to oversee Spurs qualifying for Europes premier competition) deserves to be a hate target.

Do me a favour - that was luck.

Jol was after Santini and Arry after Ramos - and we've only spent money when bottomish of league. Some would say in spite of Levy

 

[Graysonti]

Do me a favour - that was luck.

Jol was after Santini and Arry after Ramos - and we've only spent money when bottomish of league. Jeez, do me a favour

So these two decades were 1985-2004 when Jol took over?

We won two trophies in that time, reached two more finals and finished 3rd three times in that period, IIRC, compared to the 8 years since when we've won one trophy, reached one more final (never winning or reaching an FA Cup Final, the 'ENIC trophy' being the least ranked Lge Cup) and never finished as high as third, but finished 4th twice.

Seems very similar to me. I wouldn't like to call what was better tbh.

I can tell you I preferred the 85-87 teams more than anything produced under ENIC, we certainly got closer to the title.

Also we were arguably the biggest club in London then, certainly way ahead of Chelsea, and more glamorous than Arsenal. How different to the Jol times and since, when we've been very much poor relations to Arsenal and Chesea, and only the 3rd club in London,

Oh and in Hoddle Waddle Gazza Lineker Ardilles Klinsmann and Ginola players substantially superior to any 7 you could name from 04-12

If you think that the football produced by the divine Hodd, Gazza and Ginola was 'turgid' then I really don't know what to say to that.

Incidentally, I even left out Allen who scored 49 goals in one season which completely outranks any individual goal tally 04-12, what would be the highest then - 29?

So in summary, I can't see at all how those two decades in the 80s and 90s were clearly inferior to the period 2004-2012.

Yep, 80s pissed this current period.

 

[scottlag10]

Omarscoming.....Jeese you've got big eyes and an even bigger gob!

 

[parklane1]

If you thought the 90's and 00's up until Jol took over were anything but mediocre then you have rosier spectacles on than I have ever had. I'm positive about spurs. But I'm also realistic. They were turgid times.

Indeed they were, and anyone who says they were not is having a laugh.

 

[dcarney75]

I wouldn't say two decades, but 1992-2004 were bad. Ginola, the emergence of King and the league cup win in 99 pretty much covers the positives.

 

[SteveH]

Oh it should be such jolly fun here on Sunday and Monday

 

[stevenqoz]

I think we have an even deeper problem than the coach wars. We have become a team that in recent years does not kow how to say goodbye to its heroes. We are constantly discounting the things that make us special.....Keane Berbatov Modric Carrick all become non-people when they leave us.....how many of these players will be welcomed back in the way Tevez was at West Ham recently? Add that to the toxic player abuse that takes place in such forums as this and the seemingly growing tendency of non-support at WHL and it is worrying. I am a 600 gamer that now lives in oz.....the club and its fortunes still play a massive role in my life and I will again be up through the night this weekend watching the live Foxtel coverage but things aren't hunky dory are they?