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Anyone know about this Harrison/Yeovil incident?
Staggered he wasn't sacked
Anyone know about this Harrison/Yeovil incident?
Staggered he wasn't sacked
Staggered he wasn't sacked
Staggered he wasn't sacked
ABH if you or I.What happened?
ABH if you or I.
ABH if you or I.
Have to say best bit of information I ever gleamed from this forum. Was 1st squad white socks
Has the Development squad disappeared from OS? Few going on loan being updated ?
Have to say it’s funny when you look at 1st and 2nd year. How about 50% get talked about constantly and 50% Literally never get a single mention.
Winks and Kane didn’t really establish as 1st team regulars till 21. Edwards is still only 19. KWP And Onomah 20. I think their progression is in line. No idea how you’d be giving KWP 15 game would mean dropping trips/ Aurier for 7/8 games each. I agree KWP has problem if Trippier doesn’t leave next season. But if were him I’d take a season loan next season. He may never get another chance with a top 6 club be foolish to throw it away before 22.
Of course we are. Can't we avoid Chelsea for once in a semi, assuming we get there and at least let us get to a final.We're at home to Chelsea (or West Brom) in the Last 16 of the FA Youth Cup, if we beat Bournemouth.
I love this thread but the way it often dissolves into "player X had played Y times by the time he wa Z years old" and those variables shift and wobble in all sort of back assward ways to make a meaningless point is very dull and tiring. You guys can do better.
KWP is probably the first youth player under Poch's tenure that I've looked at and thought we need to really put our eggs in this basket and bleed him. I understand getting Aurier but Trippier as our #2 and first choice RB always had major red flags (even if Trippier's performance at Wembley vs. Madrid is one of my legit favorites of this season).
Winks and Kane didn’t really establish as 1st team regulars till 21. Edwards is still only 19. KWP And Onomah 20. I think their progression is in line. No idea how you’d be giving KWP 15 game would mean dropping trips/ Aurier for 7/8 games each. I agree KWP has problem if Trippier doesn’t leave next season. But if were him I’d take a season loan next season. He may never get another chance with a top 6 club be foolish to throw it away before 22.
Goes to show we don't just rate everyone
All those other players you've mentioned are significantly inexperienced, though thankfully CCV and Onomah have now been released to develop some sort of experience, every other club use loans as a method to gain experience, we did too with good results but all of a sudden it's not the right way forward. Not sure about that. WIthout any loan experience it appears their chances of getting chances are a lot less.
Ya, I was very happy to give this new Poch philosophy of training-with-the-first-team-is-better-than-real-football a chance, seeing as the guy is very good at his job and obviously loves to bring through the youth. But nobody else does it, there is no precedent for it, and literally every successful footballer has become so by playing competitive football.
Now, we have an exception to the rule in Winks (although it could be argued that he would be much further along in his developmentif he had played more). And we are starting to pile up players for whom this unique idea is most definitely not working.
FWIW I don't believe these players need to go on loan, I've said that plenty are good enough to go straight into the first team squad or get chance off the bench or in dead rubbers, or against weak opposition, like Winks and Bentaleb that is the standard we are producing. But there is clearly a fear or trust issues with just playing players straight from the academy whereas if they go on loan it is like buying them as they come with ready made experience. So far it seems like Poch's way isn't working and he has conceded defeat in Onomah and CCV I just hope it works for some others.
oteh starting for qpr today, getting released seems to be working out nicely for him.
I think time will tell on this one - I am not convinced that Poch has actually changed his views on loans and think that CCV and Onomah are just as likely to be sold this summer as come back to compete for a 1st team spot.So far it seems like Poch's way isn't working and he has conceded defeat in Onomah and CCV I just hope it works for some others.
oteh starting for qpr today, getting released seems to be working out nicely for him.
oteh starting for qpr today, getting released seems to be working out nicely for him.