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Tottenham Vs Arsenal: Match Thread

Jaesen1

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Might be worth mentioning that Arsenal have West Brom at home and Everton away next, whilst we have Villa away and Bournemouth at home. I know which two fixtures I'd rather have if I was wanting to open a points gap.
 

The Feet of Hoddle

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Take a breather mate. You're over reacting massively
Excuse me? Why do I need to take a breather?

I am as calm as anything, as it is only a game remember not the end of the world.

The audacity of some people to think that you are over reacting, throwing teddies against wall and preparing to cut wrists because you have an opinion.

So I am out of here and going to continue to chilling like have been doing all afternoon...

And yes, I do think we have blown our title chances, but that doesn't mean I am upset or anything, just the way I think it is.

Toodle pip and enjoy the rest of the mad house :)
 

Phomesy

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Despite the result it's still incredible to think that, for ten minutes, Spurs were top of the league.

In March.

Still such a great season so far. And still everything to play for.
 

greaves

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Dec 6, 2006
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do you really think we can compete with man city and guardiola???

they should be walking the league with pellegrini

Yes. I do. Stick another 'optimistic' rating on while you're at it. We hold particular managers and clubs in too high esteem. That's why I admire what Leicester, Ranieri and Watford have achieved. I will be very interested to see how the great demi-God Guardiola deals with a genuinely competitive league. Because as far as I understand he has not been in one yet. I'm sure he's a very nice man with huge success elsewhere and I would certainly invite him for tea. But really... you can only have 11 men on the pitch and all that. With attitude and teamwork as hallmarks of enterprise and success, I'm sorry, I don't see any treason for clubs to roll over and play dead.
 

shelfboy68

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Arsenal will be level on points with us if they win.

I never mentioned about arsenal being level on points with us i simply said that our crack at the title might be gone.
We seem to have the hardest run in of the teams left who can win it, to me we are running out of ideas while struggling to convert.
Despite all this we have done well and should get a champions league place.
 

Mr Pink

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Funny how people see things differently, I actually thought that we went far too gung ho. I know there is an argument that we had seen momentum wildly swing in our favour and to keep going, but personally I think it was the time for calm heads, composure and to keep the ball and be patient until we had run them ragged and the opportunities presented themselves. Instead the game opened up, got 100mph end to end helter skelter stuff with where even people like Eriksen struggled to keep the ball for us, and allowed the likes of Ozil and Sanchez massive freedom.

It is a young team but I think they need to strive to improve their game management. I've posted numerous times this season (as have others) about not being totally happy with ceding possession and dropping off after getting the lead in games and giving the opposition a bit of a sniff, but you always get told you're being too negative for pointing it out. Well today it was a bit of a carbon copy of many games, I don't know if it's tiredness but players stop wanting the ball and others are careless playing lazy flicks here, there and everywhere instead of getting it and keeping it. Today we saw what happens against a decent team, they will punish you for dropping off and giving them a slither of momentum. As I say, we must strive to improve this aspect.

You've certainly a point on the composure but I put that down to complacency and possibly some tiredness kicking in, thinking we had done enough.

For me we didn't show enough of the intensity we showed last season, well Lamela did, but some of the others didn't and that allowed Arsenal more time and space than they should of been afforded.

For me, and in the West Ham game, we didn't do as well collectively, off the ball, as we have this season. First 20 minutes today we were winning the ball back very well but then it just stopped and the game went flat and that suited them being low on confidence away from home, they then got the goal and grew into it.

I thought our final ball was really off the boil today as well.

Overall I'm just disappointed because we've missed a real opportunity today, flat as a pancake.
 

homer hotspur

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Great goal from Harry, but it is telling to me that Arsenal were able to bring in Welbeck for an out of form Giroud and also have Campbell as an option off the bench whereas we have ....................
 

jimmy-jojo

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Despite the result it's still incredible to think that, for ten minutes, Spurs were top of the league.

In March.

Still such a great season so far. And still everything to play for.

