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We need to concentrate on winning the Europa League now....

Shea

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I think it's fair to expect that we're playing a lot better by the time the knockout stages start. Besides, we have been pretty good vs. the better sides this season, and unless City end up third, the teams we meet will be of the same standard as Southampton, Everton and Arsenal.
Have we been pretty good against the better sides this year?

Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea all beat us by 3 clear goals and then went on to show their form by losing/dropping points to weaker teams or teams we were until recently much better than

Ok we got a point of Arsenal by parking the bus but they just got spanked by Stoke and have been very poor this year (while still out playing us and us scraping a point by the skin of our teeth)

We beat Everton when we admittedly played well but they've been it pretty terrible form leading up to that game in the league and lost again since

Maybe we seem to play better against teams who attack us and struggle against teams who sit back and catch us on the break - I dunno but I think the Europa cup this year is a complete day dream and I don't think we have a chance

We'll probably lose on Thursday and end up with a CL drop out in the next round which will make progression more difficult
 

prawnsandwich

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Have we been pretty good against the better sides this year?

Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea all beat us by 3 clear goals and then went on to show their form by losing/dropping points to weaker teams or teams we were until recently much better than

Ok we got a point of Arsenal by parking the bus but they just got spanked by Stoke and have been very poor this year (while still out playing us and us scraping a point by the skin of our teeth)

We beat Everton when we admittedly played well but they've been it pretty terrible form leading up to that game in the league and lost again since

Maybe we seem to play better against teams who attack us and struggle against teams who sit back and catch us on the break - I dunno but I think the Europa cup this year is a complete day dream and I don't think we have a chance

We'll probably lose on Thursday and end up with a CL drop out in the next round which will make progression more difficult
I think you kinda missed the point. We have been trounced by the top teams but we do better when we play the ahem "better" teams who come to play against us.
The Liverpool game was an abortion.
 

myhartlane

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All very pessimistic on this thread. The margins between mediocrity (where we are now) and success are quite slim in my opinion. All it takes is for Soldado to find form combined with some of the collective form that we showed against Everton, confidence builds, we go on a good run of games over the rest of December and Jan then things start to look very different. When the Europa starts again, the run continues and the momentum builds and we could find ourselves going quite far in the competition.

Well that's one scenario.
 

Rout-Ledge

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I don't think we should even be thinking about getting CL qualification at the moment.

Our squad is so far off being competitive at that level.
 

tiger666

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All very pessimistic on this thread. The margins between mediocrity (where we are now) and success are quite slim in my opinion. All it takes is for Soldado to find form combined with some of the collective form that we showed against Everton, confidence builds, we go on a good run of games over the rest of December and Jan then things start to look very different. When the Europa starts again, the run continues and the momentum builds and we could find ourselves going quite far in the competition.

Well that's one scenario.

That's the problem though isn't it.
 

WestBelfast Spurs

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we should concentrate on not going down, wouldn't mind a season out of Europe to be honest also

(1st game at home at 3pm in 8 months)
 

mil1lion

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We should not put all our eggs in one basket and try to win in all competitions.
 

HotspurFC1950

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I think some are forgetting that Poch rotated with up to 8 or more changes from Thursday to Sunday.
 

TheAmerican

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Obviously you'd prefer to win the Europa League than finish fourth, a trophy and CL next season. But I don't agree at all, I think its a tougher ask than finishing fourth given how badly so many of the bigger Clubs in the Prem are doing, Its open season for fourth, and possibly third, for anyone who can put a really good run together.

Both should be the priority but with no EL until February we should be resting as many as we can for this Thursday given we're already through.

A good run over the festive period could put us in a very good position, particularly if we improve in the second half of the season.

So its a raft of changes for me this Thursday, as if we were to win our next three League games we're in business by the time United and Chelsea come to the Lane.

I also believe that league position is a factor in transfers. It would be nice for incomings to look at us optimistically, rather than simply a financial step up and a football step sideways.
 

DEFchenkOE

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Olyimpiakos, Anderlecht, Zenit and Liverpool drop into the EL. Don't see us beating any of those teams over 2 legs on our current form. Possibly City or Roma to drop in tomorrow. I'll be amazed if we get past the quarters tbh
 

Syn_13

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Olyimpiakos, Anderlecht, Zenit and Liverpool drop into the EL. Don't see us beating any of those teams over 2 legs on our current form. Possibly City or Roma to drop in tomorrow. I'll be amazed if we get past the quarters tbh

Cup games can be funny things. Those 4 teams don't look all that and I reckon things could go our way over a couple of games. City and Roma would worry me. Both of them are too good for us.
 

Blake Griffin

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you can get lucky over 9 games. a soft draw, the odd decision going our way, a performance here and there. putting a run together in the league looks a long way off.
 

SpurSince57

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Cup games can be funny things. Those 4 teams don't look all that and I reckon things could go our way over a couple of games. City and Roma would worry me. Both of them are too good for us.

We can't be drawn against another EPL club in the round of 32, can we?

In the normal run of things I'd fancy us against Olympiakos and Anderlecht, and probably Zenit too.
 

Syn_13

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We can't be drawn against another EPL club in the round of 32, can we?

In the normal run of things I'd fancy us against Olympiakos and Anderlecht, and probably Zenit too.

No, but I mean going on to face City or Liverpool afterwards.
 
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