Career Killers?

[stevenqoz]

For many years Spurs have been a buying club. They buy in ready made talent. Time is a factor and somewhere along the line the controllers at Spurs that they couldn't wait for home talent to develop. This means that most of the time players don't have time to be nurtured by the club/crowd as more local products would. At Spurs they can quickly becaome isolated. Postiga, Rebrov, Pav are examples of expensive outsiders who failed to perform quickly enough and became isolated. Spurs have also taken on the practice of 'accumulation'. This is where we buy potential young players from outside but then farm them out to the lower divisions. Without a reserve team to speak of this can easily be seen by some as a negative thing for player careers. Bostock and Naughton would have had serious thoughts about their moves to Spurs as young players while the likes of Bale, Bentley and Hutton are more expensive examples of players who would probably be best away from Tottenham for the sake of their careers.

 

[Bonjour]

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If these players were to go elsewhere and suddenly become top four players then I could accept we had a problem but they don't, they disappear off to lower Prem or lower league football and never trouble the highest level again.

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Hence 'career killers'.

 

[michaelden]

Yes we are. Sad but true... just ask Gio, Taarabt, Kaboul, Dervitte, Rebrov, Pav, Hutton,... cant think of anymore... am welling up with wasted talent

 

[sunnydelight786]

Yes we are. Sad but true... just ask Gio, Taarabt, Kaboul, Dervitte, Rebrov, Pav, Hutton,... cant think of anymore... am welling up with wasted talent

Gunter, Routledge, Reid....

 

[michaelden]

Halfredsson, El Ham, Silva or Sousa...

 

[michaelden]

Zeigler

 

[mil1lion]

Keane the 2nd Coming.

Come on, who was thinking it?

Only kidding Keane, i love you really.

 

[Dr Know]

Keane the 2nd Coming.

Come on, who was thinking it?

Only kidding Keane, i love you really.

L'Pool beat us to it

 

[mattstev2000]

Atouba, Tremazzani (sp?) and that bloke who looked like Tracy Chapman

 

[StartingPrice]

Keane the 2nd Coming.

Come on, who was thinking it?

Only kidding Keane, i love you really.

I thought the conventional wisdom was that it was gentlemanly to always come 2nd:shrug:

 

[DEFchenkOE]

El Hamdoui is actually a really good player I think but we just had way too many strikers when he was here, the thing is, all too often we seem to have bought players when they wasn't actually needed. So career progression seemed to be impossible with us. Look at last year for example, we already had Corluka and Hutton and then Chimbonda was bought. Then sold and we signed Naughton, who has gone from playing first team football in the championship to not even playing reserve football as we don't have a team. Same for Bostock. Instead he ends up on loan at league 1.

 

[Beni]

Sorry, can't agree with this notion that we are 'Career Killers'. If they're good enough, then they will be picked and played. If it happens that it doesn't work out for them at Spurs, they still can be a top player elsewhere, which none of the players we have let go have done so.
If players cannot motivate themselves to improve and make their careers successful after having a bad blip at 1 club, then you have to question their mindset and motivations in the 1st place.

Only 2 players have gone on to better themselves from us in the past decade, off the top of my head and that has been Carrick and Berbatov.

 

[WhiteHart4Ever]

Ok, here's some Careers I'm pretty sure we haven't killed:

Paul Robinson went from uncapped to England number 1 under us.

Ekotto is an international fullback and a otp premiership defender now, previously he was a promising but faulty young left back.

Dawson was an injury prone lower league centre back before we signed him.

Bassong had just been relegated in an awful defence when we signed him.

Lennon was yet another young Leeds player and no more, now he's Englands first choice right winger.

Tom Huddlestone was just a promising youngster, we've slowly integrated him into being our first choice and and England cap too.

Jermain Defoe was a youngster scoring goals in the championship and getting sent off regularly.

Michael Carrick was a promising kid who helped get West Ham relegated and now is a playmaker at Englands biggest club.

Dimitar Berbatov was a good striker in the Bundesliga, nothing more, and took a few months to do it for us as well. Now he leads the line for Englands biggest club.

I could think of more I'm sure.

I could live with saying we've fucked up Pav and Gio, but O'Hara and Livermore? Really? O'Hara would have dropped down the leagues long ago but for out perseverance with him, while Livermore is only recently on anybodies radar anyway. As for Bostock, we signed him less than 2 years ago as a 16 year old, anybody who expected him to be anywhere near the first team by now is kidding themselves.

Oh, and Danny Rose? Bollocks to that, he's being integrated slowly but surely and at the expense of other like players who perhaps have more potential and ability.

Good post and pretty much spot on. Keane is another player who've revitalised his career with us (twice), and I would also think Corluka, Modric, Kranjcar and Palacios have been quite pleased with their brief spells. Also, if you look at the players that have left us, I would argue Carrick and Berbatov have to a certain degree stagnated. Havnt done the math, but we must have the second youngest first 11 (or first 18) in the Premiership. People forget how young Corluka, Bassong, BAE, Bale, Modric, Palacios, Huddlestone, Lennon really are..