Sorry but this is perhaps one of the lamest things I've ever read. I'm assuming it as being sarcastic...?

Is that what it's come down to? We were top for 10 minutes during the game and that is something to be applauded. Such a loser mentality.
 

HobokenSpur

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Guardiola's never managed in a League with more than two competitive teams. Harsh reality to follow.
i'd love celebrity apprentice football manager - get Mourinho, Hiddink, Wegner, etc. to manage a 2nd division side for a year and see who gets relegated :).
 

greaves

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Excuse me? Why do I need to take a breather?

I am as calm as anything, as it is only a game remember not the end of the world.

The audacity of some people to think that you are over reacting, throwing teddies against wall and preparing to cut wrists because you have an opinion.

So I am out of here and going to continue to chilling like have been doing all afternoon...

And yes, I do think we have blown our title chances, but that doesn't mean I am upset or anything, just the way I think it is.

Toodle pip and enjoy the rest of the mad house :)

I cut my teddy bear's wrists instead.
It seemed a safer option, though admittedly on the cowardly side.
I will now throw myself against the wall, by way of compensation.
 

cliff jones

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Disagree. Entirely! I have sais it before and I will say it again: this is the way it is going to be for a very long time. The TV funding is the great equaliser. I think this is good and healthy (in many but not all respects). This is emphatically NOT the last chance saloon. Really. Trust me!

I find this contradictory. Our adedemy won't produce wave after wave of cl standard talent, it would be historical if it did, and Poch won't be here that long. We won't be spending the tv money like others, and because of the stadium not many will question the board if we do slip to 6 or 7 during the build and payback period. Can see others getting in the mix, the Liverpool clubs, Chelsea.

This feels like that chase in the mid 80s to me, we will stay in the mix for a while yet but haven't got enough quality and depth to conquer our run in. Son, Onomah, aren't giving us anything offensively from the bench. Hope you're right of course.
 

DaSpurs

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Great goal from Harry, but it is telling to me that Arsenal were able to bring in Welbeck for an out of form Giroud and also have Campbell as an option off the bench whereas we have ....................

Yup. Has been a massive part of the difference between us and the clubs who have finished above us year after year. We have massively improved in this category, but we still don't have quite consistent enough game changers and winners off the bench. We really need guys like Son and N'jie to settle in and adjust, as Chadli really is the only impact sub we have at the moment, and that's just not good enough for our ambitions.
 

thinktank

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I really don't think it's the mental fortitude we are lacking, I just think it's that bit of intelligence and composure that does for us.

They're inextricably linked.

And the mental toughness needed at this stage of the season when you're near the apex is a different kettle.
 

millsey

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Dec 8, 2005
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26 shots on goal again. You can't tell me we looked like scoring a lot past them today. There's a difference in our shot count and the kind of chances we need to create
 

yiddopaul

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Excuse me? Why do I need to take a breather?

I am as calm as anything, as it is only a game remember not the end of the world.

The audacity of some people to think that you are over reacting, throwing teddies against wall and preparing to cut wrists because you have an opinion.

So I am out of here and going to continue to chilling like have been doing all afternoon...

And yes, I do think we have blown our title chances, but that doesn't mean I am upset or anything, just the way I think it is.

Toodle pip and enjoy the rest of the mad house :)
Alright, calm down.
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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Sorry but we lost our shape and fluency when mason came on for Lamela. There was no reason to make a defensive change at that stage of the game as we we're a man up and in the ascendency and looking like scoring again.

Definitely. Not in hindsight either, my gut feeling was that it was the wrong sub at the time. Almost immediately from looking like scoring a third we surrended the ball in their final third. Didn't look like scoring from that point on and didn't look like we knew what we were trying to do. Poor performances from quite a few players. We didn't deserve to win really but we got handed it on plate and still dropped.
 

Kiedis

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Aug 4, 2013
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Starting to prefer Onomah over Son these days. The former is less inclined to turn over possession with every action.

Reckon Son will become a very useful player, but he has the touch of a scottish 3rd division right back these days.
 
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