Worst since.....

[Lighty64]

It's eminently cathartic to rip into the fucker though. £30m and he's done nothing but nearly break Harry Arter's cheekbone. And I really really mean "done nothing". I can't think of one pass, dribble or tackle that's impressed me. Coupled to the fact no one thought he was worth £30m even before he arrived. Moreover he must have been the worst player on the pitch the other night in the worst performance of Poch's reign.

sorry my disagree for this is the bolded part, only 2 players on the field deserved to be paid, but the worst player on the night even if he he had 1 threatening moment was Walker.

the only trouble is them both being so bad didn't help with them both defending the right hand side.

the team played crap

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

Possibly but I think there are also some who are determined to be proved right.

That is always true. I posted my discomfort at the sissoko signing on here and on reddit, and then have refrained from saying anything about him since then. although, the lamela thread more than proves your point.

 

[VanZan]

sorry my disagree for this is the bolded part, only 2 players on the field deserved to be paid, but the worst player on the night even if he he had 1 threatening moment was Walker.

the only trouble is them both being so bad didn't help with them both defending the right hand side.

the team played crap

I thought the stats bore out that he actually was our worst player on the pitch? Didn't Sissoko lose possession about 31 times or summat?

 

[Lighty64]

I thought the stats bore out that he actually was our worst player on the pitch? Didn't Sissoko lose possession about 31 times or summat?

I'm not sticking up for Sissoko, but Walker might of not had the ball as much, and with stats it might of included Lloris kicking it to him which were never easy to control.

what did the stats say about Walker losing it in the most vital areas? or why he made such little effort to get too the deflection that he then put in the path of the scorer?

 

[TwanYid]

I may be being a bit thick here so bear with me but...

Ok, let me get this straight: we signed Sissoko for "30 mil," but that number only matters if he stays/plays with us for 5 years? So if, say, we cut him in the summer- we are free and clear of him, having only spunked 6 mil on the lad?!? So again- the "30 mil" number is kind of meaningless? Yes?

So in no way are we obligated to actually pay the "30 mil" figure-- unless we keep him for five years?!? We're only obligated to pay Newcastle for one season of his service--- 6 mil?!?

I thought the way it works is "Sissoko signed by Spurs for 30 mil" (http://www.espnfc.us/story/2941679/tottenham-hotspur-sign-newcastle-united-midfielder-moussa-sissoko) means that- regardless of how it's divvied up, and whatever form those payments take- we are obligated to pay Newcastle 30 million Pounds for Moussa Sissoko.

Is that not true? What am I missing? I figured that we were on the hook for 30 mil full stop, but that perhaps we could sell the fucker to someone- anyone- to try and get beck some of the money (say, 10 mil or something like that).

What am I missing?

 

[Damian99]

So let me get this straight. We sell him in the summer for 6 mill, we pay Newcastle 6 mill, and we are all square right?

The top of bottom of it is, regardless of the deal, is he's going to cost us £30 million cos there is no way on earth any fucker will take him off our hands.

 

[guiltyparty]

I may be being a bit thick here so bear with me but...

Ok, let me get this straight: we signed Sissoko for "30 mil," but that number only matters if he stays/plays with us for 5 years? So if, say, we cut him in the summer- we are free and clear of him, having only spunked 6 mil on the lad?!? So again- the "30 mil" number is kind of meaningless? Yes?

So in no way are we obligated to actually pay the "30 mil" figure-- unless we keep him for five years?!? We're only obligated to pay Newcastle for one season of his service--- 6 mil?!?

I thought the way it works is "Sissoko signed by Spurs for 30 mil" (http://www.espnfc.us/story/2941679/tottenham-hotspur-sign-newcastle-united-midfielder-moussa-sissoko) means that- regardless of how it's divvied up, and whatever form those payments take- we are obligated to pay Newcastle 30 million Pounds for Moussa Sissoko.

