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Primativ

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Today was an abject performance. Same as against City, we got absolutely battered. Embarrassing seeing the third best squad in the league reduced to such an amateur team. No belief, no system, no tactics.

If it wasn't for Gazza we would have been 5 -1 down at halftime.

How on earth anyone can still defend Poch is mind boggling. Levy needs to sack him now. We could be so much better with a different manager in charge.
 

Lighty64

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Brighton for me.

After the humiliation of Bayern, who are quality, I was expecting a massive reaction.

It was actually pathetic.

I still think the circumstances of what happened to Hugo messed that game up, and Brighton are not the same team that Houghton managed. They are definitely a more pressing and offensive team under their new manager. they also gave a young lad his chance and sometimes it pays off. I also think they have been very unlucky to not have more points on the board.

the weird thing about the Liverpool game is I honestly believe Ndombele for Winks, and Moura for Eriksen would have produced a better set up. had we still lost I most probably would have still been in the keep him. I even think a double sub at halftime with those 2, and brought Lo Celso on for Alli after 60 might of seen us get a result
 

Lighty64

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Can’t believe i’m saying this, but i’m actually worried that we will somehow manage to fluke a win against Everton next week as it would be like using a plaster on a gaping wound.

whatever the case, even if it meant keeping a manager I would never ever want Spurs to lose a match.
 

heelspurs

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Wow, some of you people. It's amazing the wave of folks jumping on Poch but not really having a handle on the situation. Get rid of your entitlement that has been borne of the the good work he has done. The second we didn't fill the gaping holes in this squad and get rid of the players that wanted out top 4 was off the cards - before the season even started. We did not get the painful rebuild we were told was going to happen and now this season will be difficult. How could your expectations be anything but that? The second half of 17-18 was not good and we let ManU pip us. Last season, the whole season and not just the miserable 2nd half, was crap long ball football with no structure. And now this year...

Some people have levied certain criticisms on the players for a few seasons but it's met with happy clappy bs instead of reflection ie 'No, X is world class derp derp derp'. But now that we do not have a functioning team we are seeing that many of our players are not good enough as they lack many of the basic footballing fundamentals.

Take Eriksen. I've defended him his whole time here for being a pussy. I recognized what he was but he was out only creative player and there is no reason to get hurt. But how long have DL/Poch allowed us to go with 1 player being our creative outlet? It is a ridiculous personnel decision. But I have always said that competent footballers can easily replace many of the 'derp derp derp world class' footballers we have and we see that in Ndombele and GLC. They are so much more dangerous merely because they can receive and pass the ball under pressure, basic MF qualities that are lacking in many of our players.

Poch has his faults but they ahve always been there and many have pointed them out, as you can expect, to much criticism from the happy clappy derp derp derp militia. You know how it goes, someone says Poch should start this person or do X, Y, or Z and someone chimes in "so you know more than Poch derp derp derp". Though it's now accepted that his subs are shit (not necessarily changing anything tactically) or very late but those that were first to notice had to suffer the happy clappers' BS. But now you all got your pitchforks and torches and are ready to storm the gates but are still missing the f*cking point. He is still the same manager he always was and with the same faults. It's the players and the personnel decisions. Poch faults are there but they always have been there.

Who else would get more from a group with 5 wantaways from the past year's lineup? Some scream play the other guys but he's got to keep the others sweet until they leave. They may be needed. And, and this is important, why throw a ragtag lineup of players expected to be important for us going forward until there is some semblence of order/teamwork. The man is not working with his expected team yet your expectations are the same. there is the disconnect.

I don't expect top 4 and didn't in the summer. We did not get the painful rebuild we needed. Players allowed to get to their last years without competition was a lesson supposedly learned but apparently was not. But yall need Poch's head to salve your entitled wounds. If he feels let down by the club and doesn't want to be here then fine. But if he wants to be here then there is nothing so far in this season that has made me change my view from the summer. And that view is we aren't good enough, the players are not good enough, and we are going to suffer this season. Losing at Anfield doesn't change that. Did any rational person expect anything different?
 

Sandros Shiny Head

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Wow, some of you people. It's amazing the wave of folks jumping on Poch but not really having a handle on the situation. Get rid of your entitlement that has been borne of the the good work he has done. The second we didn't fill the gaping holes in this squad and get rid of the players that wanted out top 4 was off the cards - before the season even started. We did not get the painful rebuild we were told was going to happen and now this season will be difficult. How could your expectations be anything but that? The second half of 17-18 was not good and we let ManU pip us. Last season, the whole season and not just the miserable 2nd half, was crap long ball football with no structure. And now this year...

