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Roberto Soldado Starved

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I think Soldado is a great striker but with our current style of play we might as well play Adebayor over him.

From what I saw today because of the inverted wingers the lone frontman is having to act as a supplier to the wing players who like to be direct and get shots off (Sigurdsson and Townsend). It's almost as if Soldado is the one being told to create from holding up the ball and feeding the wingers rather than the other way round. This just isn't natural to him. It's because players like Townsend have the mindset to shoot and be direct over thinking of ways they can feed the striker. That's only natural if you place him on the right.

If we're looking to play that way then as I said we might as well play Ade for his physical presence and ability to hold up the ball. Some argue his finishing is poor but it doesn't really matter if he's not going to be getting chances to score anyway

Completely agree. It seems AVB is asking Soldado to play as a link-up/support striker, constantly with his back to goal, than as the poacher that he is. We need to start playing more through-balls than playing to the wings and putting in ineffectual crosses. Neither Soldado nor Defoe have the height for it and its frustrating to watch. It just isn't working, as otherwise I think the team is actually clicking.
 

shelfboy68

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Haveuote="WiganSpur, post: 3680199, member: 23228"]I think Soldado is a great striker but with our current style of play we might as well play Adebayor over him.

From what I saw today because of the inverted wingers the lone frontman is having to act as a supplier to the wing players who like to be direct and get shots off (Sigurdsson and Townsend). It's almost as if Soldado is the one being told to create from holding up the ball and feeding the wingers rather than the other way round. This just isn't natural to him. It's because players like Townsend have the mindset to shoot and be direct over thinking of ways they can feed the striker. That's only natural if you place him on the right.

If we're looking to play that way then as I said we might as well play Ade for his physical presence and ability to hold up the ball. Some argue his finishing is poor but it doesn't really matter if he's not going to be getting chances to score anyway.

Soldado and direct inverted forwards such as Townsend and Sigurdsson won't work unless we have effective, overlapping full backs on both sides who will play the ball across to the centre forward.

I thought Soldado was an excellent signing at the time and he is a world class poacher but with the way we are playing we should have gone all out for Benteke.[/quote]
Have to agree with all the above and as for benteke I said exactly the same watching it in the pub, ,soldado now looks like a waste of money signing because of the way we play got to feel for the fella a bit.
 

Hoddle_Ledge

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It's just bizarre really that he is being used in this way, I feel sorry for the guy. He heart must sink every time Townsend get the ball as he knows it's not going to go to him.
 

shelfboy68

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[quotewhy"NEVILLEB, post: 3680299, member: 9638"]Everyone's partly to blame but Soldado just hasn't been able to really make a big impact in any game I've seen this season.

He doesn't go looking for the ball, he doesn't offer a secure channel to receive the ball and knock it off, he doesn't offer enough variety in his play.

He looks like a poacher at the moment and you can't play a pure poacher on his own.[/quote]

Then why and who the fuck bought him for then.
 

tobi

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Everyone's partly to blame but Soldado just hasn't been able to really make a big impact in any game I've seen this season.

He doesn't go looking for the ball, he doesn't offer a secure channel to receive the ball and knock it off, he doesn't offer enough variety in his play.

He looks like a poacher at the moment and you can't play a pure poacher on his own.

So far this season he has made many good runs but his team mates either don't see him, choose not to pass to him or delay the pass.

its ridiculous the amount of times our players fail to see open passing lanes. He creates enough space for through balls to be played to him but the others don't see it, the gap ends up being filled and we have to recycle possession again.

Playing with inverted wingers isn't a problem but they need to play keep their heads up and their eyes open, Eriksen and Lamela need a run in the team and Townsend needs to be told to stop shooting or dropped, he's becoming predictable.
 
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piedpiper

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Not having a pop at Soldado, as in the right system/style of play he would score loads, but we should have paid what Villa wanted for Benteke. He was made to play this system and a battering ram of a striker was what we needed, with Defoe/a oung poacher coming off the bench fo the last quarter.....


did you not get the memo ................... he is a one season wonder and the second season syndrome will definetly affect him. overhyped player. Villa and Soldado are the real deal, world class proven strikers who have not just done it for one season but have been performing at a higher level for several seasons.

Soldado is a nice guy BUT he will not make it in our league Rebrov mk11.
 

TheGreenLily

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Everyone's partly to blame but Soldado just hasn't been able to really make a big impact in any game I've seen this season.

He doesn't go looking for the ball, he doesn't offer a secure channel to receive the ball and knock it off, he doesn't offer enough variety in his play.

He looks like a poacher at the moment and you can't play a pure poacher on his own.

Okaaaay!!?, I saw him make plenty of runs and try and find space, he just got no service as far to many of our players are as thick shit and never bother looking for him.

He is an out an out striker, who can also link up play very well. You want him in the box and get the ball to his feet and we have only don't that once, he started the move and Paulinho laid the ball of for him to score.
 

THOWIG

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The 96th minute summed it up for me. We have one of the best one touch finishers in the game and Townsend blasts a shot straight at the keeper instead of crossing to Soldado. You could see Soldado's annoyance.
 

TheGreenLily

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It's just bizarre really that he is being used in this way, I feel sorry for the guy. He heart must sink every time Townsend get the ball as he knows it's not going to go to him.
Townsend is over rated and shit in my books. Just simply because his decision making is so fucking awful and he is more concerned with being the next Bale rather doing the job he is supposed to be doing, which is supplying Soldado and creating chance... and yes taking a shot when it is appropriate and no other better options.
 

Dembele'Disciple

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Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the former.

Goal scoring stats fool people, players like soldado don't score loads in the prem. He has no special qualities, and its not reflecting well against prem defenders...as I said it would.

I'm confident that I'm going to have to wait till the end of the season for people to see the
 

Dembele'Disciple

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Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the former.

Goal scoring stats fool people, players like soldado don't score loads in the prem. He has no special qualities, and its not reflecting well against prem defenders...as I said it would.

I'm confident that I'm going to have to wait till the end of the season for people to see the
 

only1waddle

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Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the former.

Goal scoring stats fool people, players like soldado don't score loads in the prem. He has no special qualities, and its not reflecting well against prem defenders...as I said it would.

I'm confident that I'm going to have to wait till the end of the season for people to see the


My dad's bigger than your dad..
 

eViL

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I personally think Soldado isn't getting enough games.

There's no rhythm for him to get into at the moment.

Soldado not enough, Paulinho too much.
 

thinktank

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It's just bizarre really that he is being used in this way, I feel sorry for the guy. He heart must sink every time Townsend get the ball as he knows it's not going to go to him.

He was uber pissed at townsy today. Just not fair on him...and also a criminal waste of the striking potential that he has.
 

haslemereyid

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Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the Told you guys he's an average player but some argued and felt I was speaking nonsense. Told you guys benteke would be the better option but was told I'm an idiot, look at him now, and tell me whether I was right or wrong, I'd be leaning toward the former.

Goal scoring stats fool people, players like soldado don't score loads in the prem. He has no special qualities, and its not reflecting well against prem defenders...as I said it would.

I'm confident that I'm going to have to wait till the end of the season for people to see the

Need to lie down after attempting to read that.....
 

ohtottenham!

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Townsend is over rated and shit in my books. Just simply because his decision making is so fucking awful and he is more concerned with being the next Bale rather doing the job he is supposed to be doing, which is supplying Soldado and creating chance... and yes taking a shot when it is appropriate and no other better options.
Ok...you're on speed!
 
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