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Monkey Bastard Hands

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I didn't see the game against City so I can't and won't comment on our performance, however I was slightly confused when I saw what substitutions he'd made during the game. Can someone explain to me why they were made as on the face of it i'm a bit worried that they make no sense...

Capoue for Dembele - injury or tactical?
Siggy for Naughton - really baffled at this one. Who slotted in behind Ade when this happened, Ericksen? Where did Naughton fit in?
Holtby for Ericksen - kind of makes sense for the last 10 mins of the game.

Apologies if this has been discussed in the match thread, I tried to look in there but it made me depressed.
 

Strikeb4ck

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Capoue for Dembele could have been either, not really sure. If it was tactical, would rather have seen Bentaleb come off though.

As for the others...err I don't know if you saw but we had Rose sent off (ridiculously so) in about the 50th minute...Kind of forced changes. Naughton went to LB, Eriksen shifted to LM, Ade by himself in front of the midfield 4.

I think Holtby just came on for a run out and to let Eriksen get 10 minutes less running with a match at the weekend.

Substitutions weren't really a problem today, all made sense or were enforced.

Problem was the idiot with the flag on the touchline.
 

JerryGarcia

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Dembele picked up a knock
Naughton came on due to Rose's red card and we played a sort of 4-4-1 if you want to call it something.
Holtby was just a like for like swap as far as I know

Tim didn't really have much choice in what he could do tonight and I'm not sure anything would have been enough with the form City are in right now.
 

SpursManChris

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Holtby for Ericksen - kind of makes sense for the last 10 mins of the game.

No, it's the complete opposite. 10 minutes is useless. Holtby should have replaced Eriksen at half time because he was hopeless. And in answer to your other question, it was 4-4-1 with Eriksen on left
 

Monkey Bastard Hands

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No, it's the complete opposite. 10 minutes is useless. Holtby should have replaced Eriksen at half time because he was hopeless. And in answer to your other question, it was 4-4-1 with Eriksen on left

My query was to do with the players involved, not the timing of the substitutions.
 

Danners9

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Dembele picked up a knock
Naughton came on due to Rose's red card and we played a sort of 4-4-1 if you want to call it something.
Holtby was just a like for like swap as far as I know

Tim didn't really have much choice in what he could do tonight and I'm not sure anything would have been enough with the form City are in right now.
I am hoping the next few teams are more like the true first XI. Sandro, Paulinho, Vertonghen all back (soon) should make a huge difference.

Yesterday was terrible but not really a stick to beat Sherwood with. Existing injuries, knock to Dembele, red card all contributed to a nightmare evening. And we all knew it would be tough beforehand, made worse by what happened.
 

rabbikeane

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No, it's the complete opposite. 10 minutes is useless. Holtby should have replaced Eriksen at half time because he was hopeless. And in answer to your other question, it was 4-4-1 with Eriksen on left

No experienced manager would have made the Eriksen Holtby substitution at half time, when he at the same time is forced to make a central midfield substitution due to injury.
Nor would he use his final substitution early on after having again being forced to put on another defender after his left back got sent off. In hindsight the Holtby sub turned out rather pointless, but it's understandable that Sherwood waited with the substitution - cause he'd want to wait to make sure we didn't go even one man more down than we already were. Also there was no substitution to be made that would give us a shot at points to be fair. Perhaps Holtby coming on was even about giving him a final run out at White Hart Lane before he leaves, at that point it was all about getting any fresh legs on.
 

Monkey Bastard Hands

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oh right. Well in that case Holtby was the obvious choice to replace him. Not sure how that could even be slightly in question

Tell me then who would you have put in for the last 7 minutes of the game bearing in mind the scoreline and considering we were down to 10 men?
 

TheGreenLily

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No, it's the complete opposite. 10 minutes is useless. Holtby should have replaced Eriksen at half time because he was hopeless. And in answer to your other question, it was 4-4-1 with Eriksen on left
Eriksen was not hopeless, he was the victim of a complete bunch of imbeciles who couldn't pass for shit, the who first half was mess, despite the fact we started getting back into the game in the last 10-15 mins.
 

Locotoro

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The substitutions were strange in my opinion.

Dembele for Capoue aside, as this appeared to be enforced. Siggy should have come off at half time when we were still 11 men and a striker should have come on with Erikssen moving to the left.

The problem we had was that Ade was isolated up top and there was very little movement going beyond him for the flick or second ball.

But once Rose went off, Naughten was the right choice to come on. I was disappointed Sherwood left it so long to bring on his final sub when the energy levels started lagging.
 

Lufti

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Bentaleb is going to play 90 minutes for us every game for the rest of the season isn't he? :rolleyes:
 
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