- Jul 22, 2008
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We have attained critical mass, I do believe your periods are now in sync.
Never red.
We have attained critical mass, I do believe your periods are now in sync.
To be linked heavily with lots of players and end up with only one signed with our previous is incredibly frustrating.
Yes it's only 11 days etc., but we hear the same thing every bloody window, soon it'll be "We've a week until the first game" then next thing you know it's deadline day and we're still haggling and fannying about lacking the improvements we need. It's happened far too often..
I hope to God (or whatever) that this is the window we finally sort it out, but I fail to see how anyone can't understand why I'd feel frustrated at recent failings with our recent history of brinkmanship, big talk and little real follow through (primarily with the striker we all crave or should at the very least).
It's also incredibly shitty to then have your opinion spammed for the hell of it when you are a fan who wants more for the club and thinks some meaningful (and EARLY) business is more than well overdue at this stage.
How many times do we forgive the same fucking mistakes? Clinging to hope window after window grates a little after a while.
We obviously though do go for deals early in the window when we can and feel they are good value. There are numerous examples. This summer as well we have tried to show ambition and move quickly. Paulinho is done, but with Villa and the Croatian kids but haven't been able to get the deals done, it happens and we will see if we move quickly for alternatives.
Like it or not though, unless you are a team with money (and even they can wait till the last day to make purchases) the market just seems to dictate that a lot of business is done late in the window. Selling clubs often don't drop the prices till the last minute or even make players available until then (because they eventually need to take any reasonable funds to buy their own players), buying clubs wait because they don't have and endless pot of cash and want value. It always happens whether we like it or not.
The sooner the transfer window is closed before the season starts, the better in my opinion.
Let me explain my perspective in regard to the frustration Paolo is channeling.
1.) We've only signed 1 player which I guess is frustrating enough, but we also haven't sold any players yet as far as I'm aware. We have probably 8-10 players that need to be sold to clear up space for wages and provide some money for transfers but we haven't seen any of that yet.
2.) " it happens and we will see if we move quickly for alternatives." I think many people are saying "what alternatives?"
3.) Most importantly intuition. Does anyone legitimately believe that by the end of the transfer window, our team will be completed? Or will there still be one or more glaring holes in it? Because if, like last season, we leave our team with several obvious weak spots, we will certainly miss out on top 4 yet again. We need a team worthy of a title challenge - it is a striker, a wide forward, and a left back away from being ready for that (assuming we get quality players in all 3 positions). We can say almost certainly that our team will not be ready by the first match of the season, but will it be by the time the window closes? I have my doubts personally.
This transfer window feels too similar to past ones to make me feel optimistic that it will be successful.
There's no shake hands smiley so I'm just going to include this one to preserve probably the nicest way anyone's ever called my opinion worthless. *shakehandssmiley*You haven't been around long Deuce. But I've seen that you have a good sense of humor. I want you to stick around because you could be a good addition.
But in two posts in this thread you have used straw men arguments for American players (why Freddy Adu would even be mentioned here is beyond me)....it makes me suspect you're Sam's Army and not one of us. And it's okay if you're not one of us. We have members that support other clubs/institutions. We had Egyptian fans during the Mido/Ghaly years (and they had the best illegal feeds). We had Croatian fans during the Modric/Kranjcar/Charlie years. We've had a lot of new Americans over the past 12 months of Deuce/Methuselah.
But they only survive if they are like Teola65 (sp?) and show a bit of respect and discretion. And taking a pot shots at quite a number of our players when they weren't part of the argument to begin with is going to win you no points for Dempsey. In fact, that comment will actually counteract any good vibe my posts about Dempsey provided.
And I worked very hard to shed some light on him.
Even if I am wrong and you are a new Yid and will be one of us forever, you will still need to grow a thick skin over your obviously favorite player. The only players that don't get shit are retired. Even the great Ledley King got worse than Dempsey has gotten at times. And he was better than Bale, Berbatov and Modric put together.* Nature of the beast. Defend him by all means. But do it smartly or you will only do more harm than good.
And honestly, I really hope you stick around either way. Because I value humor more than anything and you've already shown that to be a strength.
Cheers
* I mean if they were literally put together Dr. Moreau style. That monster would be ugly and useless but would have a creepy obsession with squirrels.
Look at are rivals, Money bag City have signed a two players, Chelsea have signed 3 squad players, Arsenal have signed 1 youngster and Man UTD have lost their most successful manager ever, replaced him with a guy who has never won a trophy and signed a young right back.
