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Tactical Predictions and Player Improvement

Tottenham_God

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How do you see our tactics changing or transforming next season after Contes first full pre season?

What do you expect to see improve, change or decrease in prevalence from a tactical perspective. Or, what would you change if you could inhabit Contes mind and take control of the reigns?

Whilst we are at it, can you see any specific tactics being able to enhance any particular player/s game and if so, why?
 

BoringOldFan

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If we sign an attacking midfielder and a striker, possibly the occasional 3-5-2?
 

Tucker

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I think the way we’ve been playing has been dictated by what he’s had available rather than how he wants to play.

Kane dropping deep and acting as the creator is symptomatic of our lack of creative midfielders since Eriksen left.

I expect that he’ll want to have the tactical flexibility to be able to play 352 at times and allow Kane to play up front with Son rather than deeper.
 

Japhet

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More suitable wingbacks who can put decent crosses in (Perisic already done), and hopefully a real aerial threat like Scamacca to get on the end of them. Tactically, a lot more rotation.
 

Tottenham_God

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I think the way we’ve been playing has been dictated by what he’s had available rather than how he wants to play.

Kane dropping deep and acting as the creator is symptomatic of our lack of creative midfielders since Eriksen left.

I expect that he’ll want to have the tactical flexibility to be able to play 352 at times and allow Kane to play up front with Son rather than deeper.
Do you see none of our current crop, say Gil even, as being able to perform that creative function?
 

Tucker

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Do you see none of our current crop, say Gil even, as being able to perform that creative function?
I’ve seen nothing of Gil that makes me think he’s that kind of player. He looks a great prospect, but he’s not going to do what the likes of Kane or Eriksen can.
 

Delboy75

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5 subs is huge. It’s probably biggest tactical shake up since the back pass law. Essentially we will play with 5 attacking players the x2 WB and 3 up front. So with these new laws you have the potential to rotate all 5.
 

BoringOldFan

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Do you see none of our current crop, say Gil even, as being able to perform that creative function?
When he joined I read that Kulusevski could play as a no. 10. Conte hasn’t tried him there yet iirc. He’s very one-footed though, and unless you are Modric-level brilliant, that will be a drawback in my book.
 

Timberwolf

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I don't think we'll see any drastic changes - Conte has his distinctive way of playing so I expect to see a refined version of that.

The main changes will be down to the personnel we bring in. As other have suggested, the addition of more CMs could see us play a 3-5-2 more often with an additional no.8 like Mckennie or a number 10 like Eriksen in there. I think this could see us use Kulusevski as a wingback more often.

I also think that the introduction of Perisic and (fingers crossed) a ball playing LCB will make our build up play from deep less predictable and reliant on Romero. I think this will really help us against both the shit teams that sit deep (more versatility in attack) and the good teams (much improved build-up play when under pressure).
 

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I will be interested to see if Conte intends to play more attacking WBs and have 3 in CM. For example, would he consider playing Kulusevski and Perisic as attacking WBs and have someone like Eriksen partnering as a 3rd CM?
 

Tottenham_God

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I will be interested to see if Conte intends to play more attacking WBs and have 3 in CM. For example, would he consider playing Kulusevski and Perisic as attacking WBs and have someone like Eriksen partnering as a 3rd CM?
Seems like a reasonable concept tactically and adds another string to our bow.

Any idea how often he did this at Inter?
 

adamsky

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5 subs is huge. It’s probably biggest tactical shake up since the back pass law. Essentially we will play with 5 attacking players the x2 WB and 3 up front. So with these new laws you have the potential to rotate all 5.
I am not convinced by the narrative that the new 5 subs rule will help the big clubs. I think it is just as helpful to the teams that come to park the bus. How many times do you see the likes of City & Liverpool get a late goal as the opposing teams tire. It takes a lot of physical and mental effort to defend for 90 + mins.

In the end I think this rule will lead to less goals. I don’t see why they introduced it as often matches are most entertaining when games get stretched late on.
 

Tottenham_God

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I am not convinced by the narrative that the new 5 subs rule will help the big clubs. I think it is just as helpful to the teams that come to park the bus. How many times do you see the likes of City & Liverpool get a late goal as the opposing teams tire. It takes a lot of physical and mental effort to defend for 90 + mins.

In the end I think this rule will lead to less goals. I don’t see why they introduced it as often matches are most entertaining when games get stretched late on.
Do you not see this potentially being equalised by fresher attacking players to compensate?
 

adamsky

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Do you not see this potentially being equalised by fresher attacking players to compensate?
Sure it can work both ways but all the talk in the media is about how the new rule will only help the big teams. I think the smaller teams that rely on well drilled organisation could benefit just as much if not more.
 

Tottenham_God

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I’ve seen nothing of Gil that makes me think he’s that kind of player. He looks a great prospect, but he’s not going to do what the likes of Kane or Eriksen can.
So that player would realistically come from outside of the club.

If we signed a top striker. Would you be happy to see Kane start to play as that sort of 10? I know it's odd contemplating taking the best striker alive away from goal, but he's that good he'd still likely get 15 goals and 10 assists from deep, in my opinion.
 

Tucker

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So that player would realistically come from outside of the club.

If we signed a top striker. Would you be happy to see Kane start to play as that sort of 10? I know it's odd contemplating taking the best striker alive away from goal, but he's that good he'd still likely get 15 goals and 10 assists from deep, in my opinion.
I’m not sure, I’m not a scout. But I know it’s not Gil.
 

BoringOldFan

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I am not convinced by the narrative that the new 5 subs rule will help the big clubs. I think it is just as helpful to the teams that come to park the bus. How many times do you see the likes of City & Liverpool get a late goal as the opposing teams tire. It takes a lot of physical and mental effort to defend for 90 + mins.

In the end I think this rule will lead to less goals. I don’t see why they introduced it as often matches are most entertaining when games get stretched late on.
I think it will definitely help clubs with big squads. At the end of the Norwich game, having used three subs, all Conte had left on the bench were two senior squad players, Gollini and Rodon. And Alasdair Gold reported that Rodon became sick later.

The five subs rule gives managers the opportunity to change half the outfield players in a game. And also - to keep it on topic - the formation and tactics. Once you factor in injuries and suspensions, it will clearly favour ‘big squad‘ clubs.

We need to join this club ?
 

adamsky

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I think it will definitely help clubs with big squads. At the end of the Norwich game, having used three subs, all Conte had left on the bench were two senior squad players, Gollini and Rodon. And Alasdair Gold reported that Rodon became sick later.

The five subs rule gives managers the opportunity to change half the outfield players in a game. And also - to keep it on topic - the formation and tactics. Once you factor in injuries and suspensions, it will clearly favour ‘big squad‘ clubs.

We need to join this club ?
Agree, at the moment we are arguably in the worst position as we aren’t a park the bus team or possess the squad that City, Liverpool & Chelsea have. So we have to try and catch up with them.
 
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