Change for Tottenham

[Dougal]

They want to play a part in who runs the club and is employed in different areas without being part of the board?

Like I say, I just don't think it's a realistic goal.

Absolutely. ENIC are completely focused on their own investment vision and football is a distraction. There’s no way they’d offer up any real power to anyone who couldn’t guarantee them money.

 

[g_harry]

They want to play a part in who runs the club and is employed in different areas without being part of the board?

Like I say, I just don't think it's a realistic goal

Could be wrong but I don't believe they want to run the club, I think it more to create pressure on board to be more transparent with the fans as there is a total disconnect between the fans vision and what actually happening . In fact there absolutely no link between us.

I suppose it also trying to pressure the board to focus on the football side of things and keep property arm separate. All footballing decisions to be made by football people.

Surely that a good thing.

 

[g_harry]

Absolutely. ENIC are completely focused on their own investment vision and football is a distraction. There’s no way they’d offer up any real power to anyone who couldn’t guarantee them money.

100% but surely the club can't be allowed to plod as it has been for the last 5years.

 

[g_harry]

They want to play a part in who runs the club and is employed in different areas without being part of the board?

Like I say, I just don't think it's a realistic goal.

Are you happy how the club is currently being run and progressing?

 

[dontcallme]

Are you happy how the club is currently being run and progressing?

What a strange question.

I'm not happy. Doesn't mean I am going to agree to every nonsensical solution.

If the group was simply asking for ENIC or Levy to resign it'd have my support.

I've explained in previous posts why this particular group is unrealistic and I don't believe they're the people to affect any changes, let alone the correct ones.

 

[dontcallme]

Just read a few of their blog posts. It's a bit embarrassing.

They've actually criticised the club for not buying Rivaldo. This was at the time Bolton turned him down because it was clear he was done and was looking for a last pay day.

 

[Bing]

Could be wrong but I don't believe they want to run the club, I think it more to create pressure on board to be more transparent with the fans as there is a total disconnect between the fans vision and what actually happening . In fact there absolutely no link between us.

I suppose it also trying to pressure the board to focus on the football side of things and keep property arm separate. All footballing decisions to be made by football people.

Surely that a good thing.

What's the fans vision? I would guess world class stadium, elite manager, buying top quality players and winning things?

We've got the stadium...in the last few years we have apponted two of the most widely respected managers in the game (at huge expense), we have employed a new Dof and spend half a billion buying players like Romero, Bentancur, Bissouma, Richarlison, Kulu, Porro.....we have not won anything but I fail to see how transparency is going to help with that.

The two uncomfortable thruths are that we have done a lot of the right things but have won nothing as it is so competivie and difficult to win things now and two modern football is such that football clubs are no longer fuzzy feel good family run affairs...they are corporate machines and if we want to win anything it absolutely has to be that way to fund wages, transfer fees, manager contracts etc.

 

[dontcallme]

What's the fans vision? I would guess world class stadium, elite manager, buying top quality players and winning things?

We've got the stadium...in the last few years we have apponted two of the most widely respected managers in the game (at huge expense), we have employed a new Dof and spend half a billion buying players like Romero, Bentancur, Bissouma, Richarlison, Kulu, Porro.....we have not won anything but I fail to see how transparency is going to help with that.

The two uncomfortable thruths are that we have done a lot of the right things but have won nothing as it is so competivie and difficult to win things now and two modern football is such that football clubs are no longer fuzzy feel good family run affairs...they are corporate machines and if we want to win anything it absolutely has to be that way to fund wages, transfer fees, manager contracts etc.

If you have the time, or inclination, read their blog posts.

They've gone through individual signings, missed signings etc and seem to be rewriting history on many of them.

It's pretty funny stuff and the fact they want to be having a say on what the board does is laughable.

 

[thecook]

Are these the small group of fans that have been protesting with their £NIC Out banner?

 

[dontcallme]

Are these the small group of fans that have been protesting with their £NIC Out banner?

I checked the website. Couldn't find any sign about who any of the people running it are.

 

[Dougal]

100% but surely the club can't be allowed to plod as it has been for the last 5years.

I hope not.

 

[g_harry]

What a strange question.

I'm not happy. Doesn't mean I am going to agree to every nonsensical solution.

If the group was simply asking for ENIC or Levy to resign it'd have my support.

I've explained in previous posts why this particular group is unrealistic and I don't believe they're the people to affect any changes, let alone the correct ones.

Apologies I don't believe it was a strange question, was just interested in how you see the current situation at the club.

I don't see anything where it notes their objective is to control what happens at the club, maybe you can direct me to something I have missed.

I agree it would be better if it was clear who are organising this, however I like the fact that this it is helping to raise concerns regarding the running of the club, question the objectives of current owners had how it has been under Levy/ENIC stewardship.

I not sure any other fans from the top 6 teams would sit back and accept this mediocrey from their football clubs for such a long period.

Be interested in your view how us fans could affect changes?

 

[Russ1201]

'I'm not racist, but..........'

I'm John Terry?.....

 

[dontcallme]

Apologies I don't believe it was a strange question, was just interested in how you see the current situation at the club.

I don't see anything where it notes their objective is to control what happens at the club, maybe you can direct me to something I have missed.

I agree it would be better if it was clear who are organising this, however I like the fact that this it is helping to raise concerns regarding the running of the club, question the objectives of current owners had how it has been under Levy/ENIC stewardship.

I not sure any other fans from the top 6 teams would sit back and accept this mediocrey from their football clubs for such a long period.

Be interested in your view how us fans could affect changes?

I found it a strange question as just because I've found this group completely amateur and unrealistic, it has no reflection on if I am happy with the board.

