The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[stevenurse]

I don't think Poch deserve any blame for the final but I did think taking Winks off(but he just came off an injury) and then Dele(who was also very good last night)

However, I disagree with the highlighted part. Poch imo has been very poor this second half in the season(this was our worst finish to a season under ENIC) but his heroics of CL have been deservedly overlooked this negative performance

You thought Alli was good? Wrong thread I know... But really?

 

[carmeldevil]

Now I’m chopping onions.

 

[easley91]

Skimming through this thread just now and I think I'm going to step off SC for the summer. We have just played in our first ever European Cup semi final and the pure negativity and worry re Poch IMO is well over the top. Give the guy a day or two to get over last night for Christ sake. Poch said all along the chat about the next project would be after yesterday. Poch says what he does in the media to screw with them because he knows they'll twist it and link him with every other club anyway.

We haven't even had a full season in the new stadium and a summer with the extra revenue in place. How about waiting and seeing before lambasting the chairman who has overseen this five year project including new training ground and new stadium? Think a lot of our fans need some perspective.

 

[Lighty64]

What were we even doing for three weeks in training?

All the talk about breaking arrows on your shins and walking over hot coals and we serve up that shit?

Alli hasn’t played well in months. Poch plays him blindly. He’s undroppable, even Moura has to make way for him..

Sick of it

tell me 1 player in our squad that you can honestly say had a good season after being involved in the WC. to be honest the best 2 players in the country this season was Sterling and Hazard, and both of them had plenty of rotation at the start of the season. tell me another that did so without having any length on the sidelines

 

[Khilari]

Skimming through this thread just now and I think I'm going to step off SC for the summer. We have just played in our first ever European Cup semi final and the pure negativity and worry re Poch IMO is well over the top. Give the guy a day or two to get over last night for Christ sake. Poch said all along the chat about the next project would be after yesterday. Poch says what he does in the media to screw with them because he knows they'll twist it and link him with every other club anyway.

We haven't even had a full season in the new stadium and a summer with the extra revenue in place. How about waiting and seeing before lambasting the chairman who has overseen this five year project including new training ground and new stadium? Think a lot of our fans need some perspective.

Is it really necessary to bring perspective and some rational thoughts to this forum? I mean really?

 

[ohtottenham!]

I agree we needed freshening up, but none of us know exactly why it never happened, and the whingers have just blamed Levy, and refuse to believe ITK saying Poch had money to spend. anyone with a half decent memory will remember when Poch 1st joined us that he doesn't like working with a bloated squad.

there are too many people on here that play FM manager, or see what Liverpool, Man U, Man City and Chelsea do and think we can compete. those and Arsenal have been racking money in since the early 90's, or have had bigger stadiums and bigger history, more followers world wide or been bought as a play thing.

I tell you now there are 15 possibly 17 other premier league teams today that wished their club was owned by ENIC and run by Levy

I agree there are whingers, who are never satisfied, but that's not relevant to my post. It wasn't even to attribute blame in a specific direction, because we'll never know the true story.

I can even leave the RB situation aside, but the fact that the CM deficiency, which was as clear as day with an ominous dark cloud there for all to see, wasn't addressed by the club in some way which had to involve reinforcements, is something I simply don't understand. The health and fitness of both Dembele and Wanyama were known to the club for a while.

Absolutely no surprise that Sissoko broke down again yesterday. We may have been unlucky with Winks and Dier injuries, but even then, time to act in the January window considering how pivotal that area of the park is to the way we play.

As a result, Eriksen and Alli have had to play out of position and play more minutes than ideal, which in turn, impacts our attacking shape and threat.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

People seem to be more certain that Pochettino will stay, I'm not. For the first time since he arrived at Spurs, I'm genuinely wondering how much longer he will stay on.

 

[Lighty64]

Fair enough mate I don't think anything will change personally the club generates good money from finishing top four without ever being a credible threat, so in essence we are the new arsenal but instead they did win cups compared to our fuck all.

they were winning trophies on a regular basis before they built. the main thing that stopped them was Chelsea and Man C, becoming play things and then buying their better players at a time they moved into a new stadium which mistakes where made in the financing.

 

[shelfboy68]

they were winning trophies on a regular basis before they built. the main thing that stopped them was Chelsea and Man C, becoming play things and then buying their better players at a time they moved into a new stadium which mistakes where made in the financing.

They have still won three cup's in the last few years but my point is I really can't see anything at the club changing I just can't see it sorry.

 

[seppo]

Poch and Levy must and 99% is on the same page already, whether he's leaving or staying, even though i'm 90% sure he's staying - Planning for the summer transfer window starts well before (months) we actually go into the transfer window. It can't possibly be Levy that's just aimlessly chasing after all these players we're linked to, Ndombele, Lo Celso etc. It's on behalf of Pochettino. It must be.

 

[Hakkz]

The most important thing Poch must do for next season imo, is to get some identity back into the team/tactics. A couple of seasons ago we were a hard pressing, defensively solid team with proper threat on the wings. Right now I don't know what our style is. Our defense is weak as shit and our attack is mostly disjointed, relying mostly on individual performances.

