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You realise we're having light hearted conversation don't you, stop being a fun sponge with your boring logic no one wants to read that. ?
You realise we're having light hearted conversation don't you, stop being a fun sponge with your boring logic no one wants to read that. ?
Today at the stadium it really effected the game. Kane’s offside was level again if you apply the 30 Cm margin of error yet they don’t so it was disallowed. We then didn’t know whether to celebrate the next two goals.
It seems to be ruining the experience it the stadium every week and it’s getting worse. Honestly, there won’t be any point going to games in the ground soon if this continues. Celebrating goals is the most fun part of games and they’re taking that away. I think I’m starting to wish we’d just go back to the ref being the one making mistakes and previously I was a massive advocate of VAR.
Is there a 30cm margin of error? Didnt know about this. If there is then soon 30cm will be 31cm then 32cm etc etc etc
A line has to be drawn somewhere and it was offside unfortunately as close as it was.
I agree though it is ruining the experience but it has worked for us too this season...
Not exactly.......the frame rate of the camera means that a player (Sterling was the one used as an example) running at pace could travel around 30cm between frames - in one frame he might be 15cm onside and the next 15cm offside, but which frame do you choose? On top of that, the speed that the leg travels when kicking a ball is even faster, and so it is incredibly difficult to tell the exact moment the ball has left the foot.........and to make matters worse, they are also estimating the location of body parts in 3 dimensions......all in, it's just a crap system that isn't accurate, yet all the media quote it as definative.The software that does the offside has a 30 cm margin of error because of the camera frame rate or something.
Not exactly.......the frame rate of the camera means that a player (Sterling was the one used as an example) running at pace could travel around 30cm between frames - in one frame he might be 15cm onside and the next 15cm offside, but which frame do you choose? On top of that, the speed that the leg travels when kicking a ball is even faster, and so it is incredibly difficult to tell the exact moment the ball has left the foot.........and to make matters worse, they are also estimating the location of body parts in 3 dimensions......all in, it's just a crap system that isn't accurate, yet all the media quote it as definative.
Whether Harry Kane was offside or not it made exactly no difference to a goal being scored. Brilliant goal both the pass from Winks and the way Kane passed it into the net. Kane being xxx centimetres offside had no bearing on the goal. Without VAR I m sure 99% of refs would have given that goal and they would have been right to do so.Ok, thanks for clearing that up!
Basically it shouldn’t be used in those tight calls and the benefit should be given to the attacker I reckon.
meanwhile they are unable to review the challenge leading to their free kick and goal. I get that they aren't going to review everything in the game but a free kick 25-30 yards out is a goal scoring chance. The event leading to it can turn a game. Not sure what you'd give if the decision was reversed, free kick the other way I suppose? in this instance it leads to a goal and results in a player being booked/suspended so if the player dives (and I think he does..) it's an important moment.Whether Harry Kane was offside or not it made exactly no difference to a goal being scored. Brilliant goal both the pass from Winks and the way Kane passed it into the net. Kane being xxx centimetres offside had no bearing on the goal. Without VAR I m sure 99% of refs would have given that goal and they would have been right to do so.
The fact that simulation, or cheating to us more mature folk, is a yellow card, and it was obvious after only one replay the VAR should have stepped in.meanwhile they are unable to review the challenge leading to their free kick and goal. I get that they aren't going to review everything in the game but a free kick 25-30 yards out is a goal scoring chance. The event leading to it can turn a game. Not sure what you'd give if the decision was reversed, free kick the other way I suppose? in this instance it leads to a goal and results in a player being booked/suspended so if the player dives (and I think he does..) it's an important moment.
Whether Harry Kane was offside or not it made exactly no difference to a goal being scored. Brilliant goal both the pass from Winks and the way Kane passed it into the net. Kane being xxx centimetres offside had no bearing on the goal. Without VAR I m sure 99% of refs would have given that goal and they would have been right to do so.
My main point is that it’s just ruining the fun of celebrating goals. They’re reviewing every one now and it’s making being at the game quite a bit less exciting.
I think this approach would certainly help. I still dont know why they dont use this i really dont get it - what are they trying to hide.
And how do you define a clear offside?VAR will be in place all this season. They cannot, unless all clubs agree, change the rules half way through a season as there will be many clubs who will make formal complaints.
For me, the point of VAR was to stop any controversy, however it is clearly causing much much more and goals are being disallowed over millimetres which may or may not be offside as the technology is not 100% accurate. Therefore next season they could make one very easy decision which is unless it is a clear offside then it stays with the on field decision.
The fact that every single goal is now checked for any infringement is surely taking away the very point of football.