Where are they now?

[eddiebailey]

I recall a respected blogger (who shall remain nameless) lauding Hutchins whilst dismissing Livermore. Just shows it really is hard to tell who is going to make it.

 

[jimtheyid]

Windy?

 

[eddiebailey]

No; another, I am not sure if he is still going.

 

[wlhatwhl]

Excellent thread - very interesting work.

Sam Cox was at Borehamwood last season and scored twice in 24 appearances.

An article I wrote last September on my blog: http://tottenham-spur.blogspot.co.uk/2011/09/where-have-all-tottenhams-academy.html

 

[Krafty]

A few things come to mind...

Goes to show that whenever a team snaps up anyone under 16 its no guarantee, no matter if they are the next messi, that they will make the grade. Its not unique to our club by any means, and it will be interesting to see how Coulibaly does as an example of this.

Secondly, disappointing to see so many youth players not in the professional leagues, or even in football.

Thirdly, shocking how few players even had a look in at Spurs, even for friendlies. Harry, for his all his faults, has at least given a lot more of the academy players an experience of the first team squad, if not game time. Whether Lancaster, Stewart, Kane, Nicholson, Parratt and the like make is another matter, but at least we have looked to give them a chance.

 

[Spursidol]

A few things come to mind...

Goes to show that whenever a team snaps up anyone under 16 its no guarantee, no matter if they are the next messi, that they will make the grade. Its not unique to our club by any means, and it will be interesting to see how Coulibaly does as an example of this.

Successes from the academy is a 'numbers' game - crudely if you take 10 top performing kids at say aged 16, possibly only one will make it in the professional leagues. So its worthwhile looking at Coulibally's age group rather than just Coulibally as its quite possible for Coulibally not to make it whilst one of his seemingly less illustrious fellow players now to make it (good example would be that I cannot recall any youth watchers tipping Livermore to succeed)

Secondly, disappointing to see so many youth players not in the professional leagues, or even in football. Yes but there are far more footballers being trained than the professional game can accomodate - equally I understand that less than 10% of trained barristers work as barristers (again too many trained than the legal profession can accomodate).

Thirdly, shocking how few players even had a look in at Spurs, even for friendlies. Harry, for his all his faults, has at least given a lot more of the academy players an experience of the first team squad, if not game time. Whether Lancaster, Stewart, Kane, Nicholson, Parratt and the like make is another matter, but at least we have looked to give them a chance.

Agreed - but its a balancing act for any manager who needs to win games to play a young player over an experienced player. its mainly been in Europa League, which many believe has too many games and too little prize money and hence has a low value', where Redknapp has given youth a chance. Hopefully we repeat that this season - but training as a team before hand, last season it looked as if they mainly first met 10 minutes before the game !

 

[wlhatwhl]

Agreed - but its a balancing act for any manager who needs to win games to play a young player over an experienced player. its mainly been in Europa League, which many believe has too many games and too little prize money and hence has a low value', where Redknapp has given youth a chance. Hopefully we repeat that this season - but training as a team before hand, last season it looked as if they mainly first met 10 minutes before the game !

You're being rather unfair to the young players who played in the Europa League last season. They mostly played very well and worked hard together as a team - they showed that in both their difficult away games and the poorest display came at home against PAOK when a greater number of squad players played and they seemed less than delighted to be involved in the match.

 

[Spursidol]

You're being rather unfair to the young players who played in the Europa League last season. They mostly played very well and worked hard together as a team - they showed that in both their difficult away games and the poorest display came at home against PAOK when a greater number of squad players played and they seemed less than delighted to be involved in the match.

Agreed re highlighted bit. Whilst I thought the young players acquiteed themselves well - perhaps one if the best performances being PAOK away with a high number of yonger players in that team - overall the teams played seemed ro not be as fluent as they could be, which I put down to the combination of the squad players selected plus younger players in a number of teams not having played/trained much together and often not gellling as a team as much as I would like.