I didn't say anything about them wanting to control the board, so I cannot point you in that direction.

Read their blog posts, they're idiots. They might have good intentions but I've explained in previous posts why their objectives are unrealistic and what they're looking to do won't happen.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Again what a load of shit people looking for social media clout and fame rather than wanting actual sensible change. They are just basing themselves off the trust and changing a few things, it’s silly we don’t need these groups what we need is someone to just unite the whole football club instead of this split faction boycott games don’t buy stuff etc it’s unrealistic.

for example last game I sat next to a man from Russia….he had saved for years and waited for years to get a ticket you expect him to bring his kids over and not go in the official club shop? Or not spend a penny it won’t hurt the club even if 15,000 suddenly don’t turn up as there is another 30/40,000 desperate to be there.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

The only way you can affect change is by the match going supporters instigating an uprising

Making it as uncomfortable as possible for the board & chairman on matchdays and at the training ground

Everything else is pretty meaningless hot air

Unfortunately we’ve never had a particularly militant fanbase and in this ‘new age’ of football it’s less militant then ever before

Levy could literally shoot one of our stars on the centre circle and get away with it, as long as the club is run on the extremely sound footings it currently is

 

[Bing]

The only way you can affect change is by the match going supporters instigating an uprising

Making it as uncomfortable as possible for the board & chairman on matchdays and at the training ground

Everything else is pretty meaningless hot air

Unfortunately we’ve never had a particularly militant fanbase and in this ‘new age’ of football it’s less militant then ever before

Levy could literally shoot one of our stars on the centre circle and get away with it, as long as the club is run on the extremely sound footings it currently is

Christ lad, it's not Russia circa 1917.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Christ lad, it's not Russia circa 1917.

You’re obviously happy with the way our Chairman is running our football club then…

 

[Sloop]

Christ lad, it's not Russia circa 1917.

Never red!

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

CHANGE FOR TOTTENHAM MANIFESTO

Change for Tottenham was set up with the key objective of trying to influence change at Tottenham Hotspur at board level with a focus on creating footballing success.

There is no doubt the team has regressed since the Pochettino era. This has been further compounded by poor managerial appointments, poor transfers and poor squad management. We feel there is a disparity between the commercial and football success of the club and we challenge the board to change its philosophy to ensure the fans can be proud of their football club on the pitch.

Key Objectives:

The Board

We are neither an ENIC in or ENIC out group but instead, one that encourages a change of vision, strategy and direction for the club that has the club’s footballing success at the forefront of its objectives.

We believe that this could be achieved in several ways, including:

• Daniel Levy to step aside from all footballing matters and focus on the commercial growth
• An appointment of new board members to be focused on footballing success
• Investment into the club from groups with the sole intention of developing footballing success
• A full sale of the football club

NB: Since this manifesto was initially devised, Scott Munn was appointed Chief Football Director. CFT welcome this appointment in the hope that it is a much-needed change in the football operation structure. We look forward to seeing how his appointment will improve the football operations at the club.

Tottenham Hotspur Identity

We urge the board to create a solid platform for the football club to return to its historic core identity. This would include:

• Having a consistent infrastructure that promotes attacking football which even the board agree is a core identity of the club.
• The same identity to flow down to the youth football set up
• The identity to be maintained regardless of who the manager is
• To assist in creating an unrivalled stadium atmosphere - especially in the south stand. This includes working with fan groups for seat allocation, providing flags and banners and to bring back the WHL drummer!
• To enhance Tottenham Hotspur branding around the stadium with the inclusion of statues and The Bill Nicholson gates.

Property Business

We seek to have the property arm (including all its subsidiaries) to be demerged from the main football clubs’ group of companies except for those that have a direct positive impact to the club - which includes the hotel, stadium and training ground.

We want any property investments or proposed developments made by club revenue to cease and for these to be self-funded by the owners that are non-football club related. Also, we seek greater transparency on disposals of property that have been acquired by the club through its overseas companies along with greater transparency on any revenue being directed away from core footballing activities.

If the fans have contributed to generating revenue for these acquisitions, we feel the fans have the right to be informed of what their money is paying for.

United Fan Base

Trying to successfully influence any change at senior board level at Tottenham will be impossible without the majority of fans being joined together for a common objective.

We understand that our core principles may not align with every Tottenham Hotspur fan and we appreciate that fans will have their own valid opinion. We call for all fans to be respectful of these opinions. There is no doubt that there is a significant portion of the fan base worldwide that fully support ENIC and do not think any change is necessary. Our objectives are not to try and convince this segment of fans to change their mind but instead work together for the good of the club. We will always be prepared to answer any questions anyone may have.

Our objective would be to unite the staunch “ENIC out” groups and individuals and the fans that appreciate the good ENIC have done and also recognise the changes required for Tottenham to elevate themselves into the next phase of footballing development.

There are many groups and individuals that spend far too much energy disagreeing with each other and being disrespectful as opposed to being supportive of each other on the “common ground” subjects that may influence the change we all want.

CFT seek to offer a platform to unite our fan base and those that share the same core principles of change without the requirement of having to interact on a personal level. We recognise that division is creating a major hurdle for any potential change and we want to bring together a united fan base.

Action Points

• Continue to canvass opinion from fans on all current issues regarding Tottenham
• To write to the board where necessary
• To work with other fan groups/individuals and Social Media outlets to bring change.
• To offer support to any fan groups seeking to protest and will encourage fans to not be disrespectful to those that are seeking change in their own methods. We would also request that protest groups do not engage in dialogue on social media with those who seek to be disrespectful to you.

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