What Our Opponents' Fans Are Saying About Us 23/24

[tommo84]

And to be fair that season was an outlier for Defoe as well, his next best was 13. Richarlison obviously isn’t the all round player Berba was, and probably not Keane either. But he’s a better player than Defoe (who did very little outside score, and as above didn’t do that very often) who is remembered a lot more fondly

Defoe was a cracking player, who pulled defenders all over the place and was a very real goal threat any time he got the ball in the opponents half. I defend Richarlison a lot but not sure how anyone who has watched a lot of both players could conclude definitively that Richarlison is/was the better player. Defoe scored goals Richarlison and many other No. 9s only dream of.

 

[Shanks]

Same. I think Johnson has been really good. His finishing hasn’t been great but I think he’s otherwise been very dangerous and his pace is a real asset for us.

I just can't see either tbh, feels very lightweight both offensively and in defence, and I heard about his pace but he doesn't seem to burn past players either.

I'd say he hasn't been bad, but not great eorher

 

[Metalhead]

I just can't see either tbh, feels very lightweight both offensively and in defence, and I heard about his pace but he doesn't seem to burn past players either.

I'd say he hasn't been bad, but not great eorher

Plenty of scope for improvement/progression at his age.

 

[Shanks]

Plenty of scope for improvement/progression at his age.

Oh 100%, and bare injuries he likely wouldn't have featured as much either.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Defoe was a cracking player, who pulled defenders all over the place and was a very real goal threat any time he got the ball in the opponents half. I defend Richarlison a lot but not sure how anyone who has watched a lot of both players could conclude definitively that Richarlison is/was the better player. Defoe scored goals Richarlison and many other No. 9s only dream of.

Defoe was also a very good hold-up player, which Richie, despite his size, is clearly not. JD proved that you didn't need to be a six-footer to hnadle the long ball, as long as it was played to his feet, not his chest. Instead of holding off his CB, with his back to goal, Defoe would simply turn 90 degrees and run fast to one of the touchlines and wait for the cavalry to arrive.

He also had no backlift on either foot and was a very sweet striker of the ball. There'd be none of this bollocks tippy-toeing around the edge of the box that we're seeing now. It would be shift and shoot, 10 times a half, with Defoe.

 

[dontcallme]

Defoe was a cracking player, who pulled defenders all over the place and was a very real goal threat any time he got the ball in the opponents half. I defend Richarlison a lot but not sure how anyone who has watched a lot of both players could conclude definitively that Richarlison is/was the better player. Defoe scored goals Richarlison and many other No. 9s only dream of.

It’s an interesting one.

In my view Defoe’s biggest positive was he could create his own chances. His ability to shift and shoot was excellent. But he wasn’t strong on hold up play. Didn’t assist or work hard off the ball.

Richarlison relies much more on service to get goals. But he does work hard and use his physicality a bit.

It’s hard to compare the two.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Defoe was also a very good hold-up player, which Richie, despite his size, is clearly not. JD proved that you didn't need to be a six-footer to hnadle the long ball, as long as it was played to his feet, not his chest. Instead of holding off his CB, with his back to goal, Defoe would simply turn 90 degrees and run fast to one of the touchlines and wait for the cavalry to arrive.

He also had no backlift on either foot and was a very sweet striker of the ball. There'd be none of this bollocks tippy-toeing around the edge of the box that we're seeing now. It would be shift and shoot, 10 times a half, with Defoe.

it was highly annoying alongside being offside a lot.

Defoe was an incredibly frustrating player

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

I just can't see either tbh, feels very lightweight both offensively and in defence, and I heard about his pace but he doesn't seem to burn past players either.

I'd say he hasn't been bad, but not great eorher

Hmm...he's very young, only been here a few months and still integrating into the squad.

You judge too early. The main thing for me is he's looking better game by game and you can see his confidence growing.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

it was highly annoying alongside being offside a lot

Defoe was an incredibly frustrating player

I’d take a mid 20’s Defoe every day of the week over Richy

 

[CantSmileWithoutYou]

And to be fair that season was an outlier for Defoe as well, his next best was 13. Richarlison obviously isn’t the all round player Berba was, and probably not Keane either. But he’s a better player than Defoe (who did very little outside score, and as above didn’t do that very often) who is remembered a lot more fondly

Don't be so bloody stupid.

 

[AssaTM]

And to be fair that season was an outlier for Defoe as well, his next best was 13. Richarlison obviously isn’t the all round player Berba was, and probably not Keane either. But he’s a better player than Defoe (who did very little outside score, and as above didn’t do that very often) who is remembered a lot more fondly

This is one of the most wild takes I've ever heard on this forum

 

[goughie1966]

State of this thread again.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

And to be fair that season was an outlier for Defoe as well, his next best was 13. Richarlison obviously isn’t the all round player Berba was, and probably not Keane either. But he’s a better player than Defoe (who did very little outside score, and as above didn’t do that very often) who is remembered a lot more fondly

By this logic, he’s also better than Haaland?

 

[keithtighe93]

Peak Defoe would be class for us now

 

[Shanks]

Hmm...he's very young, only been here a few months and still integrating into the squad.

You judge too early. The main thing for me is he's looking better game by game and you can see his confidence growing.

Not judging too early in the slightest, just stating what I've seen, I cannot see the pace there (which I was expecting) and he is lightweight (which can and should develop), not sure either of that can be countered unless I've been watching someone different.

As I said, not been great, but hasn't been bad, and if we hadn't had injuries he probably wouldn't have played as much.

One for the future, I'm really not sure either, I'll put him on the skipp pile at the moment

 

[Dillspur]

Peak Defoe would be class for us now

It's hard to say, the game has changed so much even since he's retired. He always played with a traditional "big man" in a 2.

 

[midoshairband]

the big question is, what are our opponents fans saying about Jermain Defoe?

 

[tommo84]

I contributed to the Defoe stuff so, if anyone wishes to continue that discussion:

Ex-Player Watch - Jermain Defoe

Absolutely – Jermain seems like he'd be a top top top youth coach. There are countless stories of the impact he's had directly on youth players, even our own Harry Kane. I'd imagine he'd like a bit of a break after a long career. But if he decides he's interested in coaching, I hope we'll give...

spurscommunity.co.uk

And the Brennan Johnson stuff can go in his thread too: https://spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/player-watch-brennan-johnson.153691/

 

[dontcallme]

State of this thread again.

Sorry, didn't realise what thread I was in. Though I only made 1 post.

 

[riggi]

It's got to be a piss take.

Bet it’s not.