Tomorrows Line-up?

[Legend10]

:sleepy::sleepy::sleepy:

You mean, holding on for dear life against Sunderland at home? Taking two games to dispose of a weakened Reading in the cup? Losing at home to Birmingham? Almost getting embarrassed by Aalborg? A flat draw against a poor Anderlecht?

Sorry Ledge, Ramos looks like the genuine business to me, as he does to everyone else, and it really is a pity that the Dear Leader didn't have the guts to go for him in May or June instead of being a vacillating nincompoop, but your efforts to rewrite history and present Jol as a bumbling incompetent who lucked his way to two fifth places are getting increasingly ludicrous.

Do you think they're as ludicrous as your oh so boring "dear leader" comments in virtually every post you make?

As for your other comments and the games you mention if you read my post again I've made no reference to our results at any time. What I said was in the last 3 years our best football has all been played in the last 3 months and I stand by that.

I don't know how often you watch Spurs live although I suspect not very often, well I go to nearly every game home & away and I know over the last few months that the wind of change sweeping through this team isn't far short of a hurricane.

You never know how good a manager is until you give another manager the same group of players which barring 2 appearances by Woodgate and 1 by Hutton has been the case with Jol and Ramos. The last few months and the performances in particular of the likes of JJ, Lenny, Hudd and even Keane amongst others allied to our determination, organisation and ability to be able to play for 90 minutes tells me that Ramos can get way way more out of these players and this team than Jol could ever even dream of.

I'm just gutted that Jol wasn't shipped off to Holland back last May or June and Juande brought in because if so im convinced that we would be playing CL football next season.

 

[SpurSince57]

Do you think they're as ludicrous as your oh so boring "dear leader" comments in virtually every post you make?

As for your other comments and the games you mention if you read my post again I've made no reference to our results at any time. What I said was in the last 3 years our best football has all been played in the last 3 months and I stand by that.

I don't know how often you watch Spurs live although I suspect not very often, well I go to nearly every game home & away and I know over the last few months that the wind of change sweeping through this team isn't far short of a hurricane.

You never know how good a manager is until you give another manager the same group of players which barring 2 appearances by Woodgate and 1 by Hutton has been the case with Jol and Ramos. The last few months and the performances in particular of the likes of JJ, Lenny, Hudd and even Keane amongst others allied to our determination, organisation and ability to be able to play for 90 minutes tells me that Ramos can get way way more out of these players and this team than Jol could ever even dream of.

I'm just gutted that Jol wasn't shipped off to Holland back last May or June and Juande brought in because if so im convinced that we would be playing CL football next season.

No.

And I'm sure Juande would have made a huge difference had he been brought in in May or June. He wasn't. Which suggests that the Dear Leader hasn't learned a thing since the Hoddle farce. I've made my position very plain umpteen times. Let me try again. If Jol wasn't good enough in August, he wasn't good enough in May.

No, I don't go to watch Spurs live very often these days, I've managed two games this season. Does this disqualify me from comment? Comment along the lines that, with a near-full-strength side at last, Jol achieved the best run-in we've had since 1951 last season? With the current squad? (Short, of course, of the 5-star improvements signed during the summer).

And, sorry, you have made reference to results and PPG, and I'll fish out your post if necessary.

And, finally, let me clarify. I'm very pleased indeed with Ramos. Of all the beauty-parade of managers lined up as potential Jol successors, he was the only one I thought might do a better job than Jol (the Wiki brigade were touting that dick Koeman, if Juande decided to stay with Sevilla, so we missed a bullet there). But your constant denigrating of Jol is, frankly, fucking embarrassing.

 

[Beni]

Fuck it, lets get a Yank, Russian, or any other Billionaire who doesn't give two shits about the club, knows fuck all about soccer, and fuck up our club up ie Liverpool, for the sake of their back pockets.

Love him or hate, Levy's made mistakes, but only because he is starved of success like all of us.
Mistake or no mistake of the way they handled the Jol situation, but certainly was the right decision to get Ramos in the end it seems.

