The Formula 1 Thread

[Wick3d]

Merc are going to appeal. This season will never end.

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Mercedes have lodged their intention to appeal.

 

[yankspurs]

Nico has his say?

 

[bubble07]

So essentially the rules are whatever the race director decides on the day

Yep but don't tell Toto's barister. It's Sunday so double pay

 

[Wick3d]

What is the point of having a rulebook if everything is down to the race directors discretion? Quite bizarre really, be interesting to see what would happen if this eventually goes to CAS.

 

[Yiddo100]

Mercedes have lodged their intention to appeal.

Announcing an intention to appeal definitely has “preparing to submit a transfer bid” vibe to it

 

[bubble07]

 

[MotspurHotspur]

There have been many controversial calls from Race Control this year - and they all went Lewis Hamilton's way. Poetic justice that this final one didn't. Red Bull made the gutsy call to change tires and got their just rewards. That is what we should want to see: adventurism, risk-taking, seat-of-your-pants driving. This latest pathetic Mercedes protest shows precisely what has been wrong with Formula 1 all these years and the sense of entitlement emanating from every Toto Wolff-statement since the race end drops all pretense at their end of being in it for the sport of racing.

We have witnessed a sea-change. This was the first time ever an outsider got close to Lewis Hamilton. #44 had the much faster car, was backed by a multiple-championship winning team and had the whole Formula 1 establishment behind him. He should have had it in the bag long ago. And yet, in the end, he was beaten by a better racer. Not a better driver but a better racer.
Because this season more than ever it has been about racecraft. Something F1 had forgotten about after years of one-car dominance and overly cautious officiating.

Take a bow, Max Verstappen - never did a driver succeed when the odds were stacked so much against him. A World title win for the ages...

Race craft, from Max? ?????? Have a laugh will you.

 

[Yiddo100]

Yep but don't tell Toto's barister. It's s Sunday so double pay

All paid for week in Dubai, free f1 race and a nice pay day at the end of it, not to shabby

 

[bubble07]

All paid for week in Dubai, free f1 race and a nice pay day at the end of it, not to shabby

Not a bad gig

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

There have been many controversial calls from Race Control this year - and they all went Lewis Hamilton's way. Poetic justice that this final one didn't. Red Bull made the gutsy call to change tires and got their just rewards. That is what we should want to see: adventurism, risk-taking, seat-of-your-pants driving. This latest pathetic Mercedes protest shows precisely what has been wrong with Formula 1 all these years and the sense of entitlement emanating from every Toto Wolff-statement since the race end drops all pretense at their end of being in it for the sport of racing.

We have witnessed a sea-change. This was the first time ever an outsider got close to Lewis Hamilton. #44 had the much faster car, was backed by a multiple-championship winning team and had the whole Formula 1 establishment behind him. He should have had it in the bag long ago. And yet, in the end, he was beaten by a better racer. Not a better driver but a better racer.
Because this season more than ever it has been about racecraft. Something F1 had forgotten about after years of one-car dominance and overly cautious officiating.

Take a bow, Max Verstappen - never did a driver succeed when the odds were stacked so much against him. A World title win for the ages...

Welcome to SC, Karen Horner.

 

[Nice One Cyril]

Looks like Lewis was penalised 11 seconds, for the Latife crash... How fair is that?

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Looks like Lewis was penalised 11 seconds, for the Latife crash... How fair is that?

Really goes to show what a joke of a Sport it is, when something like that, which is out of your control, can cost you a world title & give your rival such an advantage ...

 

[MotspurHotspur]

Nico has his say?

Insightful as always

 

[Yid-ol]

Looks like Lewis was penalised 11 seconds, for the Latife crash... How fair is that?

Happens all the time with safty cars and red flags, I don't think anyone is arguing that isn't right as goes on all the time.

It's the changing of the rules during the race or rules becoming guidelines to be interpreted as they need it too that's the issue.

The rule is any car that is lapped to be let go, but unless they decide only ones who will interfere in the title race need let through (not caring about any midfield battles there) and calling the safty car in as he wants. Yet any other race you let the cars through one lap and then safty car in next lap. So by rules and going by previous incidents this is abnormal.

 

[Lineker11]

Today leaves a bad taste in the mouth, not sure I will watch again after today.

 

[Yid-ol]

If they change he rules for the last couple of races to make it 'Fair' and letting them race, why not apply the same rules over a full season to make it fairer?

 

[Tucker]

Today leaves a bad taste in the mouth, not sure I will watch again after today.

Yeah, it’s a really bad way to end such an exciting season and close run contest. It doesn’t feel like this was decided on talent racing or engineering. Feels like a proper fix up. Saying that, it’s not Verstappen’s fault and I feel it’s really unfair on him too. His first title will forever be tainted.

What a mess the people in charge of the sport have made of this. It’s going to make a lot of people who may have been tuning in for the first time today think twice about doing so in the future.

 

[Spursmatty87]

with some others used to love F1 and I have enjoyed the Max and Lewis battle this year but this is awful, I think I’m done watching.

 

[Wig]

I haven't been able to calm down, honestly so disgusted at this outcome. For all the drivers' efforts over a very long and competitive season, I think genuine fans of the sport just want to see a deserving winner at the end of it.

To then watch a final race completely dominated by Hamilton and cruising towards a comfortable victory, only to be robbed by a bizarre set of circumstances and decisions by the race director is a complete antithesis to having a deserving winner. It feels grotesquely unfair on Hamilton who was clearly the best driver in the final race.