In regards to sales, apparently Hudd fee has been agreed & we are waiting for an expected bid's for Parker. We can only sell players if someone places a bid.
Are we really doing that bad?
That, sir, is probably one of the funniest, friendliest sentences it has ever been my pleasure to read on this forum.There's no shake hands smiley so I'm just going to include this one to preserve probably the nicest way anyone's ever called my opinion worthless. *shakehandssmiley*
Welcome to purgatory.I've always admired Tottenham for their style and utter insanity for what passed for tactics in the Redknapp era, but having one of your own in the mix totally magnifies these problems and all of a sudden I don't enjoy it so much anymore! Totally roundabout way to articulate this strange feeling that I think is called "caring".
I am American. But I have this cool app that translates U.S. lingo into coherent arguments.
In my plea for tolerance on Paolo, I originally entered
"My diabetes is smarter than you bitches and imma gonna get my lark and run over you if you don't shuts up and leaves him be, y'all."
In my first Dempsey post, I merely type the following into the app.
"Dempsey yo! Full tilt!"
And it came out with that diatribe. I'll be honest, I don't know what at least 14 of the words in that post mean.
But it was the best 99 cents I ever spent.
There's no shake hands smiley so I'm just going to include this one to preserve probably the nicest way anyone's ever called my opinion worthless. *shakehandssmiley*
I've always admired Tottenham for their style and utter insanity for what passed for tactics in the Redknapp era, but having one of your own in the mix totally magnifies these problems and all of a sudden I don't enjoy it so much anymore! Totally roundabout way to articulate this strange feeling that I think is called "caring".
I am American. But I have this cool app that translates U.S. lingo into coherent arguments.
In my plea for tolerance on Paolo, I originally entered
"My diabetes is smarter than you bitches and imma gonna get my lark and run over you if you don't shuts up and leaves him be, y'all."
In my first Dempsey post, I merely type the following into the app.
"Dempsey yo! Full tilt!"
And it came out with that diatribe. I'll be honest, I don't know what at least 14 of the words in that post mean.
But it was the best 99 cents I ever spent.
Look at are rivals, Money bag City have signed a two players, Chelsea have signed 3 squad players, Arsenal have signed 1 youngster and Man UTD have lost their most successful manager ever, replaced him with a guy who has never won a trophy and signed a young right back.
In regards to sales, apparently Hudd fee has been agreed & we are waiting for an expected bid's for Parker. We can only sell players if someone places a bid.
Are we really doing that bad?
I know you have a penchant for a argument/fight when it comes to players you like/dislike. I'm not going to get dragged into it. And at this moment I'm going to put you on ignore for a day or so, just so I don't end up giving into the growing ill-feelings. I value you as a poster too much. But I won't forget that you thought you were arguing Jenas with an intellectual-inferior. That was a not your best move.
When you look at the amount Swansea and Southampton are chucking about and then compare the prize money from league position, ticket prices and ground capacity, I can't help wondering why there hasn't been any money to spend.
The one thing people always dismiss with Dempsey is that he is not a quitter. And the reason he pops up with goals at good times is due to this "never say die" attitude
That's a valuable thing for any club to have. But especially for us. I wasn't around for Burkinshaw, so we've always had a loser complex during my time. And I watched it year after year as we found ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
That being said, I think that the shift isn't Dempsey. I think it's partly Bale and the absolute faith that the rest of the team has that he will get it done. But mostly I think it's AVB. So if we sell him, we don't resort to old ways.
But if we keep him, it's a good quality to have.
As for technical ability.......he's a poor white kid from Texas. There is a difference in being a caravan park kid in Holland like VDV and being one in Texas like Dempsey. The fact that he could come from that background and make it at the highest level is one of the highest testaments to him as an athlete. Had he been born in a place where the sporting education in football was like most of the world, he would have had much better teaching and his technical ability would be different. But he didn't. And here's where the poverty thing comes into play. Texas is about American football, no doubt. But there is good football instruction in the state too. And he had a chance to join an elite academy in Dallas. But due to financial difficulties and the death of his sister that training got interrupted.
So for his haters, cut him some slack on the technical argument. I think 99% of the people on this board had access to better footballing education than he did. Yet he's the one living the dream.
And please don't think I am soft on him because we share a nationality. When it comes to football, I trade in on my very thin Dutch heritage and follow Holland. If somebody better comes along, I would sell him in an instant. If a shitty Dutch player came along with a peg leg and was blind, I'd probably want them more. But I have a fucking hell of a lot of respect for his story. It deserves respect.