 

[Gilzeanking]

I wouldn't go as far as some and denigrate Jol too much .He did his best and yes ,last season's run in was amazing (well done Berby particularly)

BUT I take serious issue with the 'Levy should have sacked Jol in the close season' comments .

OK so 2 5th places and as 57 says ,we'd had our best run in since 1951 .

How could Levy possibly have imagined that the team would come out so badly prepared this season . After 3 games he'd sussed it ( which was a DAMNED SIGHT QUICKER than 95% of posters on here )

He and the Board , or whoever, then went out and got a fantastic replacement, incredible achievement .

So to knock him/the board is spectacularly shortsighted imo, also Mart had some great moments and 2 5ths so good luck to him too .

 

[Legend10]

No.

And I'm sure Juande would have made a huge difference had he been brought in in May or June. He wasn't. Which suggests that the Dear Leader hasn't learned a thing since the Hoddle farce. I've made my position very plain umpteen times. Let me try again. If Jol wasn't good enough in August, he wasn't good enough in May.

No, I don't go to watch Spurs live very often these days, I've managed two games this season. Does this disqualify me from comment? Comment along the lines that, with a near-full-strength side at last, Jol achieved the best run-in we've had since 1951 last season? With the current squad? (Short, of course, of the 5-star improvements signed during the summer).

And, sorry, you have made reference to results and PPG, and I'll fish out your post if necessary.

And, finally, let me clarify. I'm very pleased indeed with Ramos. Of all the beauty-parade of managers lined up as potential Jol successors, he was the only one I thought might do a better job than Jol (the Wiki brigade were touting that dick Koeman, if Juande decided to stay with Sevilla, so we missed a bullet there). But your constant denigrating of Jol is, frankly, fucking embarrassing.

What's embarrassing is your child like stomping of your feet about the "dear leader" Levy and "that big nasty man with the beard" Kemsley. Did they not do and still not do what you want them to? Ahhh what a shame.

If Levy is guilty of anything it was probably not replacing Jol in the summer because he was worried about sections of the fans throwing their toys out of the pram and whinging, whining and moaning. In hindsight probably a decision he regrets massively. Especially as with every game that goes by Ramos exposes Jol's limitations more and more.

Not going to games doesn't exclude anybody from making comment, however those people who do go I personally believe see and feel the difference more. There is an atmosphere and an expectancy that hasn't been there at anytime in years & years even when we finished 5th and nearly made the CL. Much of our football in that period wasn't exactly great and we churned a lot of it out, this team is already totally different and the crowd has a buzz about it.

When next seasons CL draw is made I shall be gutted because we should have been in it.

 

[Berbati]

What's embarrassing is your child like stomping of your feet about the "dear leader" Levy and "that big nasty man with the beard" Kemsley. Did they not do and still not do what you want them to? Ahhh what a shame.

If Levy is guilty of anything it was probably not replacing Jol in the summer because he was worried about sections of the fans throwing their toys out of the pram and whinging, whining and moaning. In hindsight probably a decision he regrets massively. Especially as with every game that goes by Ramos exposes Jol's limitations more and more.

Not going to games doesn't exclude anybody from making comment, however those people who do go I personally believe see and feel the difference more. There is an atmosphere and an expectancy that hasn't been there at anytime in years & years even when we finished 5th and nearly made the CL. Much of our football in that period wasn't exactly great and we churned a lot of it out, this team is already totally different and the crowd has a buzz about it.

When next seasons CL draw is made I shall be gutted because we should have been in it.

Exactly because there were too many "Jolists", Levy didn't take the right decision already in August (before that it would appear as lunacy) and that has costed the season in the Prem. Jol was good enough to make a club spending more than Arsenal, Liverpool, Juventus and muuuch more than Sevilla 5th in the league. Given the starting position, that wasn't bad but wasn't that great as some try to present it. Levy has been soooooo much more important to the progress of THFC than Jol that any debate about it inevitably would involve stupid comments.