West Ham Olympic Stadium

[spurs]

Signed
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[Lilbaz]

Can we link the threads? @InOffMeLeftShin

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/olympic-stadium-fiasco.119834/page-2#post-4742564

 

[Wsussexspur]

Signed! Doubt it will do any good or change anything but if don't try you don't get! To be honest I'm not sure how much of this West Ham can be blamed for. Boris and whoever else made the decision and signed off on this the deal should take the majority of the blame for this mess! They should have been stronger and negotiated better with West Ham rather than pandering to them and agreeing to give them a stadium for pretty much nothing!

 

[GobbyJJ]

Done, 19,712

 

[spurs]

We need to promote this. Anyone use a shef Utd forum?

 

[Wellspurs]

We need to promote this. Anyone use a shef Utd forum?

Or Millwall or Charlton?

 

[philip]

The photos of the stadium currently has the white and black seats.

West Ham's mock ups have the west ham logo's mass up from seats.

3 questions.

Who would be paying for these new seats

As it's not their stadium, how can they be allowed to do that.

Surely other teams or sports playing there or for athletics don't want the west ham branding. Will these seats be demountable and who would pay for that.

 

[Wellspurs]

Has anyone posted a link on KUMB, I'm sure quite a few will fall for it?

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Signed! Doubt it will do any good or change anything but if don't try you don't get! To be honest I'm not sure how much of this West Ham can be blamed for. Boris and whoever else made the decision and signed off on this the deal should take the majority of the blame for this mess! They should have been stronger and negotiated better with West Ham rather than pandering to them and agreeing to give them a stadium for pretty much nothing!

I agree: I don't think WHU can take the blame it, but neither should they get the benefit of such huge public funding given that they're operating entirely commercially and competitively.

The counter-argument is that their use of the stadium makes the whole thing viable and therefore provides a net public benefit. But that's balderdash (polite for utter fucking bollocks) unless there's a clause that returns any undue operating and capital profits to the public purse. If such a clause exists, it should be made public, otherwise we are entitled to assume that it doesn't, in which case the public is overpaying for the benefit it receives.

This is a serious issue about the use of public money, especially when so many other more important things can't be funded.

 

[philip]

I agree: I don't think WHU can take the blame it, but neither should they get the benefit of such huge public funding given that they're operating entirely commercially and competitively.

The counter-argument is that their use of the stadium makes the whole thing viable and therefore provides a net public benefit. But that's balderdash (polite for utter fucking bollocks) unless there's a clause that returns any undue operating and capital profits to the public purse. If such a clause exists, it should be made public, otherwise we are entitled to assume that it doesn't, in which case the public is overpaying for the benefit it receives.

This is a serious issue about the use of public money, especially when so many other more important things can't be funded.

Our alternative bid which meant knocking it down but also included completely rebuilding a purpose built athletics stadium at Crystal Palace blows that argument out of the water.

And even if they do somehow manage to argue that they have to keep the athletics in that stadium (God knows how they would justify that) there is still absolutely no reason to stop Leyton Orient from sharing the OS as well. They could afford the same £2m a year rent.

 

[Lilbaz]

Our alternative bid which meant knocking it down but also included completely rebuilding a purpose built athletics stadium at Crystal Palace blows that argument out of the water.

And even if they do somehow manage to argue that they have to keep the athletics in that stadium (God knows how they would justify that) there is still absolutely no reason to stop Leyton Orient from sharing the OS as well. They could afford the same £2m a year rent.

Or just do what it was designed for in the first place. Turn it into a 25k seater athletic stadium. They could have hosted rugby, concerts, xgames. Enough to cover the cost of running it.
Nsming rights could also have been sold. Even if it was only for £20m or so that would have helped cover the costs. But newham, coe, boris wanted their egos scratched costing the tax payer additional hundreds of £millions.

This petition is nothing. The supporters trusts should complain to the eu snd demand an investigation of state aid. Whether it is west hams fault or not they will be forced to pay the going rate. Which is £12m a year for wembley so say £9m for the os? Also would have to pay more of the conversion costs.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Or just do what it was designed for in the first place. Turn it into a 25k seater athletic stadium. They could have hosted rugby, concerts, xgames. Enough to cover the cost of running it.
Nsming rights could also have been sold. Even if it was only for £20m or so that would have helped cover the costs. But newham, coe, boris wanted their egos scratched costing the tax payer additional hundreds of £millions.

This petition is nothing. The supporters trusts should complain to the eu snd demand an investigation of state aid. Whether it is west hams fault or not they will be forced to pay the going rate. Which is £12m a year for wembley so say £9m for the os? Also would have to pay more of the conversion costs.

Agreed, except it should be far more expensive than Wembley, because Wembley is only giving security of tenure for a year at a time, whereas WHU have the OS for 99 years, which is worth a great deal more to them.

 

[Wellspurs]

22,469 spread the word!

 

[mkkid]

The Norwich,Birmingham and villa trusts have now come on board as well.

 

[taidgh]

signed. 22,667

 

[Lilbaz]

Can people put it on their facebook page and ask for it to be shared?

 

[markiespurs]

The Norwich,Birmingham and villa trusts have now come on board as well.

Good, the deal West Ham have over the OS will give them an unfair financial advantage and affects, at the very least, every team in the top 2 divisions.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Good work sharing this everybody, it should be spread out there as whats gone on is a disgrace.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Christ that looks shit Apparently that gaps gets closed up on only one side. Behind the goals the gaps will be even bigger. 20m from the front row to the touchline at the halfway line.

(thanks to sideways on SIMB)

WTF thats not how they are doing the movable seating it must join to the permanent seats? It seems way too far a distance to view from the main stands compared to any ground I have been to in the UK.

 

[Flynn]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/34096805

Sprinklers have a life of their own. Shame this didn't happen during a west ham match.