Some people have levied certain criticisms on the players for a few seasons but it's met with happy clappy bs instead of reflection ie 'No, X is world class derp derp derp'. But now that we do not have a functioning team we are seeing that many of our players are not good enough as they lack many of the basic footballing fundamentals.

Take Eriksen. I've defended him his whole time here for being a pussy. I recognized what he was but he was out only creative player and there is no reason to get hurt. But how long have DL/Poch allowed us to go with 1 player being our creative outlet? It is a ridiculous personnel decision. But I have always said that competent footballers can easily replace many of the 'derp derp derp world class' footballers we have and we see that in Ndombele and GLC. They are so much more dangerous merely because they can receive and pass the ball under pressure, basic MF qualities that are lacking in many of our players.

Poch has his faults but they ahve always been there and many have pointed them out, as you can expect, to much criticism from the happy clappy derp derp derp militia. You know how it goes, someone says Poch should start this person or do X, Y, or Z and someone chimes in "so you know more than Poch derp derp derp". Though it's now accepted that his subs are shit (not necessarily changing anything tactically) or very late but those that were first to notice had to suffer the happy clappers' BS. But now you all got your pitchforks and torches and are ready to storm the gates but are still missing the f*cking point. He is still the same manager he always was and with the same faults. It's the players and the personnel decisions. Poch faults are there but they always have been there.

Who else would get more from a group with 5 wantaways from the past year's lineup? Some scream play the other guys but he's got to keep the others sweet until they leave. They may be needed. And, and this is important, why throw a ragtag lineup of players expected to be important for us going forward until there is some semblence of order/teamwork. The man is not working with his expected team yet your expectations are the same. there is the disconnect.

I don't expect top 4 and didn't in the summer. We did not get the painful rebuild we needed. Players allowed to get to their last years without competition was a lesson supposedly learned but apparently was not. But yall need Poch's head to salve your entitled wounds. If he feels let down by the club and doesn't want to be here then fine. But if he wants to be here then there is nothing so far in this season that has made me change my view from the summer. And that view is we aren't good enough, the players are not good enough, and we are going to suffer this season. Losing at Anfield doesn't change that. Did any rational person expect anything different?
Good grief
 

guiltyparty

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to give you a sense of how poor we were (don't be deceived by the push in the last ten minutes)

Our first and second shots on targets were separated by 86 minutes

[courtesy of football365]

and between the 25th and 31st minute, when they had 6 shots, four on target, our entire team made a total of one pass
 

glacierSpurs

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Anybody else who can't stand the sight of him in presser any more? The more shit he talks while trying to be arrogant, the more stupid he will look. ?‍♂️

Always talk about being brave, be a man. Why not he can start being brave and be a man for start and admit on his poor selection and justify his judgement of players instead of being so passive aggressive.
 

$hoguN

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I’m fed up of him not taking the blame.

Hopefully there will be a shed load of Poch our banners too to help force Levy’s hand
 

Archibald&Crooks

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I’m fed up of him not taking the blame.

Hopefully there will be a shed load of Poch our banners too to help force Levy’s hand
Don't hold your breath. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people who go to games aren't yet infected by SC's hive mind. The last time there were any 'out' banners it was two blokes with a Levy out banner outside the ground :D
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Ok I have heard it all now his excuse is that we scored too early???
Actually I heard a few people say that (and it's been said more than once on here) and it crossed my mind at the time as well. And by the way it isn't an 'excuse'........it's more of an observation and were it not for the lynch mob mentality, more people would be saying/agreeing it. But as it stands, everything he says is going to have the boot stuck in on it, we've reached the stage where pretty much most rationality gets stamped on now.
 
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Dr Benson

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Anybody else who can't stand the sight of him in presser any more? The more shit he talks while trying to be arrogant, the more stupid he will look. ?‍♂️

Always talk about being brave, be a man. Why not he can start being brave and be a man for start and admit on his poor selection and justify his judgement of players instead of being so passive aggressive.
Actually, I don't think he is arrogant. I really like the guy and think he's charming. Guess if I was a girl or homosexual I could fell in love with him.. That's the problem. I think he is a nice fella and a good representative for the club. But, unfortunately the results are no longer on his side.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Ok I have heard it all now his excuse is that we scored too early???
Next up will be complaints that we scored at all. "AMigo, we were controlling the game and si, hombre! The plan it was good. But then that gringo Harry Kane came up and scored, and since it for me is very hard to know what to do". This fear of goals ties in well with Lucas Moura not playing.
 
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ebzrascal

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Poch`s press conferences are depressing.. I really think with a different manager we could be a much better team...
He even refused to credit NDombele for his performance from the bench FFS
 
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