 

[srups34]

Skimming through this thread just now and I think I'm going to step off SC for the summer. We have just played in our first ever European Cup semi final and the pure negativity and worry re Poch IMO is well over the top. Give the guy a day or two to get over last night for Christ sake. Poch said all along the chat about the next project would be after yesterday. Poch says what he does in the media to screw with them because he knows they'll twist it and link him with every other club anyway.

We haven't even had a full season in the new stadium and a summer with the extra revenue in place. How about waiting and seeing before lambasting the chairman who has overseen this five year project including new training ground and new stadium? Think a lot of our fans need some perspective.

I expect you to get banned for this sensible post, it doesn't belong in here

 

[Lighty64]

Regardless of injuries and etc.

11 points from 12 games is terrible and again the worst end to any manager in the PL under ENIC, we have enough quality to perform better than a championship squad yet we our form was similar to one

I'm sorry but as @Shadydan said we were running on empty for the last 3 months (just like his 1st season) because we where playing twice a week every week, and 11 players have been doing that for near on 2 years without having a proper break. everyone of our WC players have been out injured this season, most of our midfield have been out injured, and when they haven't been playing league or cup games they have been playing Internationals.

both our strongest finishes since Poch took over saw us go out of the CoC early and not go to far in the CL.

we need to take a hit on players we can't rely on to play 2/3's of a season, and we need to strengthen enough so that every player that plays those 2/3's can be used as rotation not to keep covering injury after injury

 

[easley91]

Is it really necessary to bring perspective and some rational thoughts to this forum? I mean really?

I expect you to get banned for this sensible post, it doesn't belong in here

I just think personally now is the time to reflect where we have come from to get to the biggest final. Let's not forget we finished the season 4th and Champions League runners up. A season which started with no pre season for NINE players, staying in Wembley until March, numerous injuries (genuinely can't remember a time before yesterday we had a fully fit squad to pick from?) and the major one.. ZERO SIGNINGS! We also got to the semis in the league cup as well. If you were told all that would happen, you would have said that person was crazy to even suggest it. But it happened.

I also actually listen to Poch's press conferences and interviews as well as watch them if possible. You cannot gauge what he means by reading quotes in printed press where the majority will twist every single word out of context. He said he would go "home" if we won. Of course they all took to mean he was leaving. When it could easily just have meant he would go home to celebrate with his family.

The media are going to stick the knife in all summer, those choosing to worry and believe it then so be it. I honestly believe he will stay and there is no way now the stadium is in place we go three windows without bringing anyone in. Poch has stated himself the squad needs an overhaul now. If you choose to listen to only some of his words and not all then go for it.

 

[THX2208]

I think its time for us all to take a break and recover from the rollercoaster season we've just had. Poch has only come off the back of a Champions League Final defeat but I think a new plan will be drawn up between Pochettino & Levy over the Summer but I think Poch, Levy & the fans all need a bit of R&R

 

[midoshairband]

The most important thing Poch must do for next season imo, is to get some identity back into the team/tactics. A couple of seasons ago we were a hard pressing, defensively solid team with proper threat on the wings. Right now I don't know what our style is. Our defense is weak as shit and our attack is mostly disjointed, relying mostly on individual performances.

agreed, we don’t seem to have an identity at the moment, certainly not the one we used to have. but think about the personnel that we’ve lost since that team, without replacing them at all/properly:

Walker - gone
Rose - injuries and loss of form, plus agitating for a move.
With both of them gone, our second choice/fill in for a couple of games full backs are now our first choice.

Dembele - gone
Dier - fuck knows whats happened there

Eriksen - appears heart/head not in it for a while
Alli - not sure whats gone wrong this season

we’ve had to change/become more pragmatic.

 

[Lighty64]

They have still won three cup's in the last few years but my point is I really can't see anything at the club changing I just can't see it sorry.

mate 2 of those seasons they won it, any team that had had their draws would of won it on 2 of those occasions. in 3 of those wins they only faced 6-8 teams in the PL in total, and majority of those where at home.

 

[mpickard2087]

The most important thing Poch must do for next season imo, is to get some identity back into the team/tactics. A couple of seasons ago we were a hard pressing, defensively solid team with proper threat on the wings. Right now I don't know what our style is. Our defense is weak as shit and our attack is mostly disjointed, relying mostly on individual performances.

Yep. I've been saying it for all this season, but when the next one comes around there are no excuses anymore - the absolute starting point is having ten outfield players each week who can work their bollocks off, press high and hard, and play with intensity. People focus on technical quality upgrades, but our best performances under Poch have almost always come on the back of putting in a mega shift at such intensity that the opposition just get blown away by it. The tempo and verve to our football follow on from that.

Poch likes to talk about being brave, well to me now that means making no one untouchable and if players aren't doing it then they're out. That's not just the easy targets, if the likes of a Son, Alli or even Kane cant or wont put in a shift and do the dirty work they used to do, which is important as the defensive effort starts at the front and impacts massively on what then happens in defence (which we've seen this season) then he's got to act. We've got to get back to much better standards, be more compact and playing as a tight unit where all pull their weight.

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

I think its time for us all to take a break and recover from the rollercoaster season we've just had. Poch has only come off the back of a Champions League Final defeat but I think a new plan will be drawn up between Pochettino & Levy over the Summer but I think Poch, Levy & the fans all need a bit of R&R View attachment 51153

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[THX2208]

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