Is that not true? What am I missing? I figured that we were on the hook for 30 mil full stop, but that perhaps we could sell the fucker to someone- anyone- to try and get beck some of the money (say, 10 mil or something like that).

What am I missing?

You're not missing anything. For some reason, staggered payments, which is pretty much standard practice on all transfers, has been highlighted on this one as if it's some get-out-jail-free card, when it's not.

 

[millsey]

You're not missing anything. For some reason, staggered payments, which is pretty much standard practice on all transfers, has been highlighted on this one as if it's some get-out-jail-free card, when it's not.

100%. Tell A&C this

 

[guiltyparty]

100%. Tell A&C this

I don't have any inside knowledge, if A&C knows otherwise, I'd listen to him. But that Standard story being used as evidence isn't evidence, and I do think you're getting unfair abuse on this.

The Standard have just been given a line by the club, and there's no further details after what is a throwaway line really. All it says is we'd only pay 30m if he served the full five-year term - just as we did for Soldado and various others. That's not a new concept. So what would we pay if he doesn't? It doesn't say. So how does the deal differ at all? It doesn't say. There is no more info.

It would make next to no sense for Newcastle to do a deal that could see a 30m player potentially go for just 6m, with only length of service as a caveat, especially when they had two clubs playing off against each other for a big fee.

Imagine if we flog him for 15m after a year - so we'd make 9m on the deal for a 30m player who'd had a 50% markdown?! That's just utter bullshit. There must be other performance caveats, sell-on fees or some other kind of deal that has not been revealed.

Or most likely, it's standard instalments with some heavy PR-spin with a friendly press outlet to make it look like we got a good deal, to file alongside Real's patronising commercial partnership when Modric went or that lovely letter from Rivaldo.

But I don't know. All I do know is that Spurs were not in much of a bargaining position - we were a busted flush in the transfer market, Newcastle had been raking in the money, and by A&C's own suggestion, there was trouble at mill for Poch/Levy over lack of transfers - so the idea of a Levy fluking a textbook special seems to be pushing it.

 

[double0]

I'd like to say, let's give Sissoko a chance first before the Wolves rip him to pieces.

Lets also be fair about the defeat at Wembley, that wasn't all down to Sissoko. Many of the more established players ie Walker Eriksen Son etc were absolutely as bad.

I get the 30M fee and all that but let's be fair about blaming Sissoko for that fee, that's not down to him.

As fans I think we should give Sissoko a chance he's now part of the Tottenham family.

 

[spursfan77]

Gilberto cost a solitary million. Not fucking 30. He is the worst signing, pound for pound, since Andy Carroll. For us, he's our worst ever. At least Soldado tried to not be crap.

Yep. I've said it since he signed. He'll go down as our worst ever signing. He's even worse than I actually thought he was!

 

[Ghost Hardware]

No, it's only for each year he's with us.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-mauricio-pochettino-wanted-the-a3334451.html

Depressing thing about that artical is that it links us to Mayer, Coric, Fekir and obviously Isco all of which would have been... well.... better (to understate dramatically)

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Come back Ruel Fox all is forgiven..........

 

[Trix]

Biggest waste of money since Lamela, who once given time to settle, turned out not to be a waste of money.

 

[Sophos151]

Biggest waste of money since Lamela, who once given time to settle, turned out not to be a waste of money.

Difference being, Lamela was a young player joining from a foreign league and troubled by injuries. Sissoko is an experienced player, with a lot of premier league appearances.

 

[SoulDog]

Biggest waste of money since Lamela, who once given time to settle, turned out not to be a waste of money.

and you could also always see lamela was good. I always knew he was a great footballer,. I dont actually hate sissoko I think hes got something, when he wants to he can beat a player and hes got a bit of skill but he dont do it enough, hes just an okay squad player IMO. we are missing lamela and it shows.

 

[FreddieYid]

...Helder Postiga for £18m about 15 years ago?

Honestly, some people have some short memories. Not that long ago we were signing the likes of Gregorz Rasiak and Ricardo Rocha...

£8.25m